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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

1096.0. "Renting a Trailer" by DECXPS::LCOBURN () Fri Oct 13 1989 08:26

    
    I have recently bought a trailer, and already have had several
    people ask to rent it for shows, etc. I am interested in it as
    it seems I could pick up some spare cash, but I am wondering
    if anyone knows about any legal or insurance requirements
    involved?? I do not want to get sued should anything go wrong...
    is there anyone out there who has done this before who could
    offer a bit of advice? I am not interested in doing it if the
    costs are outrageous, but I do want to be protected...Thanks!
    
    Linda
    
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1096.1FRAGLE::PELUSOI'd rather be ridingFri Oct 13 1989 09:472
    I'd rather do the trailering myself and charge accordingly.
    I think the going rate is $1.00/mile rount trip.
1096.2SKELTN::FOXHow do YOU spell relief? VACATION!Fri Oct 13 1989 12:4810
Given what damage a horse could potentially do to a trailer, I would probably 
never want to rent mine out. I agree with .1 about doing the trailering myself, 
but even then, it means your time, effort, etc.

Also, I think that $1.00/mile round trip is a generally a loaded mile (ie. 
2 horse trailer, 2 horses traveling.)

Good luck,

Linda
1096.3Your risk.SMAUG::GUNNMAILbus ConductorFri Oct 13 1989 13:1018
    Re .0
    
    To be squeaky clean legally and be covered by liability insurance,
    you'll find that it's not worth your while to trailer other folks
    horses around. If you are already in the horse business, run a boarding
    stable, etc:, the legal requirements are less since the trailering is
    an adjunct to your other horse business. I believe the state public
    utilties commission licenses truckers and if you go across state lines
    the Feds get involved as well. Just take a look at all the state
    stickers on the cab of a tractor trailer to see what I mean. 
    
    Your private auto insurance does not cover you for renting out your rig
    for a fee. Commercial insurance is more expensive.
    
    I know several people who do casual trucking without bothering with any
    of this. In an accident, they may discover they have no insurance cover
    and are in trouble with the law. It's your choice.
    
1096.4CSC32::M_HOEPNERRemember to drain the swamp...Fri Oct 13 1989 14:2731
    
    There is no way on this earth I would "rent" out my trailer to anyone
    ever again.  I will haul friends horses (people and horses that I
    trust).  (I do have 2 people I would let use my trailer at any time.)
    
    Every bit of damage I've had to my trailer were due to someone 
    or someone's horse being stupid.  
    
    For example: Horse damage --  all the padding
    being ripped out of one side of the trailer by a crazy horse, the back
    door almost being kicked off the hinges, the chest piece being made
    into a "V" by a struggling horse, trailer ties broken, dents in the
    roof, tie rings pulled half off the trailer, teeth marks on the fenders
    from horses tied to the trailer, running lights and tail lights
    destroyed by the horse who was tied to the trailer (or when fighting
    about loading
    
    People damage:  wiring ripped out by someone driving off with trailer
    unhooked and the wiring not being unhooked, dolly in front bent,
    broken, wheel missing by someone trying to drive off with it down,
    dents in the front when someone jackknifed backing up, fenders dented
    by someone not turning correctly,...
    
    Since trailers don't have motors, you can plan on having your trailer a
    very long time if you take care of it.  There are a lot of 20 year old
    and older trailers on the road.  If you figure out the cost per year,
    it tends to not make sense to risk having someone else ruin YOUR
    trailer.
    
    Mary Jo long_winded_because_she's_not_very_trainable Hoepner
    
1096.5HMMMM.....DECXPS::LCOBURNFri Oct 13 1989 15:2011
    Hmmm...some good points to consider..I appreciate the input! I
    was referring towing it myself, however, not just letting them
    take the trailer off by themselves hooked to up to their own
    trucks. I had not given thought to the possiblity of difficult
    loaders, both my horse are real good about it and it is certainly
    something to think about, considering the cost of the trailer I
    would be awfully upset if it got damaged by ill-trained horses/people!
    Thanks again, all!
    
    Linda
    
1096.6really think about it...DNEAST::BUTTERMAN_HOMon Oct 16 1989 10:5325
    
    re.5  no question that horses that don't load could be a problem,
    	  but don't forget that everyones horses probably don't ride
    	  as well as yours either!  
    
    	  From bad (one time) personal experience I will never, ever
    	  haul someone elses horse (or pony - and if you think that
    	  they can't do incredible damage to a thoroughbred size trailer
    	  give me a call and I'll tell share my "MOST HORRIBLE TRUCKING
    	  EXPERIENCE"....
    
    	  The exception (there are always a few - and I shouldn't say
    	  'never') is I would haul any horse that I previously owned
    	  and trained - and have two close friends, who have horses I
    	  know to be problem free (under normal circumstances)......
    
    	  Trailers can/should last a good long time, if they're tended
    	  to, and not abused.  My position on this will help me insure
    	  that with my own, and if anything happens to it, I have no
    	  one but myself to blame.........
    
    	  just my thoughts - and suggestion to keep talking to folks!
    
    	good luck - holly
    
1096.7LUDWIG::ROCKMon Oct 16 1989 16:5329
    Well here is my input....
    
    I agree with not getting into trailering other folks horses. I did
    ask my agent about the coverage and he said that when you get into
    any renting agreement, boarding, etc. when you are getting MONEY
    for your time and service you are then liable for that animal or
    people that are with you.
    
    You would then need to get propper insurance.
    
    Then he said if you board a horse or two and make sure that your
    boarders are good friends or that you trailer someones horse or
    horses...he said that if they are friends and something should happen
    you can claim them as if it was your horse. But watch out those
    friends quickly change and they want more and will sue you and then
    the insurance will not cover.
    
    I do not trailer other folks horses...only mine and a few friends
    horses and then i only have them pay for the gas...this way I am
    not making money so it is harder for them to try to sue me if something
    did happen.
    
    I have also run into the problem of friends saying they trailer
    great and then they turn out to be a scrambler and teasr apart the
    inside of the trailer.
    
    well what ever you do good luck...
    
    terry