| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
|---|
| 1038.1 | Possibly Potomic | BSS::LEECH | Pat Leech CX01/02 DTN 522-6044 | Mon Aug 28 1989 15:22 | 7 |
|
Has the vet considered Potomic Horse Fever? Have any/all of the
horses been vacinnated for Potomic?
Pat
|
| 1038.2 | virus | AKOV13::LESAGE | | Mon Aug 28 1989 15:32 | 7 |
| Yes this has happened to a friends horse in Littleton, Ma.. The horse
was sent to Rochester N.H., vet clinic. The horse was treated with
penicillin and seems ok now, but has lost weight. Swelling was in in
all four legs up the the hock and knees, temp. was high. I do not know
if the vets know what was the cause of the problem. This horse had an
intestinal bacteria about six months ago. But I do not know if this
had anything to do with this other problem.
|
| 1038.3 | It could be your shavings... | TYCOBB::RUSSAU | | Fri Sep 01 1989 17:12 | 23 |
|
I have horses in Millis, MA and one of ours came down with similar
symptoms. She had a temperature and heat in all four legs along
with severe swelling (enough to make walking difficult). She had
had her Potomac Horse Fever vaccine already, but we had her blood
tested anyway. We had only bought her about a month before from
a hunting barn in NY. The tests came back negative and we treated
her with antibiotics. Also, we had to wash her legs twice a day
and put derma cleanse on them as they had broken out into pussy
sores. The vet said that she had had a severe allergic reaction
and it had manifested itself in the swelling and skin ruptures on
her legs. We changed her shavings immediately after her reaction
as we had just received a new load of CANADIAN shavings. This helped
a lot. After hearing similar stories from several other barns, I'm
sure the allergy was shavings related. Many barns in the New England
area will not buy CANADIAN shavings now because of the caustic effect
on the horses' legs. Our shavings come from Connecticut now.
If anyone else has had this problem, consider changing your shavings.
|
| 1038.4 | What kind of trees do they use? | SPACEY::CSILVA | I finally got a PONY of my OWNY | Tue Sep 05 1989 15:43 | 2 |
| Do you know *what* it is that is in the Canadian shavings that would
cause this problem?
|
| 1038.5 | Could it be Oak? | WILKIE::PRESTIDGE | | Fri Sep 15 1989 10:38 | 15 |
| Yes, please, someone out there with a chemistry background, please
tell us what could be in the shavings that causes this....
I have read and heard from others that oak shavings are very bad
to use because the tannic(sp?) acid in the wood causes founder....
Could the symptoms these people experienced be early causes of founder
(i.e., swelling in the legs --> little or no blood/oxygen flow to hoof--->
dropping of coffin bone --> founder) ??
Does anyone out there know if other types of wood should be avoided?
Right now, I'm using a pine/hemlock combination (mostly pine) with
no ill effects....
-Sue
|
| 1038.6 | WALNUT TOO | LAUREL::REMILLARD | | Fri Sep 15 1989 11:46 | 5 |
|
Walnut is also very bad... I forget if it causes founder or
if the horses like the taste and colic...
|
| 1038.7 | walnut and founder | BSS::LEECH | Pat Leech CX01/02 DTN 522-6044 | Fri Sep 15 1989 15:30 | 6 |
|
Walnut causes founder. It has something to do with a tannin in the
wood. Cherry is also very bad as it can/does cause founder as well.
Pat
|
| 1038.8 | Usually Cedar | CGOO01::LMILLER | Now try it once more ...... | Sat Sep 16 1989 16:52 | 7 |
| It is usually cedar shavings that causes that reaction (swelling)
not any other, unless the horse insisting on eating the shavings
(I realise that some can/does get picked up in the day to day munch)
most other woods are harmless. We bed on shavings (lotsa trees
near by), and it is a common occurance with raw cedar shavings.
Also we use bark mulch around our shrubs, and if it is cedar it
can and does kill plants.
|
| 1038.9 | Oak,Cherry,Cedar?? | PTOMV6::PETH | My kids are horses | Mon Sep 18 1989 16:06 | 10 |
| This subject of wood types is interesting, I have been using
mixed wood shavings with oak, cherry, and cedar with no ill
effects for 7 years. I only avoid black walnut as it has been
proven to kill horses. A write-up in Eqqus a while back referenced
a study which found 5% in the bedding will make them sick and 20%
is enough to kill. Maybe the other woods only affect horses with
allergys to them?
All the shavings I use are kiln dried not green.
Sandy
|
| 1038.10 | More experience with oak | DECWET::DADDAMIO | Hopelessly Optimistic | Mon Sep 18 1989 17:27 | 6 |
| At one time we had a problem getting pine sawdust and got a load of oak
since it was available. We didn't have any problems with the oak sawdust
although it was a lot finer than the pine and much dustier when it dried
out.
Jan
|
| 1038.11 | Mixed with no problems either | MED::D_SMITH | | Tue Sep 19 1989 08:49 | 0
|