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Title:Equine Notes Conference
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Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
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1020.0. "Help with Hooves, Farriers and Vets" by VMSSPT::PAANANEN () Tue Aug 01 1989 16:43

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Orignal Note by       help with hooves, farriers, and vets 
VIA::SNOW                                            40 lines   1-AUG-1989 14:48
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    hi dressage friends--
    
    i was a summer hire last year and luckily here i am again (until
    september).  Last summer i was in the process of buying my first horse
    and so now i've had him almost a year.  i need some advise on
    farrier/vet stuff.  here's the situation:
    
    higgins developed sheared heels (due to shoeing???) and thrush got up
    the crack and killed a lot of one bulb of the heel.  in feb. my vet dug
    out the dead tissue and i was involved in soaking and re-wrapping twice
    a day for a few months (stall rest).  now (aug 1) higgins' heel is
    well-healed and he is almost (not quite) sound.  however, now the crack
    is returning -- the sheared heels were fixed but the cause remains.  i
    have recently stopped using the farrier and am hoping to find a good
    one to fix this problem.  two questions:  
    
    1.  do any of you have experience in this sort of thing?  
    
    2.  i am open to suggestions and hope that you will give me your
    opinions on the following vets and farriers:
    
    		dave clancy
    		garth bodkin
    		toby tyler
    		randy kirschner
    		mike mooney
    		gretchen gordon
    
    (all farriers above)
    
    vets:  	brad barnes
    		sally mccleary
    		
    
    thanks for anything you can tell me
    
    janet
    
    ps i could use some optimism -- please water down horror stories so i
    don't fly into a panic...thanks!
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Original Note by       help with hooves, farriers, and vets 
DELNI::KEIRAN                                        10 lines   1-AUG-1989 15:13
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    As far as the blacksmiths go, I've used Garth Bodkin for years, though
    I don't know if he's taking on new customers.  Mike Mooney and Randy
    Kershner both apprenticed with Garth.  A few of my friends use Randy
    and are thrilled with his work, he spends a lot of time on each horse
    making sure everything is right.  I also use Sally McCreery as a vet
    on my riding horses and have been very happy with her.  Have you 
    considered taking the horse to Rochester if the situation is really
    bad?  Something like that may save you lots of $$ in the long run.
    
    Good Luck
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Original Note by      help with hooves, farriers, and vets 
VIA::SNOW                                             8 lines   1-AUG-1989 15:33
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    i'm glad to hear you like sally.  thanks for the rest of the info. 
    actually, the situation is much better than even a month or 2 ago.  as
    i said higgins is almost sound and i hope that solving the shoe trouble
    and eliminating whatever is causing the shearing will make him
    completely sound.  hopefully, this next shoeing will be a good first
    step.
    
    janet.
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1020.1GARTHDLNVAX::OWENWed Aug 02 1989 11:3611
    
    Garth Bodkin is a super horse shoer. He does our barn, including
    my mare who I have owned for two years. He shoes for a lot of
    the show barns (hunter/jumpers, dressage and combined training)
    in Northern MA and Southern NH. We think he's the best in the area
    for shoeing a horse to allow for good movement. My mare has very
    dry hoofs and is hard to shoe. Garth has steadily improved this.
    However, he is expensive and busy.
    
    Randy K. apprenticed with Garth until he started his own business
    last year. He is a good shoer.
1020.2Try Gretchen Gorden!DELNI::CSILVAI finally got a PONY of my OWNYWed Aug 02 1989 12:1826
    I've used Gretchen Gorden now for almost 2 years.  She is very good in
    the sense that she dosen't like to do lots of un-necessary work on the
    animal.  Meaning that the preference is to keep the hooves as close to
    their natural state.
    
    One of my horses has a bad back and over worked legs.  (She was
    supposedly used as a cow pony in Colorado and her legs look it!)
    Gretchen could sense that right away and we've never had a battle
    while working on her feet.  With other farriers I've tried "Jabse"
    (who is usually a sweetheart) would bite and fuss and just be a general
    BIG pain for everyone.  
    
    To sum it up: Gretchen always places the foot back on the ground
    whereas others would just let it drop!  She is always patient and
    really loves the animals.  She isn't ever in a rush and is always on
    time (keeps ALL her appointments).  Nice to find someone who enjoys 
    there work.
    
    She travels from Weare, NH to Harvard, MA and it costs me $20 per
    horse for a trim, inspection, and advice.  She never minds answering
    questions or talking "shop".
    
    If you call her tell her I said "hi".  Feel free to contact me via
    Email or by phone.  I *love* talking about the kids!
    
    Cheryl   DELNI::CSILVA   dtn: 226-5633
1020.4ANOTHER SATISFIED "GARTH" CUSTOMERCASPRO::MCNUTT_KFri Aug 04 1989 15:5921
    I also use Garth and have since around 1973.  I was one of his first
    customers!  He does a very good job with horses that need corrective
    shoeing.  I would strongly reccommend him.  He is expensive though,
    but in my eyes yoour horse's feet are worth any price because without
    them your horse is worth nothing.
    
    As far as Toby Tyler goes, I would STRONGLY NOT RECCOMMEND HIM!
    I stabled my horse at their farm over the winter (BIG MISTAKE) and
    he did not handle the horse kindly well shoeing them. He also trimmed
    one the boarder's horse's feet too short and he was lame for a week.
    I personally have not heard anything good about him as a blacksmith
    or a barn manager!!
    
    Couple of other names for vets are Dr. Gill and Dr. Smiley.  They
    are both extermly qualified and wonderful people to have work around
    your animals.  Dr. Gill is very good with any kind deep wounds that
    need stitches.  He fixed up my pony once that need 60 stitches in
    is rear flank area and there was NO SCAR AFTERWARDS!!!!  
    
    Just my three-cents worth (inflation these days, you don't get much
    anymore for two-cents!)... KERRY
1020.5DR GILLASABET::NICKERSONMon Aug 07 1989 10:463
    I too would recommend Dr. Gill...have used him for years and he
    is really good with the horses.
    
1020.6how about Dave Belt, Dr. Mike Lennon?SKELTN::FOXHow do YOU spell relief? VACATION!Mon Aug 07 1989 14:288
    I would recommmend Garth Bodkin and have had him for about 14 years off
    and on. Dave Belt is also a very good blacksmith.
    
    Another mention for a vet is Dr. Mike Lennon in Westford, MA. I can't
    say enough good about him!
    
    Good luck, Linda
    
1020.7Dave Belt from WinchendonWMOIS::J_BENNETTconstants aren&#039;t; variables won&#039;tTue Aug 08 1989 10:104
	I have Dave Belt shoe my horse - his work has been superior to any other
blacksmith that has shod Jazz.  He is one of the more pricey farriers, but well
worth it - especially if your horse has difficultly keeping shoes on (like 
mine.
1020.8GRETCHEN GORDONIAMOK::GROUTMon Aug 13 1990 18:075
    I'd suggest Gretchen Gordon.  Her love for the animal can really be
    seen.  She is very patient, doesn't rush, keeps her appointments, 
    and really works to solve any problems which might come up.  She's
    truly dedicated.  She's out if Weare, N.H. - Fieldstone Farm.
                               
1020.9another vote for gretchen...RAB::SNOWThu Aug 16 1990 15:018
i also recommend gretchen gordon very highly.  she has been nothing but terrific
with higgins.  i began using her about a year ago when higgins was lame and 
he has been sound since she started shoeing him.  she is very patient with
horse and owner!  she'll answer any questions you have no matter how silly
you think you sound she takes your concerns seriously.  can't say enough about
her.

janet.
1020.10exABACUS::MATTHEWSsweet shroud of desperationWed Sep 26 1990 15:149
    anyone have some numbers for vet supplies??
    
    I need to find out how much adquan is running.
    
    
    
    
    		Wendy o'
    
1020.11VMSSPT::PAANANENWed Sep 26 1990 15:217
     <<< Note 1020.10 by ABACUS::MATTHEWS "sweet shroud of desperation" >>>
                                    -< ex >-

>    anyone have some numbers for vet supplies??
    
     See note 583 on Mail Order Horse Supplies.

1020.12i knew i saw something around here like that!ABACUS::MATTHEWSsweet shroud of desperationWed Sep 26 1990 17:495
    thank-you!!!!!!!!
    
    
    	wendy o'
    
1020.13Farrier woesPOWDML::MANDILEwith an eTue Apr 13 1993 15:0227
    
    I call for an appointment midweek.  No return call.  I call
    Saturday and leave another message, no return call.  Tues
    night I now have a horse with no shoe, and actually get the
    farrier on the phone.  He says he will come the next morning,
    (no apology for not calling me back).  He doesn't.  Nor does
    he come Thurs morning.  Doesn't return my call. 
    Stalls are a mess as they were in waiting for the farrier.
    I turn them out Friday, and guess who shows up but can't
    catch the horses?
    I'm now po'ed and find a replacement farrier, but he can't
    come til Friday.  Now I have 2 horses missing shoes, and, no return
    call, but Thurs morning the old farrier shows up, and can shoe as the
    horses were in due to weather.  Old farrier brings along someone to
    help, who shoes my QH wrong!  I call and actually get the farrier,
    who mumbles something about it being dark in the barn, and they
    couldn't find the light....and that he would be by tomorrow to fix
    the shoeing job.
    No big surprise, he didn't show up.  He can't say he did, as I was
    there, waiting for him.  He can wait forever for payment...  
    
    I had canceled the new farrier, but have talked and met with him.
    
    As soon as they get a good clientele going, those of us with 1-2
    horses get the shaft......)-8
    
    L-
1020.14I can sympathize! :-)CSLALL::LCOBURNPlan B FarmTue Apr 13 1993 15:3919
    I ran into that when I first brought my mare home, I went through
    several farriers who would not return calls, not show up, and when
    they did, do a lousy job. Then I got lucky and happened upon the
    farrier I use now, who is extremely reliable, flexible enough to
    do weekends and evenings, and does an excellent job. And I only
    had one horse when I found him. Now that I have two, he even drops
    the price for having more than one horse done. Did run into a bit
    of hassle with my neighbors, though, who used him a few times, didnt
    pay him, and he told them he would not do them anymore until the back
    bills were paid. They found a new fella, who offered them a deal for
    lower rates if they got me to go in with them (he'd then be doing 4
    horses at one stop, my two and their two) when he spotted my two
    in the paddock near the road. I refused, telling them that I was very
    happy with the farrier I had and was not interested, they were a 
    bit ticked off about it, but they got over it. :-)
    
    Good luck with the new guy! God Bless the farriers out there who
    *do* respect backyard owners! :-)
    
1020.15We've been there too!DECWET::JDADDAMIOWhen in doubt, cop out!Tue Apr 13 1993 18:0421
    Me too! We went through that some years ago in New Hampshire even
    though we had 5 horses! The guy would tell us he'd be there such and
    such a day and time. Never showed up. Calls weren't returned etc.
    
    Finally found a guy who ALWAYS showed up. Well, once he didn't show up
    but he had a DARN good reason(his truck broke down) and he called to
    apologize and reschedule. Name's John Blombach and he lived in the
    Hudson MA area. I think he's bought a new house since we left NH so I
    don't have his phone number.
    
    When we moved out here, we asked around among vets and horse folk.
    Found a great farrier(Rick Heydahl) who was trained by a guy that our NH
    farrier(Blombach) knew from international shoeing competitions. And he 
    shows up too! We've been using him for nearly 5 years and don't plan to 
    switch. When Ben(my gelding) broke his coffin bone the other year, Rick
    had to shoe him while the vet was there. They hadn't met before but
    by the time Rick was done shoeing to the vet's prescription, the vet
    asked Rick for his business card! Several times we've called him to reset 
    thrown shoes and he's shown up that afternoon. 
    
    John