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977.1 | late | CSC32::M_HOEPNER | Sometimes the dragon wins... | Mon Jun 19 1989 16:07 | 12 |
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I usually wait until my young horses are 3 before starting them under
saddle. And if I do start them as 3 year olds, I don't use them much
at all. In many instances I have waited until they are 4. (I work
mostly with Arabs and Arabian crosses and use them for anything from
western classes to jumping to Park.) I wait because I messed up a
few in my early years by working them too much too soon (massive
leg problems that could and should have been avoided).
However, I do lots of ground work before then and may have driven them
as 2 or 3 year olds. Then when I do start riding them, they are very
educated and balanced.
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977.2 | 2 is good for the basics | FENNEL::HEWSON | | Mon Jun 19 1989 18:27 | 26 |
| I agree that you can cause a lot of problems but expecting too much
of a young horse, but I also think that you should get them used
to the basics early. I think that 2 is the right age to start them
with lounging, saddle and bridle, but never much at any one time.
In other words, work with them no more than 15-20 minutes at a time.
The lounging should only be to get them used to some voice commands
and later moving with the saddle and bridle on. Don't lounge a
young horse to condition them as going around in circles can really
hurt their legs.
At 2 years, they are still pretty awkward but they can get used
to discipline. I am currently training a 2 yr old TB/Cleveland
Bay colt that is over 16.1 hands. If I wait another year or two
to teach him about the bridle, I am afraid that I could never reach
to get it on. He also has a tendency to ram his weight around since
he has not had much discipline yet. Again I do not want to wait
until he is bigger. At the current time I am just doing ground
work with reining. I am not sure when I will get on for the first
time - probably sometime this summer.
When he is 3, I will expect a little more, but nothing intense.
Those are my theories, but they have worked for me.
Diana
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977.3 | more views. | KERNEL::CHEWTER | | Tue Jun 20 1989 07:09 | 18 |
| It depends really what sort of horse you have, how willing it is
etc. Most people (if they have large horses) tend to leave them
until they are 4-5 years old as, it is thought larger horses
need more time to develope etc..
I have always started my horses of at 3+ years. For backing
that is, as I am quite light and I have always had big horses, and
this does make a difference.
For lunging etc I think this is very important, becuase it doesn't
matter how young you start teaching manners and respect, as you
will have a much easier time when preparing for backing.
Good luck
Jayne
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977.4 | A phyiscal check | PTOMV4::PETH | My kids are horses | Tue Jun 20 1989 10:38 | 11 |
| I was always told you wait for the knees to close. On a baby the
knees feel kind of spongy as the joints are still forming. My vet
says when the knee joint has less than 1/2 inch of soft area (you
can actually feel it with your fingers) the horse can be started
lightly under saddle. This will vary with the breed and the individual
horse, but I have never had a problem using this method. On the
animals I have worked with, this generally works out to around 3
years old for QH and Appys.
Sandy
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977.5 | Personality counts for alot | WMOIS::PORTER | | Wed Jun 21 1989 07:34 | 16 |
| No one has mentioned maturity and I have always found this to be
the final determining factor. A horse which has not matured in
attitude as well as physically should not be started at as young
an age. My belief is that if the ground work is complete and the
horse is worked with from the time of birth starting to ride in
the fall of the third year or spring of the fourth is best. It
gives the horse a chance to grow and mature yet not run wild and
untrained. It forces us to work more on basics that many times
get overlooked if you begin to ride too early.
I guess each horse is an individual and must be looked at as such.
Isn't it odd how similar this is to children and the determination
as to whether they should begin school at a predetermined age.
Karen
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977.6 | | DYO780::AXTELL | Dragon Lady | Wed Jun 21 1989 13:57 | 15 |
| I break the TB's in the late spring of their 2nd year - after xrays,
of course. They learn basic manners walk, trot, canter and go a
on a few east trail rides. Then they get the summer off and we
start serious training in fall.
The warmbloods are mature later, so they don't get broken until
the 3rd year.
FWIW- Lippizans get ridden about the same time as warmbloods -
even the Spanish riding school rides them in the 4th year. They
don't get to do the upper level and air's above the ground until
they're 7.
-maureen
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977.7 | A few more thoughts | CLOVE::HEWSON | | Thu Jun 22 1989 15:07 | 29 |
| Some further thoughts - I think that conformation plays a big role
in how long a horse will last in soundness - more than whether or
not they were ridden lightly when they were 2 or 3.
I had a TB/Tennessee Walker gelding once who I bought when he was
3 and a half. In the next year and a half, I showed him hunter
and open jumper plus spent a season of fox hunting in Eastern PA
with him. Since then, he has been used for pony clubbing and has
been shown extensively in hunter classes. One owner campaigned
him in New Hampshire and got year end high score awards in
Non-Thoroughbred Working Hunter and Amateur Owner Working Hunter.
The horse is now 25 years old and still being used for light riding.
I guess he was just put together right to stand up to such a life.
A horse should get some conditioning when they are young, and not
left totally idle. I went to a conditioning seminar 8 years ago
that was put on by the magazine EQUUS. One of the presentations
showed X-rays of the cannon bones of two horses, one that had been
conditioned properly and one that had been left idle. The one that
had been conditioned properly had a cannon bone that was bright
white in the X-ray, and the other horse had a light gray colored
bone. This showed that the density and strength of the cannon bone
of the conditioned horse was much greater than the other horse.
I think these horses were 6 years old when these X-rays were taken.
Hope that this has not confused anyone.
Diana
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