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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
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Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
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928.0. "Creosote substitute needed" by VMSSG::PAANANEN () Mon Apr 24 1989 13:46

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DELNI::KEIRAN                                        10 lines  24-APR-1989 08:49
                           -< Creosote substitute? >-
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    Now that creosote is off the market, what are people using to treat
    lumber?  When we built our barn 11 years ago, we creosoted the whole
    thing.  Now it is in desperate need of another paint job and I want
    to use something that is safe for the horses but will also protect
    the wood.  Any suggestions?  
    
    Thanks,
    
    Linda
    
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928.1Try tack shopSTEREO::JENKINSTue Apr 25 1989 16:028
    Most tack shops carry a gallon preparation used the same as creosote.
    I don't believe it works as well but it might be worth a try.  Just
    ask your tack shop.  I also add red pepper to it as well and just
    keep it stirred up as the pepper settles to the bottom.
    
    Happy painting!!
    
    Nancy
928.2Not for the whole barnFENNEL::HEWSONWed Apr 26 1989 14:089
    I have used the stuff that .1 mentioned from the tack shops.  It
    works for keeping horses from chewing, but it smells and has the
    consistency of driveway sealer.  I do not think that it would be
    good for painting a whole barn.  I would use regular stain for the
    whole barn and then the "goop" for places where the horses chew.
    
    It's hard to keep a farm without creosote.
    
    Diana
928.3Try CuprinolWAV14::BOEVoice of the TurtleThu Apr 27 1989 09:2413
Re: .0

Like you, I went in search of creosote and found that it had been
off the market since I had used it last.  I was told that New
Hampshire still sold it, and took a ride up there (about an hour).
They don't.

Cuprinol has a few products with the functionality of creosote and,
in my case, they have one type that is also the color of creosote.
It's a preservative, a water repellant, and has an almost pleasant
odor, reminicent of the twine used in fishing nets.

Dave
928.4DELNI::KEIRANThu Apr 27 1989 11:435
    RE .3
    
    I was under the impression that cuprinol could be harmful to animals
    if they chewed it, is that true?
    
928.5one idea.......ISLNDS::SOBEKThu Apr 27 1989 12:2916
    A well-know Morgan breeder recommended Carbolineum (sp) in an article
    I read several years ago. At the time the only place I could find
    it was the tack shop in Andover. I bought them out at the time.
    Last year I found it at UCF in Littleton and State Line Tack in
    NH. Although irritating to my (sensative) skin, I found it nowhere
    near as caustic as creosote and it completely discouraged the chewing
    habits of the 'barn eating' Morgan I had at the time. 
    I find it is easier and less expensive to use Olympic stain on the
    barn and fencing ...and just go over the 'inviting surfaces' with
    the carbolineum. I've had good luck and no complaints with it.
    ...Seems to me I remember seeing ads in _The Western Horseman_ a
    few years ago too. I don't know if it would be any cheaper to buy
    it direct.....
    
    Linda
    
928.6looking for cresoteKDCA01::CDCUP_WIGGINFri Apr 28 1989 13:5017
RE: .0

like anybody that is in to horses i have just completed a barn 
and a huge paddock with 6x6 posts and 2x6 rails the whole 
paddock was cresoted. i painted it on with a roller on
a windy day and ended up with a bad burn on my face 
(anybody seen the movie 'SCARFACE') well that is what i
looked like for a week. CRESOTE can still be bought here
in the great white north anyone still intrested 
 just call.
    
               dtn 621-2584
                hugh
    
                       
    
928.7try AgwayWMOIS::J_BENNETTconstants aren&#039;t; variables won&#039;tTue May 02 1989 13:088
Agway in Peterborough NH sells Carbolineum, a neighbor with Arab-termite
crosses highly recommends it.

Also, for very small areas (favorite chew spots) I have a magazine that
suggests rubbing a bar of soap on the area to discourage chewing.  I have
tried Chew-stop and nearly passed out from the fumes - and it didn't last
very long.