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874.14 | Hide my horse??why?? | SEDJAR::NANCY | | Fri Jun 10 1988 11:51 | 16 |
| Hi!
I have an Arab colt that was born this year ... and I've been told
that if I wanted to, I could show him as a weanling once this year, but...
then to HIDE him until he's ready to show as a yearling??? Does
this make any sense? Is this the kind of strategy I have to deal
with if I want to show my horse? What's the advantage to not letting
people see your horse before you show him? Are they supposed to
be impressed?
I really don't understand why I should want to do this?
I really would like to hear some candid opinions on this!!!
Thanks, Nancy
P.S. He's an exceptionally beautiful horse, so I don't think it
was meant that I should hide him because he's UGLY.
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874.15 | Sometimes considered "good" strategy | KEATON::FOX | A momentary lapse of reason... PF | Fri Jun 10 1988 13:40 | 10 |
| I think the idea is to "bring him out with a bang" as a yearling,
ie. "set the Arabian show world on its ear with this fantastic horse".
"Hiding" him will keep your competition from knowing what their
competition is.
Good luck!
I don't think it was meant badly but rather as a "yes, he's nice
this year but, wow, just wait until next year!"
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874.16 | Funny growing stage? | EQUINE::DANI | | Tue Jun 14 1988 11:12 | 14 |
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I have some friends who have breed their own babies. There's have been
really gorgeous creature also, but even thier went thru a gangly
stage.
Perhaps the person who made the comment was saying that the gangly
stage will occur before your colt is a yearling, and to hide him
during that time.
Either way... if it were me, I wouldn't him!
Just guessing,
Dani
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874.17 | IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU | EMASA2::NICKERSON | | Tue Jun 14 1988 16:56 | 15 |
| If you wish to show your horse, at any stage, don't feel that you
shouldn't. It is totally up to you.
Some folks like to bring them out with a bang; when they are looking
their best and that is usually not as a yearling but they are all
individuals and have good and bad moments whenever mother nature
says.
The folks who hold off on showing are usually those who show Class
A as a rule and are big breeders.
Again, if you want to show him at any stage just do it.
GOOD LUCK...it realy is fun showing.
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874.18 | I'm not going to hide him! | SEDJAR::NANCY | | Mon Jun 20 1988 16:14 | 5 |
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Thank you for replying...I was really curious! I think you are all
RIGHT! I will show my horse "whenever I want to!" I have no reason
to hide him.
Thanks again, Nancy
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874.1 | HELF... | ASABET::NICKERSON | | Fri Mar 03 1989 13:54 | 6 |
| May I ask if this mare came from Sterling, Ma.? Also where
are you located so that you may be put in touch with someone
in your area to help you out.
Look forward to hearing from you
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874.2 | Training begins in the Trailer | WMOIS::PORTER | | Mon Mar 06 1989 07:29 | 25 |
| I can vouch for the kicking, since I am the one who trailered the
horse. As far as the trailering problem I believe it stems only
from the fact that the horse had not been trailered for a couple
of years prior to the trip to your house. It was obvious by the
way that the horse entered and left the trailer that fear was not
the motivator.
My advice is to buy or borrow a trailer and daily work with it building
the horse up slowly. If you don't get a horse used to trailering
you'll have no horse to show. Working slowly with this horse is
the key. Just load it in the trailer and feed it the first day.
Load it and start the motor the second, drive it to the end of
the driveway the third etc.
I know your horse and I agree it will do anything you ask of it
but, she needs to reason it out first. Once the trailering has been
conquered you're ready to show and local shows are a good way to
start. Typically in the spring a large number of schooling shows
are available and I have always found these very beneficial. There
is much less preasure and the judges are quite willing to explain
to each individual there good points as well as bad.
Best of luck,
Karen
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874.3 | Where to Start..... | MPGS::SCHOFIELD | | Mon Mar 06 1989 10:21 | 16 |
| Where are you located? There are some nicely run shows held at The
Pony Farm in Temple, NH. They have several classes catering to the
inexperienced. For example - Adult walk-trot equitation and pleasure,
also a division for green horses - walk, trot, canter - but no more
than 8 horses in the ring at a time. The woman to contact is Bo
McDaniels. There are some open local shows held in Barre, MA and
Spencer. The Arabian folks are having an open show in June at Spencer.
You could go to some shows and watch - alot can be learned by watching
or grooming for someone who is showing.
If you could trailer your horse to a friends or an instructor it
would give you an idea of how your horse will act in company away
from home.
Good Luck!
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874.4 | location | SQM::PRESTIDGE | John Prestidge - International SQM | Wed Mar 08 1989 14:02 | 9 |
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RE: .1, yes, this is the mare from Sterling Ma. and we're located
in Weare NH. (about 8-10 miles west of Manchester).
Appreciate the help.
-John (replying for his wife Sue who was using someone else's account
in .0 when she was working at DEC via a temp agency for a
day)
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874.5 | Sterling... | ASABET::NICKERSON | | Wed Mar 08 1989 14:35 | 11 |
| We trailered the mare when the previous owners bought her and she
kicked then...the entire ride. We were told by the original owners
that it was the size of the trailer...we had a two horse at the
time. She was used to travelling in a 6 horse if I remember correctly
and always with others. The time we trailered her she was alone
and I am assuming when you received her she was alone.
Will be back to you on who I know in the area to help with the showing.
Good luck...
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874.6 | trailer stress | WMOIS::PORTER | | Fri Mar 10 1989 06:35 | 5 |
| This mare was alone the last time she was trailered in a two horse
trailer. I am sure that another thing which did not help was the
fact I have an exta wide, and she did not seem to be able to balance
well or gain any support from the oversized stalls (she is nowhere
near as wide as my horses).
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874.7 | Wider is better! | PLANET::NICKERSON | Bob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^) | Fri Mar 17 1989 12:38 | 18 |
| I don't think that the width of the trailer was an issue since when
we trailered her, she was in a standard size stall. In any case,
wide trailers provide more support than narrow trailers. Horses
will "spread eagle" their legs when a trailer begins to move. This
has the effect of giving a wider base of stability for their center
of gravity (although I doubt they actually reason any of this out).
People do the same thing on a moving surface so it is pretty natural
to do. The wider the trailer, the more they can spread their legs
and the greater the stability. Many people take advantage of this
by removing the partition when trailering a horse alone especially
for "scramblers". I really think this mare is just mad at the floor
for moving around so much so she shows her anger by kicking out.
I would try her with another horse first and if she still kicks,
I'd try something like riding with her and sounding a loud bell
or fog horn every time she kicked.
Bob
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874.8 | Patience will bring the result | WOODRO::ZAHND | | Tue Mar 21 1989 16:40 | 26 |
| Trailering -
I got all the practice that I needed in this subject last summer.
I have a 17.1 hand Thouroughbred, he always loaded himself on the
trailer and never stopped or kicked. He was in Weare at a barn boarded
and the people took him on a joy ride. He would not go close to
his trailer in weeks. When I moved him from there, (emergency) I
had to call a friend to give him three shots of ACE. He still managed
to jump three fences. We finally did get him into the trailer and
moved him into a privat barn. He would not go close to the trailer
since he was terrified of it. He is a kind of a nervous young man
tobegin with. The trailer was then put into his paddock and he could
get used to it again. I was advised not to feed him in there, because
it is just a trick. He learned, due to his curiosity, to walk on
and examine the trailer again. We closed the trailer while he was
in it with no truck attached. He nearly jumpt over the steel bars.
He got scared. Then we let him go on the trailer with the truck
next to it. Every week we did progress the steps, until he walked
on and stayed without getting scared. Then we took short trips around
the town and brought him right back home. Now, a year later he is
OK again. He thinks about walking on this trailer but he will walk
on it after a little time. He has to smell it, he has to convince
himself that it is OK.
It took time.
Good luck and lots of patience. DO not force it.
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874.9 | Have fun, go to breed shows, clinics | KOAL::AIKEN | Arabian Horse Breeder DTN378-6706 | Wed Mar 22 1989 14:53 | 31 |
| BAck to showing an Arab...
Before we got into Arabs, we attended open, schooling shows. There
happened to be several ARabas participating, especially in the timed
events. To see how halter handlers do what they do, you might consider
renting a tape at you local tack store; Bob Hart, Jr.'s halter
tape is excellent! You get to see him stand a horse at halter and
hear him explain why/how.
Go to a few breed shows. Watch how the handlers enter the ring,
what they wear for daytime and evening shows, how they are pinned.
It's not necessary to use the so-called highlighter (the colored
variety) that some handlers use around the eyes of their horses;
just make sure the horse is clean, clean, clean. Clip the bridle
path (no more than 12 inches from the poll) and the whiskers. You'll
see at the breed shows what else is usual. Talk to handlers after
their classes. If they're amateurs, they'll probably be happy to
talk to you about showing. If they're pros, they probably won't
give you trade secrets, but may share a small tip or two.
Go to clinics. There is one at State College, PA, on May 13, featuring
Kit Hall. Call Sandy Sloan (814) 696-4185 for an application.
The cost is only $10. It's $40/session if you bring your horse.
Find a friend who shows in the same division you do, i.e., halter
or performance. That way, you can arrive at and leave the show
at the same time.
Most of all, have fun!!
Merrie
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874.10 | More on showing... | CHOWDA::HGORDON | | Mon Jul 31 1989 16:43 | 18 |
| To start showing, first get either "The Yankee Horseman's Peddlar"
or "The Nutmeg Bulletin". Usually both of these are available at
a good tack store. Both list numerous shows. Start with the open
shows that include classes for both Arabs as a breed and other classes
for all breeds. This way you can show only with Arabs and then
also in the "open" classes. The classes where you may find some
discrimination against Arabs are: confirmation hunter, working hunter,
and halter for "western type" horses. All of the other classes
like open english or Western Pleasure, Trail, Bridle Path Hack,
Command Clases, Show Hack, Open Jumping, etc., you will be just
as competitive as any other breed as long as your horse is properly
trained for that division. Frankly, because Arabs are usually the
prettiest horse in the class you always get noticed by the judge.
We show both at the all breed shows and the open shows and do quite
well at both. We enjoy the open shows more as there is more
appreciation of a good horse there no matter what the breed. Don't
forget organized pleasure rides/drives, poker rides, scavenger hunts,
etc. Arabs are always welcome at these events. Have fun!
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874.11 | | SHARE::HOWLAND | | Tue Aug 28 1990 13:47 | 20 |
| I also am new at showing with an Arab. My gelding is trained to ride
hunt seat. How to get started, well with a young horse, go to the
small local shows. Schooling shows work the best for me. They are
small less crowded and I stand a chance of getting home before the next
day. Some shows I do better than others, it depends on the judge. I
went to one show were Gretchen Caldwell was judging. She loved Metrik,
he could do no wrong. We pinned very highly (1st and 2nd) each time in
good company(eight horses). Even when he picked up the wrong lead, he
pinned second! Then I have gone back to the same show a week later,
had the horse show well, and not even been looked at. I look at these
shows as training sessons for me as well as him. I want to show in the
Arab circuit, but these shows are predominently A rated. No fooling
around here, we have to look and be our best, so for now, while the A
Arab shows are still for the pro's, we must practice, practice,
practice.
Good luck!
stephanie
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874.12 | DON'T BE FOOLED | ASABET::NICKERSON | KATHIE NICKERSON 223-2025 | Wed Aug 29 1990 11:51 | 11 |
| Don't be fooled...judges are judges. I show the A circuit for
Arabs...we have a good time but I have given poor rides and been pinned
and then given absolutely super rides and not been looked at.
On the one judge system you definitely can be seen and not seen.
Whatever you do have fun...THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. We certainly
aren't doing it for the money.
Kathie
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874.13 | its true | BRAT::MATTHEWS | sweet shroud of desperation | Wed Aug 29 1990 16:56 | 13 |
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and also!!!! alwlays remeber this.. this pulled me thru on my
championships while i was in the ring with all pros!
The professional can be beaten on any given day..
(my dads saying)
wendy o'
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