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| 679.1 | | USADEC::GILL | | Fri Aug 12 1988 16:46 | 25 |
| Sacking out is a process of teaching a horse that he is truly tied,
no matter what he may want to do. It is tricky to do, and I know
that unless I was sure about what I had him tied to (not a fence
or a tree with a fork in it) I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't think
that you would want to sack out a horse for being shy about his
hind end or face. I would suggest working with him slowly by doing
something pleasant like brushing and touching. Horses are social
creatures by nature and by being patient and non threatening you
can do wonders. Ask Coco on his terms, don't push. Chances are
he is not being bad but behaving because of a bad experience. Trying
reading The Body Language of Horses by Bonnie Leadbetter, a book
I highly recommend and you can find in just about any tack shop.
It may take a while, but soon he will become less and less intolerent
of what you are doing. Move slow and you will soon see progress.
A Pasa Fino is a Spanish breed of horse known for its smoother than
silk gaits. There is the Pasa Fino and the Peruvian Paso, also
known for its gaits. Both breeds are distinct, but I have forgotten
how. They are both known for their nice dispositions too.
Hope this helps,
regards,
stephanie
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| 679.2 | That's Paso Fino | GENRAL::BOURBEAU | | Fri Aug 12 1988 16:47 | 14 |
| The breed you asked about id Paso Fino. I don't know about them
except that they're originally a South Amarican breed, run at about
14.2 hands and have a very smooth,animated gait. They are very high
steppers.
As far as brands are concerned, they can be traced, and are
usually unique at least within a state. The placement of the brand
also enters into it,,,i.e. Left shoulder in South Dakota,left hip
in Colorado. I think this is right. Th concept that I'm trying to
clumsilly get across is that the same brand could possibly be used
in different states, but may be applied to different parts of the
body. It would probably help if you knew what state Coco came from.
George
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| 679.3 | Almost forgot "Sacking Out" | GENRAL::BOURBEAU | | Fri Aug 12 1988 16:56 | 20 |
| I forgot to mention that sacking out can be done for various
reasons and in various ways. If you just want your horse to get
over being shy at his rear end, you could start by just rubbing
gently with a blanket or towel until he stands quietly. Over time
become a little more vigorous until you can flap the blanket around
him with no reaction. In Coco's case, avoid a fight, take you time
go slowly. It's OK to continue if he just frets a little, but if
he seems to get more agitated than you want back off and calm him
down.
Sacking out is usually done to a green horse to get him used
to things flopping around and bumping him. This prerares him for
the saddle and the stirrups bumping him. It also prepares him for
such things as saddlebags and the many other things that could
end up tied to the saddle.
If you decide to use this tool, remember to go slowly and gently,
and keep reassuring him in a soft voice until he adjusts.
Good luck,
George
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| 679.4 | did you get papers? | SALEM::RATAY | | Mon Aug 15 1988 11:03 | 9 |
| As far as finding out his background, you didn't mention if you
got registration papers with him, How did you know he's a Paso Fino?
If he does have reg.papers the Registry for that breed will trace
some of his background for a small fee and you can trace his ancestry
too by going to where the books are kept at your nearest location
(usually a University or large library).
I agree with taking it slow, easy, and gentle, along with the touching
and brushing. Horses respond very well to this treatment, forget
the Sacking Out! Just my two cents...
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| 679.5 | try the sale barn clerk | BSS::LEECH | Pat Leech CX01/02 DTN 522-6044 | Mon Aug 15 1988 12:28 | 22 |
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Since you got him at a sale barn I would go back to the barn and
ask the sale clerk who had consigned him and where he was from.
Every horse that goes through the barn and is sold will have the
name and address of the person that brought the horse in.
Brands vary from state to state and with time. The info that you
get from the sale barn should allow you to find out what state the
horse was from. You could then write the state brand registry
(part of the state dept. of agriculture) and find out who the brand
is registered to.
When I shipped my mare from Illinois to Colorado I was told by the comercial
shippers that the truck would be stopped at the Colorado border
and that all horses on the van would be checked to make sure that
the horses matched the paper work. This included verifying all
brands and markings. Any horses that did not match the paper work
would be pulled off the van and held until correct ownership was
established. The paper work that I had to send included current
health certificate, a negative coggins, and a copy of her registartion
papers with her discription on it. I had no problems with shipping
her.
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| 679.7 | Possible problems | BSS::LEECH | Pat Leech CX01/02 DTN 522-6044 | Mon Aug 15 1988 14:45 | 19 |
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If the papers that you got from the barn say that he is a 16 hand
TB and he is about 14 hands then you have the wrong papers. The
QH papers should show the brand on them. I believe that the QH
people reissue the papers on any horse that has been branded to
reflect this change. If this were me I would double check the markings
shown on the papers and have the horse measured to make certain
of his height. Trying to show or sell a horse with the wrong papers
can leave you open for all sorts of legal problems. I would also
double check the with the sale barn clerk asap. This type of thing
happens at sale barns alot and is one of the main things that you
have to watch out for. Another thing is that the previous owner
doesn't sign the transfer and then you have a horse that is of reduced
value (essentially you paid for a grade horse at a registered horse
price). They also can't be shown at breed shows or used as breeding
stock in that registry.
Pat
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