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663.1 | NO BLANKETS IS THE BEST | EMASA2::NICKERSON | | Thu Jul 21 1988 17:36 | 26 |
| Sue...
Congratulations on your new ownership, especially of an Arabian.
We happen to raise them in New England. They go out about 5:30
in the morning and come in around 6 in the evening. We don't use
blankets unless someone is ill. We found that we ran into more
problems (colds, etc.) when we used blankets.
Arabs do grow coats if you let them (no blankets). We have a wide
range of coats as we have 10 Arabs at present count. Each
individual grows what he/she requires to keep warm. They have
shelters if they wish to go in...which they normally don't wish
to use but that is their choice.
We do bring them in at night and if it is real stormy they stay
in during the day. However, we have two who live outside all year
round...5 years and 27 years...and I believe they are the healthiest
of the entire crew.
We do keep them up in weight in the winter and slim down in the
summer...schedule of feeding three times a day.
Enough of my ramblings. More about you...
Where are you located? Does the horse stay with you? Where
did you find him? etc. Love to have you visit and visit with
you if you are close by.
GOOD LUCK...it is a lot of fun.
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663.2 | Blanketing | SALEM::DOUGLAS | | Fri Jul 22 1988 12:14 | 34 |
| Hi Sue,
I live 100 miles away from work (round trip daily). In the winter,
my guys are blanketed at nite with an indoor rug which are quilted
but *not* waterproof.
At 5:oo am I'm up and feeding them. At that time, I change
over their indoor rugs to the New Zealand rug which has an inner
lining (sic?) and the outer shell *is* waterproof canvas/tent
material. This way, they can be turned out all day and stay dry
in bad weather.
When I get home at 4:30pm, if it's warm I take their blankets
off for about an hour in the barn. If it's cold, I change directly
to their indoor rugs.
In very bad weather you can leave their indoor rug on
and put the N.Z. rug over the indoor rug if they'll be out all day.
You have to use good judgement. Constant blanketing will
stop them from growing a good winer coat so therefore, they will
have to be blanketed all winter.
I don't start blanketing until early November so that
they will get some winter coat. I stop blanketing aroung early March,
as you can have some warm days, and you don't want your horse sweating
in their blanket on a 50 degree day while you're at work.
Some owners don't beleive in blanketing at all. Some feel
they are healthier without it, especially if they have a leanto
(shelter) for protection against bad weather.
Some owners blanket for the fact that they purposely *don't*
want their horses to get a winter coat. These are the show horses
that are active daily. If they have too long a coat and have a heavy
workout, they can't release sweat properly as the winter coat traps
the heat next to the horse and therefore they can't cool off easily.
Hope this helps,
Tina
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663.3 | | USADEC::GILL | | Fri Jul 22 1988 13:31 | 29 |
| Not blanketing is the best. In bad weather, I leave them in. Horses
are healthier if you leave nature alone.
As to blankets not allowing a horse to grow a winter coat? Studies
have shown that horses start to grow their winter coats in August.
As the days shorten, the light changes. This light change coming
through the eye and hitting the pituitary (sp?) gland signals the
body to grow their winter underwear. The only way to fool nature
is to start keeping the lights on in the barn (they do this to cycle
mares earlier as well, same reason) The extra light simulates daylight.
A horse will grow a coat as much as he is gentically able. Some
breeds grow long, others need help. Wait and see. My arab grows
a shorter coat than the quarter horses in the barn, and so in a
wind chill he goes out with a blanket. If it sleets, he stays in.
Other than that, if its sunny and cold, no blanket and they are
happy. Don't be upset if you see snow on your horse. That's good,
it means that all the warm air is on his skin and not melting the
snow. In fact that snow will make more insulation. We have been
blanketing this way for a long time with no illness.
Also note, we have a tight barn with 10 occupants. Closing the
barn up at night means that the barn stays above freezing all night.
We do not blanket at night unless it becomes bitterly cold (-60
wind chill type stuff). Otherwise, you don't wear your jacket in
the house, so why should they.
Tell us about your arab, and where you are keeping him.
Stephanie
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663.4 | More on the horse concerned... | OFFPLS::PRESTIDGE | | Fri Jul 22 1988 14:12 | 23 |
| The horse is a 15.1, 8 yr old mare. She will be staying on
my property in a barn that I would not exactly call "tight" because
the big doors at the end of the barn are not built yet, hence, there
is plenty of ventilation. The current owner says she doesn't blanket
her in the winter, but I live a few more miles north in Weare, NH,
and think there may be a 5 - 10 degree temperature difference.
What happens, if it's sunny, and you turnout the horse unblanketed,
and during the day while you're at work, it starts to sleet or rain?
Due to the nature of my job, I can never leave work before 5:00
and must be here for 8:15. Should I be worried or am I being unduly
paranoid? It takes me at least 45 minutes to get home so I'd be
getting home in the winter well after the night-time chill has begun
(6:45 - 7:00pm).
I want to do what's best for the horse, which is probably leaving
her unblanketed, except maybe in extreme wind chills, like you said...
but I have been known to worry:-!.
Thanks,
Sue
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663.5 | | USADEC::GILL | | Fri Jul 22 1988 15:05 | 17 |
| Sue,
No you are not being unduly parnoid. I have to pay very strict
attention to the weather to try to circumvent any problems like
that. Will the current owner be there all the time. Are you buying
this place? or boarding? Can she put horses in or out if changes
occur in the weather? That is why run-ins are always better. Ask
how she keeps her horses in the winter. Also you might try asking
the former owners how much of a winter coat your mare grows so you
can at least be forwarned. It's very hard to be that far from home
and worry about what's happening on the home front. I guess sometimes
you can only do the very best you can and hope for the best and
that the creek don't rise.
regards,
Stephanie
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663.6 | Let Nature Take it's Course | TWEED::PORTER | | Fri Jul 22 1988 15:19 | 20 |
| I have already spoken to Sue about this in person but I can't help
but voice my opinion here. I have in the past blanketed mainly
because I thought my horses were cold and I was doing them a favor.
Little did I know mother nature is smarter than all of us put together.
When one of my babied beasts came up sick with a minor winter flu
the vet let me know in no uncertain terms I was doing him no favor.
Since that time I've let nature take its course. This is not to
say that blanketing will make your horse sick but I honestly beleive
that not blanketing prepares them better for what's to come in terms
of wet and cold and in New England you can't avoid that.
We have trees for protection in our pasture but find that the horses
usually prefer to stand right out in the middle of the cold and
snow, and there is nothing sadder than to look out and see icicles
hanging from your horse. Minor protesction from wind and rain
seem to be the only requirements for keeping my horses happy through
the winter.
"It's not nice to fool mother nature"
Karen
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663.7 | I agree with mother nature! | JAIMES::GOLDMAN | | Fri Jul 22 1988 16:27 | 25 |
| I agree with mother nature!
Although for many years I didn't. When I lived in Maine not only
did I blanket at night but I would only let my horses out for a
couple of hours a day in the winter for fear that they would freeze.
Because of that my horses had runny noses all the time and had poor
attitudes.
After moving to Massachusetts I decided to leave my horse out all
day and not to use a blanket at night.
Since I made that decision my horse has never been sick. Has had
the most beautiful coat in the summer and it's obviouse he's much
happier.
Infact, all the other horses at the barn were I board wear blankets
in the winter and all the owners comment on how healthy my horse
is and how great he looks.
Regards,
Susan
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663.8 | Metabolism drives hair growth | KOAL::AIKEN | Arabian Horse Breeder DTN378-6706 | Fri Jul 22 1988 17:09 | 29 |
| Sue, I have ARabians, too. Although I live in Maryland close to
the Chesapeake Bay, we have some cold winters here. Cold and damp
because of the humidity.
My vet said a horse's hair coat grows according to the horse's
metabolic rate. The more efficient the metabolism, the shorter
the hair coat.
This year, we're turning the babies out more often, even in mild
summer rain. I'm going to try leaving them out at night, except
on the coldest days. The only weather the horses, especially pregnant
mares, can't tolerate is freezing rain; I call the weather service
every morning so I can make an informed decision about turning out
in the main pasture or putting them up in paddocks with a shelter.
I don't have a shelter in the pasture yet, but plan to before winter.
In the meantime, there are stands of trees and a stream for them
on the 30 acres.
As for blanketing, I don't do it. There are body clips you can
trim if you ride often in the winter; anyone who hunts can show
you. If you bodyclip, you'll have to blanket, though.
Arabs are tough. And, as several have said, horses do better in
nature if we don't impose our ideas on them.
What's the breeding on your ARabian? I raise Crabbet/Egyptians
for driving.
Merrie Aiken
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663.9 | Arabs don't need blankets | SEDJAR::NANCY | | Fri Jul 22 1988 18:08 | 39 |
|
Sue,
Congradulations on your new Arabian! I bought my first horses
last year which are all Arabs and I love them! They have wonderful
temperments, are easy to work with, and in my opinion..the perfect
family horse.
I live in Candia, NH ...which is not far from Weare and the
weather/temperatures are the same. This past winter, I did not
blanket any of my horses (5yo mare,2yo filly,new foal in Mar 88).
In December my filly was partially clipped her to aid in
helping her cool down after being worked. Although I had bought a
blanket for her while in training...she ended up not needing it.
My pregnant mare was turned out for about 4 hours every weekday
and all day every weekend and even though she did not grow a very
thick winter coat, she did not need a blanket. It was suggested
to me that because I brushed her everyday (new owners do this)
she was not likely to grow as thick a coat?
I have noticed that horses have a way of finding where to stand
in cold weather so that the sun shines on them during the day, and
the wind is less severe. From what I understand, it is better not
to blanket Arabians in the winter unless you have a reason to
(i.e. your horse has been clipped or you don't want them to grow
a thick winter coat because they are show horses or a stallion that
stands at stud and will be shown to perspective breeders during
the winter months.). If you have a shelter (lean to) that your horse
can use to get out of the wind or inclimate weather she will be
fine. Of course...when the weather is really severe, keep her inside.
My foal was born this year when there was snow on the ground.
He did not have a thick winter coat. He went out with mom the day
after he was born and did not suffer in the cold. After a few weeks
of going out his coat got a little thicker (mother nature).
Build some temporary (inexpensive) doors for your barn for the
winter. Make them light weight and so they swing out for safety.
Sometime later put the doors you want on. You will probably appreciate
the added warmth in the barn more than the horses...also this will
help prevent ice from forming in their water buckets during the
night.
Good Luck with your new horse,
Regards, Nancy
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663.10 | Colorado Comfort | BSS::ZINN | | Fri Jul 22 1988 18:39 | 8 |
| Here in Colorado, we can hit 20, below at night with wind chill
factors as low as 50 below. The only horse we've ever blanketed
is my wife's mare (seems really sensitive to cold.) The others
have been turned out with nothing but a loafing shed (3-sided)
for protection, and we've never had a problem. If they can get
shelter from the wind, they're fine. I've seen them with ice an
inch thick on their backs in a snowstorm; break the ice off and
thier backs are warm underneath. Horses are amazing!
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663.11 | natural = healthy | TIS::RAY | | Mon Jul 25 1988 09:22 | 21 |
| I lived in Maine with two horses before moving to Massachusetts-
an older Arabian gelding and a quarter horse mare. Both horses
had stalls which opened out to a pasture, and were allowed to
go in and out as they wished, unless the pasture was icy. If it
was very cold (10 below zero or more), they were locked into the
barn (this made the barn much warmer, since cold air wasn't coming
in through their stall doors), and a blanket was put on the Arab
as he would shiver when it was extremely cold.
Neither of them ever had a cold or flu in the 10 years that I had
them... They would also stay outside even in snowstorms, come in
only occassionally in the rain.
One more thing, if cold or ice meant the horses had to be locked
into the barn during the day, they got handwalked every evening
just so that they got some exercise.
Good luck with your new horse!
Joan
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663.12 | | DYO780::AXTELL | Dragon Lady | Mon Jul 25 1988 12:06 | 22 |
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I blanket my horses at about 0 degrees, or if they are shivering.
My horses are out all day during the winter and unblanketed most
of the time. Of course they have a shelter to come in any time
they want. The only time I blanket outside is when we have
freezing rain (which we have a lot of here in Ohio). Snow isn't
bad but a soaked horses in rapidly dropping temperatures isn't a
happy sight. For outside blankets, I use waterproof New Zealand type
rugs. For inside I like Baker Blankets - they're warm and seem to
last forever.
Here's a couple of misc winter tips...
Beware of icy pastures, especially with shod horses - they can have
some pretty spectacular falls. And make sure the critters have access
to water - dehydration is a real concern in winter. And learn
to ride bareback - it SO much warmer!
-Maureen
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663.13 | another word for mother nature | HERMES::WELSH | | Mon Jul 25 1988 14:43 | 10 |
| I have no experience with Arabs, but I do know that my vet recommends
against blanketing. I have had quarter horses and connemaras for
close to 15 years... and have never had a problem.
AND, I have found that the quarter horses prefer to be outside in
all kinds of weather, if given the option with a run-in. (Which,
as was stated in an earlier note, really is the best option, especially
for your peace of mind while at work and the weather suddenly changes.)
kathy
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663.14 | Given the choice... | BUGCHK::DINGEE | Julie Dingee, VAX Forms Development | Mon Jul 25 1988 16:26 | 24 |
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True, true, it's all true! I live about 40 miles from work,
so have a shed my two can go into and out of whenever they
want, right from the paddock. It contains their stalls,
which have a thick bed of shavings, and I put an old carpet
over the door, that they have learned to walk through.
It gets nice and toasty warm inside when they're in there,
and stays dry.
However, when I get home from work and it's been snowing hard
for two or three hours, there they are, out by the house
watching for me. Each will have a tall upside-down coneshaped
pile of snow on top of his/her head, between the ears. It
makes me laugh every time I see it, and they can't understand
why!
So, anyhow, given the opportunity to do what THEY want to do,
they prefer to be outside in the snow, no blankets. But, when
it's very windy, they're inside that shed. So if you can give
them some structure, maybe just a lean-to, or 3 sides with a
roof, so that they can get out of the elements, I think they'd
be very happy.
-j
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