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536.1 | Physical Problem? | MILVAX::NICKERSON | | Thu Mar 24 1988 15:37 | 16 |
| You may not be doing anything wrong. He may have a physical problem
on that side...either from lack of use or a muscle problem.
Have you spoken to your vet?
We have gone as far as getting a physical therapist to come over
and go over the mare. She does seem better. Her problem was not
in taking the lead, although she was much tighter on that side,
but in getting the same level of trot on both sides. We are now
awaiting the outcome.
The person we got was Jeanne Sullivan...she talked to the group
that Julie Nadjar pulled together about a month ago.
If you need more information, please let me know. I can be reached
at MILVAX::NICKERSON.
Good luck
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536.2 | I though of that | USMRM2::PMARKELL | | Thu Mar 24 1988 16:04 | 14 |
| I has thought of that, but in watching him carefully in the field
I have seen him pull some mighty fancy manuvers out there. He can
and does canter on the right lead in the field, even do some very
pretty flying lead changes for the fun of it. But asking him and
having him understand seems to be the problem. He in no way exhibits
any sign of pain (ie. wringing his tail, flattened ears, bucking ect.) he
is willing, relaxed and happy to be cantering.
I would be interested in taking to this person anyway though if
you could supply the address and or phone #.
Thanks
stephanie dtn 297-5449
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536.3 | Another thought | VOLGA::PORTER | | Fri Mar 25 1988 08:12 | 20 |
| Once it is determined there is no physical reason for this
problem there are a number of other alternatives. Are you
cueing the horse at the correct time. If your timing is off
there is a possibility the horse is responding to your request
correctly. Asking a young horse for a right lead when his feet
are in position for a left lead take off will most likely result
in a left lead. Placement of a horses feet when you ask for
changes is as critical as giving the correct cues for that change.
One handy trick I've learned for forcing a horse into a certain
lead when all else fails is picking up a canter over a jump.
Try trotting up to a small jump, and upon landing ask for a bend
to the right picking up a canter. It is critical that the right
front foot land first.
The suppling excercises and circling excersises you are doing all
seem to be the right start. What works for one will not always
work for another. Keep trying, good luck.
Karen
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536.4 | Natural Method | MED::D_SMITH | | Mon Mar 28 1988 09:10 | 16 |
| Another way that might work is to canter your horse towards a wall
or fence. Then at the very last minute change directions to the
right. He should natural take the right lead, even without a cue,
although use the cue so next time he'll associate your cue with
taking the right lead. Let him know at once he did good! Once he is
in the right lead, continue in that direction for a while. Work on the
left lead as well but most of your time should be spent on the right side.
Of course the amount of training time depends on the attention span
of your horse. If he has a short attention, he may get frustrated
from continues training and may stop paying attention all together.
Put him away for awhile. Keep your sessions short (10 minutes or
so) and he will learn more in that time.
Good luck
faster, also will be more willing next time.
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536.5 | more suggestions | ASD::NAJJAR | | Mon Mar 28 1988 12:34 | 33 |
| What .4 assumes is that your horse will do a flying lead change
(if he is not already on the right lead as he approaches the wall).
What may happen is that the horse switches only in the front and
ends up cross cantering. This could frighten him because of the
unbalanced feeling and make things worse (depending on your horse's
temperment).
You might want to read through the replies to the dressage note,
I think this topic was discussed in there at one time.
Does your horse know how to canter on the lunge line? If he knows
voice commands and knows how to canter on the lunge. You may want
to work him for 10 min before you ride on the lunge line in both
directions (getting him to canter correctly in both directions for
a short amount of time).
If the horse responds to voice commands and is not afraid of a
schooling whip, you can try to use them in combination. As you
are trotting in a circle to the left, gather the contact with your
reins and make sure the horse is bent properly around the circle. Make
sure you don't lean forward as you ask for the canter - this throws
your weight onto the shoulders and makes it more difficult for the
horse to free them up. As you move your left leg back to ask for the
canter lead, give a quick tap with the whip along with your leg aid.
This sometimes startles the horse into picking up the correct lead -
because in this direction, the left hind leg is the first leg in the
canter sequence for the right lead.
The method of asking over a small jump works for some horses, but
it depends on horse & rider combination.
What ever method you try, make sure you praise the horse when he
does respond correctly and don't stay in the canter for long.
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536.6 | Circles? | BOEHM::SCHLENER | | Mon Mar 28 1988 13:50 | 5 |
| Have you tried engaging the canter on a circle? That way the horse
will feel off-balanced if he/she/it tries to start on the wrong
lead.
Cindy
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536.7 | Update | USMRM2::PMARKELL | | Fri Apr 22 1988 17:23 | 24 |
| After discussing this with my trainer, and reading these notes I
did two things. First I read Jack Meagher's "Beating Muscle Injuries
in Horses" and found my gelding to be a little tight on the left
side of his body. I also did just troting in large figures of eight
to instill balance, cadence and suppleness. After two weeks of
this (and not cantering) He is loose, limber, cadenced (better)
and more relaxed in his movements and transitions. Now I can ask
him to canter to the right at the circle part of the arena with
the aids and a touch of the dressage whip behind my leg aid to get
him to move out in response to the reinforcement. AND IT WORKS!
He is much more relaxed and sure of his feet. The massage definately
works and allows me to see where problems are occuring while they
are still small.
My guess is that I was asking too much of him at one time and so
he was tensing up and becoming confused. Looking back I see how
important it is to establish a relaxed and working frame of mind
first before increasing training demands.
Thanks for your info.
regards,
Stephanie
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