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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

499.0. "Disinfecting Foaling stall" by SEDJAR::NANCY () Fri Feb 05 1988 17:03

    
    Hi!
    I have another question, (only one of many) being a new horse owner.
    
    In reading books about foaling, they say it is important to disinfect
    the foaling stall. They never mention "when" to do it. How long before 
    my mare's due date do I do this? How long is it effective?
                  
    			Thanks, Nancy
    
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499.1suggestionTPVAX5::JESSEMANMon Feb 08 1988 10:1313
    You could disinfect the stall approximately a week before foaling
    is due. There are a number of methods, all good. The one I use is:
    		1/strip the stall
    		2/get an iodine-based hog pen disinfectant
    		3/use a hand-pump sprayer to apply generously
    		4/let dry
    		5/re-bed the stall, cleaning often
    		6/when foaling looks imminent, use 6 inches of CLEAN
    		  straw in addition to normal bedding. clean often.
    
    You will probably also want to wrap the mares' tail and keep her
    as clean as possible.
499.2ThanksSEDJAR::NANCYWed Feb 10 1988 12:084
    Thanks for the information, sometimes the books seem to leave the
    little details out. 
                        Nancy
    
499.3FOALINGMILVAX::NICKERSONFri Feb 12 1988 11:557
    Be careful...some horses eat straw if they are not used to it.
    
    Good luck!!  I realize many things can happen when a mare has a
    foal but the majority of times things move along quite smoothly.
     We have a 25 year old mare that usually has them on her own...with
    little or not help.
    
499.4Which disinfectants are safe to use?SEDJAR::NANCYMon Feb 15 1988 11:207
    Hi!
    
    What other products could I use to disinfect the stall? Are there
    any I should be warned against not using?
    
    	Thanks,Nancy
    
499.5BewareVOLGA::PORTERThu Feb 18 1988 07:295
    In a magazine last month I read a warning about disinfecting with
    certain chemicals.  The reason behind this was that it led to
    respiratory problems.  I will track down the article and post it.
    
    Karen
499.6Reason for disinfecting stallsGORT::NANCYThu Feb 18 1988 13:3718
    
    I asked the Vet about disinfecting the foaling stall. I'ld like to 
    add what I learned to this note. 
    
    If the barn is new, and no other horse has occupied the stall, and
    your mare hasn't been sick...You're really not going to accomplish
    much by disinfecting the stall...because the bedding, hay, feed
    buckets are all going to contribute to many microorganisms being
    present in the stall. These micro organisms however are not generally
    harmful...it is the one's related to illness that you really want
    to eliminate. So, if you have a barn or stall, where there have
    been sick horses present it is recommended to disinfect the stall.
    
    A solution of lysol mixed as directed in warm water and one ounce
    chlorine bleach/gallon of water is a recommended generic disinfectant
    that is safe for use in horse stalls. 
    						Nancy
    
499.7"Actual"stall preperation and maintenanceSEDJAR::NANCYWed Mar 09 1988 12:00123
    
    Hi! 
    
    Thank you for all the help. This is the way it really happened for
    this foal....
    
    Since she was due around the first week of March, I prepared the
    stall one week prior to the due date (Feb. 29th). I did the following:
    I turned the mare out early in the morning, it was a nice day (sunny)
    and opened the barn doors to let the barn air out. I removed the
    bedding from her stall and swept the floor clean (clay floor). I
    removed her grain and water buckets for cleaning. I mixed the 
    disinfectant the Vet gave me in warm water and sprayed the stall 
    walls and door, insuring good coverage in corners,near the floor,and 
    where the water and grain buckets reside. The wood turned slightly
    darker when wet. I cleaned the buckets while the stall aired out
    and the walls dried. Next I took lime and generously dusted the
    floor. I replaced the bedding (shavings 4-6 inches) and placed the
    clean buckets in the stall. I opened 3 bales of straw (14 x 14 stall)
    and seperated it and distributed it on top of the shavings, (6inches)
    with more straw in the area in which she usually deficates and
    urinates. I let the stall air out all day (door open).When the mare 
    was ready to come in,the walls appeared dry, but.. I put her in an 
    adjacent stall with some hay and water until the evening feeding at
    which time I was sure the walls were totally dry and the stall was
    aired out with little disinfectant smell. I fed her in her own stall
    that evening. Note: I intensively groomed her and picked her feet
    before I returned her to her stall. Also, I put hay in the stall
    before I let her back in and she went for it out of habit...I was
    afraid she would eat alot of straw, she munched on a few pieces
    but prefered her hay...I believe because it was there in the first
    place, she was less tempted to sample the straw. Later on that evening 
    after she tromped down the straw for awhile, I opened another bale
    of hay and added a couple of inches to the stall. I did not have
    to add any more straw to her stall for the remainder of this week.
    
    I felt more comfortable about leaving her at home alone, while I
    went to work, with the stall being prepared...in case of surprise.
    Note: I checked every morning and night for encrouching signs of
    immenent foaling.
    
    Experience with straw:
    Her manure tended to fall into the straw and stay in one place and
    was easy to remove as long as I did not care how much straw I removed.
    In fact, I could remove a whole pile at once...by taking a layer
    of straw with it. The urine was a different matter. The first couple
    of days, I tried to remove it...but I found it extremely difficult
    to do without bringing wet straw and shavings to the surface. It
    seemed that mixing the shavings with the straw was causing the top
    layer to become wet. So I gave up! I let the urine get absorbed
    by the layer of shavings underneath, which kept the top layer of
    straw dry. Her hooves were great...they required very little picking.
    Needless to say, with the urine buildup...I resolved to rebed the
    stall on the weekend. I forgot some things...I put the straw up higher
    on all the walls to try and prevent the foal from hurting itself
    when it attempts to stand. I added more straw to the areas where
    she urinates from other deeply bedded areas of the stall. And I
    also removed her hay rack a couple of weeks prior, to prevent an
    accident with the foal. (The hayrack was hung chest level where
    a foal could possibly hit its head) 
    
    Rebedding the stall:
    Saturday,(6 days later) I put the mare outside and rebedded the
    stall. The dampened straw was a little difficult to remove..because
    the straw does not seperate easily...there was so much...it wasn't
    tromped down into little pieces. I found most of the urine had been
    soaked up by the shavings, but 1-2 inches of straw in some areas
    was totally saturated by urine and needed to be removed. I found
    that straw does not compact readily in the wheelbarrel and requires
    numerous trips to remove it from the stall. The cleanest straw,
    seemingly untouched, near the walls I retained for the rebedding...
    approx. one tenth of the total straw. I found I could put more straw
    in the wheelbarrel if I put the light fluffy cleaner straw on the 
    bottom and the wet heavy stuff on top.
    
    I am glad I rebedded the stall on Saturday, because on Sunday morning
    she had her foal. She delivered the foal into the area of the stall
    where she usually deficates and urinates...so maybe the next time
    I will be a little more enthusiastic about cleaning the urine from
    under the straw...I was lucky this time, that the area was very
    clean!
    
    Cleaning the stall after foaling:
    The area in which the foal was born also seemed to be where the
    water broke (no other visible wet areas). Within the first half
    hour, I put a layer of straw over the wet area instead of trying
    to clean...so they could be left alone as much as possible for 
    bonding. About 4 hours later when the foal was napping, I quietly
    slipped into the stall and removed couple of rakes full of wet
    saturated straw from the same area and put a thick 6-8 inch layer
    of dry straw over the area. However, I didnot attempt to clean the
    entire area...because it would have disrupted the mare and foal
    unnecessarily. This was my strategy for the next day, to keep the
    stall area as dry as possible by adding dry straw, and quietly 
    removing new manure as not to disrupt the mare and foal. The foal
    and mare were turned out the 2nd day, and on the 3rd day again...
    with my husband's supervision, (meanwhile) I stripped the stall
    on the 3rd day and rebedded it quickly...I could not have done this
    as fast if I had not been as experienced from the previous week
    with the straw. I would recommend all first timers learn to deal
    with the straw before the foal is born...I found it extremely helpful.
    I pitched the dryer straw out of the stall into the cement isle
    and removed the wet stuff as fast as possible to the manure pile.
    I put the new shavings in the stall and spread about 3-4 inches
    of straw on top and brought the mare and foal in immediately...so
    as not to tire the foal. I added additional straw after the foal
    and mare were in the stall. Why use straw again? Well the Vet said
    if I could tolerate cleaning it..to use straw for the first week...
    and since I had a couple of bales left over...I decided why not?  
    I finished removing the straw that had been put in the isle, to
    the manure pile. I removed all of the bedding because of the smell
    of the afterbirth on it in general, I did not wish to retain the
    smell of foaling. Now, the stall is clean...and both mare and foal
    are healthy and happy on their 4th day together...so I came to work
    today.
    
    I know this note is lengthy, but maybe it will in some way help
    someone like myself, learn what the "real" world can be like.
                                                                 
    Regards, Nancy
    
    P.S. My mare did not WAX...if I had waited for signs ...it being my 
    first time the stall may not have had straw in it during foaling.
499.8CSC32::M_HOEPNERWed Mar 09 1988 13:486
    
    Ok, ok about the stalls.
    
    What about the baby?  Is it a filly, a colt, an it?  What color?
    
    Don't keep us in suspense.
499.9Congratulations!ZEPPO::FOXA momentary lapse of reason... PFWed Mar 09 1988 15:133
    Congratulations Nancy, but like Mary Jo says, tell us more!!!
    
    Linda