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498.1 | | TPVAX5::JESSEMAN | | Mon Feb 08 1988 08:53 | 12 |
| In almost all cases, a "foal watch" is unnecessary. If the mare
is healthy, has a history of one or more successful foalings, and
the birth area is as clean as possible, chances are the only thing
a foal watch will accomplish is to upset the mare.
However, there is always a slight possibility of problems. Most
of the breeders I know check once an hour, if they decide to check
at all. People that own very expensive horses, or mares prone to
trouble, sometimes hire someone to share the watching.
I mount a watch for first-time mares, but do not otherwise.
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498.2 | some steps towards foal watching.. | RANGLY::BUTTERMAN_HO | | Mon Feb 08 1988 15:14 | 42 |
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Nancy... there no doubt will be many schools of thought on the 'foal
watch' scenario... we all have our little quirks. I agree that
if a mare has a history of successful foalings and the environment
is clean and safe then there is only so much us impatient owners
can do. However, I have a personal thing about being AS responsible
as i can be when it comes to my mares, and the investment that has
been made both financially and in time (time is money)... so here's
what I do..
As her time draws near - and we base our anticipated foaling date
on the LAST date the mare was covered - not the 1st (as you indicated
in your note). My calculations would indicate that your mare would
be due on or around the 13th of March... (11 months/11 days)
Because I'm a 'working mother' I invested in a one way intercomm
so that I can listen to the activities in the barn while I'm at
home, in the house (keeping it my the bed at night). I always start
listening a month or so earlier than the mare is due toget use
to 'normal' noises (sighing/sleeping/snoring/peeing etc...) The
mares outward physical signs will indicate she's drawing near -
her udder will begin to fill, her muscles around the top of her
tail will soften (alot) her vulva will get droopy, and as they get
nearer and nearer all these signs increase. There are many well
done books that could be helpful to you - Blesses are the Broodmares
and Blessed are the Foals are both well done and current. In the
meantime you can let your local vet know that you're expecting a
baby soon just so they know... if you have a neighbor who can just
check in on your mare during the day while you're gone that always
brings some mental relief... and you settle in to play the waiting
game. I have to tell you that HONESTLY - the last 4 foals born
in our barn I got to see BECAUSE - I heard the water break! Honest!
And they were all normal and uneventful and wonderful... There is
nothing like it. And these foals were born at all different times
of the day and night and inbetween.
Sorry I rattled on here.. but I hope that this helps relieve some
of what you're going through.
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498.3 | Be ready for problems | OHOH7::HEWSON | | Tue Feb 09 1988 14:18 | 42 |
| I agree with the last two replies. However, you may not be able
to help much anyway. I had a Thoroughbred mare who had foaled once
before I got her, had her bred and got a beautiful colt. I checked
her as frequently as I could. A couple of hours before she foaled,
she got very unsettled and was pacing her stall a lot, so I figured
the time was close. I was there for that foal. A couple of years
later, I bred the mare again and was looking for the same reactions.
This time she was very slightly colicly on Saturday. I went out
Sat night and checked her at 2am when I got home with nothing.
I got up a 6am to feed and she was quiet but did not want to eat.
I went back to bed until 10am. At that time, I had a filly on the
ground and wet so she was probably born about 9:30. The filly was
fine, but the mare had ruptured her stomach or intestine in foaling.
She lived about another 10 hours until we realized that we could
not save her. We had to borrow a baby bottle from a neighbor to
feed the foal the colostrum which we milked off the mare. We ended
up bottle feeding the filly every 3 hours for a month at which time
we dropped the 3am feeding.
I do not know if I could have done anything even if I had been there.
I have read since that colic shortly before foaling indicates trouble
which might only be taken care of by a C-section. If you should
see colic, I would advise calling a vet or getting the mare to a
horse hospital where a C-section could be done.
This is the part of breeding that no one talks about. It was only
by accident that my husband, who taught at a college then, had just
gotten the spring semester teaching and I was not travelling (in
my Digital high travel job) the month we were bottle feeding every
three hours. On top of all this, when the filly was a year and
a half, we found out she had wobbles. I had her put down when she
was two.
After all this, I have decided that someone else can take the
heartbreak of breeding, I will buy horses from now on.
I guess that I got off the subject of foal watch, but I feel people
should know about what you have to be ready for when things go wrong.
Regards,
Diana
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498.4 | If you need to help, call the vet! | PLANET::NICKERSON | Bob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^) | Wed Feb 10 1988 12:50 | 35 |
| I usually go into foal watch mode for our foaling mares as Holly
does, even if I know that the mare has a history of easy foaling.
I do it mostly just in case but have rarely had to intervene. In
addition to the signs that Holly mentioned, I look for `waxing'
on the mares nipples since I find that to be the best indicator
for the current group of mares that we have. Each is a little
different with all of the mentioned signs including waxing, but
since you have not seen this mare's progression before, you'll have
to assume that she will be close to average. You will notice a
yellowish waxey substance on her nipples usually a week to one day
before foaling. What I look for is the wax to start squeezing out
of the nipple. Usually, the mare will foal within 24 hours of that
event. I check every two hours and look for early signs of labor
or late signs. If you are there to see her water break, you should
expect to see some signs of a foal emerging in a half hour or so.
In any case I would start to worry if the mare is showing labor
for more than an hour. Unless you know what you are doing I would
limit help to calling the vet, who should already have been informed
that the mare will foal soon. Take note of anything unusual that
you can see and include estimations of time (since water broke etc).
If it appears that the mare has had a successful delivery, you can
watch best from outside the stall, keeping the source of light dim,
and keeping quiet by not moving around. Don't help the foal get
up, even if you think it is having a problem. This is a natural
and important step in the foals birth process. It provides
circulation, important respiration steps, and bonding between the
mare and her foal. It may take some time but the foal will eventually
nurse. Just sit back and relax and enjoy the miracle of birth for
what it is.
Good Luck,
Bob
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498.5 | on waxing | RANGLY::BUTTERMAN_HO | | Wed Feb 10 1988 14:06 | 9 |
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WAXING - I had to giggle at myself when I read Bob's reply...
the reason being that my mares have taken it upon themselves to
wax about 30 minutes before delivery! (Well one did @ 8 hrs ahead)
Anyway - Bob's right - waxing is a real good indicator that time
is very close - and it's appearence can be a day to a week in advance.
Oh my blessed mares..... smiles - h
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498.6 | Watch me? Oh no you don't! | MARX::FOX | A momentary lapse of reason... PF | Fri Feb 12 1988 10:06 | 16 |
| BOy, not only did I giggle but I had to really chuckle cuz none
of my mares has ever waxed up before foaling... Come to think of
it, my mares must be really shy because none of them has ever foaled
with observers! As due date approaches and signs start appearing,
we would start 2 hour barn checks and then eventually 1 hour or
1/2 hour barn checks and yet every one of them has foaled either
within that short time (sometimes during meals) or, better yet,
kept us awake for 3 nights in a row and then foaled at 11:00 in
the morning while having a morning nap in the bright sunny pasture!
They sure can be evasive (but I love the "babies"!)
Good luck,
Linda
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498.7 | FOALING | MILVAX::NICKERSON | | Fri Feb 12 1988 12:02 | 10 |
| It is very difficult to say when you should stay home. Some mares
will not foal while you are around; others there is not problem
with.
You need to watch for signs...can't remember them all right now.
Will get the book out on the weekend. Will also get the name of
the book for you.
Good luck!! Try to take it easy.
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498.8 | The more I know, the better I feel. | GORT::NANCY | | Thu Feb 18 1988 13:17 | 7 |
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Thanks to everyone....I think I have the picture now. If anyone
else has suggestions or an experience on the subject, please add
it to this note! Everything helps...and can make a difference...
I loved the suggestion about the monitors. Any bets on when she's
due?
Thanks, Nancy
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498.9 | Murphy was an equestrian... | PLANET::NICKERSON | Bob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^) | Fri Feb 19 1988 15:42 | 6 |
| After seeing more than I can remember, my bet is on the moment when
it is least expected or most incovenient.
Bob
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