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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

484.0. "Wintertime Plumpness" by FSHQOA::SMCKEOWN () Mon Jan 18 1988 12:11

    I have an eight year old Swedish Warmblood who is getting very fat!
     I try to ride every weekend day, but with the below freezing weather,
    and budget time at work, I haven't been able to get out during the
    week.  The woman who owns the place where I board him is very sweet,
    and I hate to get too pushy with her...finding a good home for him
    has taken three years.  She says that he tends to get destructive
    unless she throws more hay to him.  I've suggested that maybe she
    could cut back a little, but knowing her, it will be just a little!
    
    Any suggestions or help?
    
    Thanks.
    
    Sue
    
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484.1Try Horsie ToysNCMWVX::MAYRMon Jan 18 1988 13:1710
    Try giving him some toys to take out his excess energy on.  Several
    that have worked well for me include:  empty plastic gallon milk
    jug suspended from the ceiling; large (10-12" diameter) heavy-duty
    rubber ball left on the floor of the stall.  Mine have gotten
    "destructive" with these toys, but it sure has saved on stalls and
    feed buckets!  One mare even learned to be a fair soccer player!
    
    Good luck,
    Cathie
    
484.2some suggestions...ASD::NAJJARMon Jan 18 1988 13:4020
    Sue,
    
    Does Gus get turned out at all during the day?  That will help by
    letting him get his energy out in the paddock.  Is there someone
    you can trust with him that you can have lunge him a few times a
    week or hand walk him if he can't get turned out?
    
    If he's really getting too fat you should tell the owner that you'd
    like to cut back on his hay because what's happening is that she's,
    in effect, rewarding him for being destructive.  Every time he starts
    pawing or banging (or whatever he does) she tosses him some hay
    so he associates the destructive behavior with food (the owner of
    the barn where I board does this with her own horses as well).
    
    The extra weight will make it a little harder for you to get him
    in shape for the spring anyway.
    
    Good luck,
    Julie
    
484.3Kicker & ExercisingMED::D_SMITHMon Jan 18 1988 15:3219
    Our quarter/morgan was a stall kicker when we first got him.
    I would yell and scream every time he did it. I did notice that
    the only time he kicked was when someone was around. I got the impression 
    that where he was before us, this was a way to get attention. So on 
    that note, I ignored him whenever he did it. Now being 4 months later, 
    he has not kicked at all, almost like he never did it before. 
    
    I also hung a milk jug with some grain in it as a toy or passtime.
    
    Our Thoroughbred was getting a little on the heavy side of things
    too, so I have cut him back on concentrated food (grain) a bit.
    A few weeks later I started lunging daily. He gets 10 minutes both
    directions with few minutes walk before and after and all trot in
    between. Sometimes canter but this is in a large circle (25').
    
    Now he is in much better shape with a strong muscle appearance, and
    his breathing is not as heavy immediatly after a five minute trot.
    His pulse rate has also gone down about 20 beats per minute.
    
484.4Feed less grain... not less hayCSMADM::NICKERSONBob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^)Mon Jan 25 1988 14:0911
    If you are still feeding grain, cut that back not the hay.  Horses
    who can live on hay alone do much better than horses on grain alone.
    If you are not grain feeding, it sounds like your horse doesn't
    get enough exercise.  Be careful that you don't underfeed since
    its lots easier to remove weight than it is to put it on especially
    during winter months.
    
    Regards,
    
    Bob
    
484.5MIST::BACKSTROMWed Jan 27 1988 00:4116
    re: .4
    
    Depends on the type of grain.  Oats will produce a lot of body heat.
    Corn or barley on the other hand will put on weight.  Of course,
    grain should only supplement the hay, since hay provides the 20 - 25
    pounds of bulk the horse is designed to consume daily.
          
    re: .0
    
    Could be that your horse has a mineral deficiency or lacking a vitamin.
    Make sure you have free choice salt and supplement vitamin A.  Check
    for joints swelling, deficiencies seem to manifest themselfs there.
    If the place where your boarding is large, then the hay they ordered
    should have an analysis with the shippment, check it.
    
    Larry.