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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

287.0. "Regional judges?" by NEWVAX::AIKEN (I love Crabbet Arabians! 301-867-1584) Fri Jun 05 1987 16:58

    Any of you Arabian horse showers know anything about the following
    judges:  Francine Dismukes of Luling, TX; Daniel L. Christy III
    of Phoenix, AR; Robert A. Bell of Harvard, MA; Patti A. Felker of
    Camarillo, CA; Don Burt of Purtuguese Bend, CA.  
    
    The first three are judges for the Region 15 Championship Class
    Show July 4-5; the last two judge the Region 15 All-Arabian Show
    July 2-3.  The show is at the Prince George Equestrian Center in
    Upper Marlboro, MD.
    
    I have a yearling filly to show in the Sweepstakes Class and in
    the open show the preceding day.  SCARY!!! Up against all those
    pros!
    
    Merrie
    
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287.1JudgesFDCV01::XXDEV8Fri Jun 05 1987 17:3622
    
    Well I here Daniel Christy is good, the others I dont know much
    about.  Mr Christy will be looking for that real "typy" yearling,
    under good hand.  I have been to Upper Marlboro for several regionals
    and believe me the class your in is an extreemly difficult one to
    judge.  The Egyptions seen to do real well, Illeene usually wins.
    If you want my advice, hire a good handler to take your yearling
    in the ring, it might cost you 30, or 40 but it might be worth it
    if your yearling is good enough. Figure that sweepstakes class is
    worth a couple grand.  If Nick Nickerson is around up there give
    him a chance.  He's a good handler, or even his wife, and the
    judges know them as well... Iknow that sounds political but as
    much as I hate to say it, thats reality.  Good luck, I wish ya
    the best. 
      What kind of yearling do ya'll have?  I noticed you like Crabbet!
    We started out with some Raffles, Rayseen, and Rissilex blood
    ourselves.  We got into the Polish and Crabbet Cross alot. We have
    sold most of our horses, but we still have a double R mare leased
    out.  
    
                                                        David
    
287.2PLANET::NICKERSONBob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^)Fri Jun 05 1987 18:0524
    I can tell you about a few of the people you asked about.  Bob Bell
    is one of our locals who also our regional director and announces
    most of our shows.  While I know him pretty well, I have never seen
    him judge a class but I do know his preferances.  He is deeply into
    National Show Horses, and therefore likes his horses with size and
    motion.  He has done very well around here picking out the right
    horses in his own barn to show in halter.  
    
    Patti Felker judged the Nationals last year and did what I thought
    was a reasonable job.  I look mostly for consistancy in a judge
    since you may not like what they pin but you do know what they are
    looking for.  You just can't figure on an inconsistant judge.  I
    had picked out the horses I liked and my list was very much like
    hers.  I like athletic ability, good legs, good body, and a pretty head
    about in that order.
    
    I've shown under Don Burt before and thought he was OK.  He's not
    someone I'd drive a distance just to show under, but I thought he
    was fair and consistant.
    
    Good luck at Region 15!
    
    Bob
    
287.3nothing like being definite!CSC32::M_HOEPNERFri Jun 05 1987 18:1822
    I can't remember much about Francine so she must not have been too
    bad or overly great.  
    
    Dan Christy judged the VAHA show the last weekend May at Culpeper
    during 1984.  I liked him.  He liked halter horses with type (Imperial
    did very well--but they had by far and away the best halter horses).
    He seemed to be very fair in performance.  
    
    Patti Felker judged in Iowa last year.  She was VERY well received.
    Everyone liked her.  She was WONDERFUL with the equitation kids.
    I don't know much about her halter judging but I suspect she wouldn't
    be too political.
    
    I like showing to Don Burt.  I have always done well showing to
    him as an amateur in performance.  Some people like his halter judging
    and some don't.  I can usually understand what he is doing when
    I sit and watch class after class.  I don't know if he is likely
    to notice halter handlers or not (now that the sweepstakes have
    become just a big deal).
    
    I have shown to Robert Bell but don't remember anything outstanding
    either way.
287.4Thanks and drop by if you're thereNEWVAX::AIKENI love Crabbet Arabians! 301-867-1584Mon Jun 08 1987 14:3236
    Thanks for all your info!
    
    RE .1  David, my yearling is chestnut with four white socks and
    a well-proportioned blaze.  She is by Cedarsamir (Cedarage X KA
    Sabrina by Tsatyr) out of Indian Symphony (*RAS Indian Silver X
    Raffsena).  She is exceptionally graceful.  Her athletic ability,
    which is considerable, could lead to a career in racing -- she's
    very fast!!!!  Her sire is from the Cedardell line of horses, hence
    her name -- Cedars Del Taliah.  Incidentally, a friend of mine,
    who is also an excellent trainer offered to show Taliah.  He is
    Bill Jenkins from Jenkins Arabian Stud in Petersburg, VA.  He had
    a gorgeous gelding, VA Halima Bey (sp), at the Buckeye; placed well
    on the judges' cards, as I recall.
    
    My mares are mostly Raffles/Skowronek.  Many of them have come from
    Silver Run Arabians in Taneytown, MD, owned by Linda Smith.
    Consequently, many of them are actually related -- which makes foal
    predictions happier!  I've bred two of the mares to Linda's stallion,
    Gai Parzada (Gai Parada X Comar Azramira) and got a colt, ZADAS
    MAGIC MUSIC, who is qualified for this year's Regionals but will
    be shown only in the "A" show, out of Indian Symphony; another colt,
    born in Feb 87, out of Silver Run Sahsha.  Both are very nice.
    
    I hear that 81 fillies are registered for the Region 15 Sweepstakes
    class. Probably about 40 will show up??!!
    
    If any of you are going to attend, Magic and Taliah will be stalled
    with Acquibob Arabians of Portsmouth, VA, Bob Hill owner.  John
    Detlie, their trainer, is going to show Magic on Saturday, July
    3; I'm going to show Taliah in the "A" filly class that morning.
    My daughter or I will show Magic in the amateur class Sat. afternoon.
    The sweeps are at 7 p.m. July 4.  Please stop by!!!
    
    merrie 
    
    
287.5TSATYRMILVAX::NICKERSONThu Jun 11 1987 10:2210
    Merrie...
    Bob Bell stands a stallion named Cederdel Amal.
    Also I would love to hear more about the Tsatyr Daughter.  Is she
    still around?  What is the maternal side?
    Presently we have a 25 year old Tsatyr Daughter who just presented
    us with a filly.  Love the line and would like to have more like
    her.
    
    GOOD LUCK AT THE SHOW
    
287.6Congratulations on a filly!!NEWVAX::AIKENI love Crabbet Arabians! 301-867-1584Thu Jun 11 1987 18:4711
    Unfortunately, the Tsatyr daughter,KA Sabrina, died of colic a year
    or two ago.  She was a bautiful gray that went English pleasure;
    a great mover, according to her owner, Kathleen Ojala.  The mare
    had a reaction to Prostaglandin -- does it go bad if it is not used
    right away, or can it be stored for a reasonable period in a frig?
    
    I can't recall Sabrina's dam.  I'll lt you know.
    
    Merrie
   
   
287.7DON BURT ???CHUCKL::BAGGSFri Jul 10 1987 10:344
    JUST CURIOUS HOW YOU ARABIAN PEOPLE LIKED DON BURT FOR A JUDGE !
    HE IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES & I HAVE BEEN TO ONE OF HIS JUDGES 
    CLINICS FOR AHSA (HE SPECIALIZES IN STOCK SEAT EQUITATION)...