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226.1 | Write your congressman | PLANET::NICKERSON | Bob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^) | Mon Mar 16 1987 17:44 | 19 |
| Probably the best way to start is to put pressure on your particular
members of Congress (Senators and Reps). Also a letter to the editor
in local papers goes a long way especially if you ask for letters
to be sent to politicians. PBS usually runs these types of programs
over a period of a month or so, just to give everyone the opportunity
to see it. If someone reads about it in the paper, they may look
for that specific program and when they see it they'll also feel
enraged. I've been reading about the mismanagement from BLM for
a while and its about time that it got more public coverage. The
government in its effort to protect everything and everyone usually
ends up creating a mess of the situation. I really believe that
it is more humane to let nature take its course and thin the herd
than to let a bunch of politicians take matters into their own hands.
(Does the adventures of James Watt ring a bell?) :^(
Regards,
Bob
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226.2 | Bureau of Land Management | PARSEC::SCRAGGS | | Tue Mar 17 1987 09:28 | 42 |
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I don't really want to get into a wicked debate, so I won't
really go on too long.
I worked very closely with the BLM in the Adopt a Horse program
for a several months. Here is what I concluded.
1) BLM is very easy to deal with, very concerned with the welfare
of the animals, the horses are innoculated against diseases, are
kept trimmed.
2) When these horses are placed at stations (meaning waiting for
placement, they are kept in pens yes, but they are handled frequently,
enough so when a person goes to pick up a horse, they don't have
a lunatic to hang on to.
3) The BLM does not put horses down, unless they are sick, injured,
or have serious problems. They are not sent to the killers for
food either.
4) When you adopt a horse or burro from the BLM, you must sign a
written contract binding you to the animal for a period up to
two years, in which you cannot use the horse for any profit, ie.
lessons, leasing, pony rides, trail rides or Sale. After this
lengthy period, you may sell the horse, or use it as you see fit.
The BLM does keep in close contact with the new owner of the horse.
Misuse and mistreatment of any BLM animal is illegal and prosecution
is not soft.
5) If the horses were left on the range, you would find that the
cattle owners would resort back to poaching, running the horses
off cliffs, shooting, poisoning, tripping. These horses may not
have the life of our pets, but at least they're being given a
chance. There are and still will be wild horses, but they must
try to cut the herds down. Maybe eventually they'll try to do
something like this with deer.
If anyone would like more info or a contact from the Bureau of Land
Management, they may contact me thru mail.
-Marianne-
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226.3 | A bit More..... | PARSEC::SCRAGGS | | Tue Mar 17 1987 09:44 | 15 |
| Just a bit more:
I too would give anything to have these wild horses back on the
range living a wonderful, natural life, but I've seen actual
photographs of what happened and still is happening to these
animals by angry cattle owners. Let me tell you, the sight of
a living, breathing animal behind a pen not dying of starvation
and being given a chance, is a lot better than seeing a picture
of an animal with a leg ripped off from a wire, or a whole herd
falling off a cliff by helicopter roundup.
?? I would like to see something better also, but until there are
more suggestions and better ideas, I'll let this one stand.
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226.4 | More in favor of BLM | BOTTLE::MONTVILLE | Sharon Montville | Tue Mar 17 1987 09:59 | 13 |
| Another point in favor of BLM:
In Canon City, Colorado, the site of a prison and also a horse holding
site, there is a unique program sponsored by BLM and the prison. Some
of the prisoners break and train the horses before they are auctioned.
There was a long article on this in the Colorado Springs newspaper
a few months back. I guess one of the major benefits is that this
really helps rehabilitate some of the prisoners. To deal with the
horses successfully, they have to learn behavorial and social skills
that many of them lack. The horses benefit as well; the market
is better for a horse that at least knows basic manners.
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226.5 | Don't take it personally | PLANET::NICKERSON | Bob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^) | Tue Mar 17 1987 12:56 | 13 |
| Sorry about that Marianne! I didn't mean to imply that the people
doing the work in BLM had bad intentions. I only object to a solution
which takes the victims and rearranges their lives for the gain
of the criminals. I would rather see the BLM take all the money
that is required to run the program and use it for prosecution and
levying fines for the people who break the law. The government
solution always seems to be a move/change the victim strategy.
The real issue here is that we are losing our natural resources
in return for very small gains. Why do we have to wait until a
species is on the brink of extinction before we react?
Bob
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226.6 | Not taken personally | PARSEC::SCRAGGS | | Tue Mar 17 1987 13:26 | 8 |
| I didn't want or mean to come across as mad or anything, I do
understand that the system isn't solely (sp) out for the
benefit of the horses, as it was probably was started out to be.
I don't think that anyone should be pocketing funds or living
any more comfortably because of the horses either. I just like
to think that at least in one way they are being given a chance,
where out on the range they wouldn't have a prayer.
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226.7 | Wild Horse Film Worth Seeing | SQM::MURPHY | Is it Friday yet? | Fri Mar 27 1987 09:14 | 53 |
| I saw that film on PBS this past weekend on the wild horses. They
also had a segment on the Colorado State Prison and showed the select
few prisoners working with some of the wild horses to try to tame
them. The horses being sent to the prison for breaking are usually
considered "unadoptable" due to their wildness. It seems the easiest
of the herds to adopt out are the youngest animals. The older ones
become too wild to handle sometimes (probably due to being frightened
half to death during roundups, etc.).
I felt compassion for those animals being kept in holding pens but
I have to agree, it's better they have a chance (though slight)
of adoption and getting cared for while waiting rather than on the
range where the ranchers resent and destroy them. One particular
area was the desert area where wild horses seem to do very well
on limited forage. The main problem, of course, is lack of enough
water for cattle and wild horses. The film mentioned one rancher
in particular whose family before him and he now had to spend millions
of dollars a year to get enough water for his cattle (which the
wild horses drank also). Even those watering holes that he and
the government maintained would sometimes dry up due to droughts.
The remains of wild horses who died of thirst were on that film.
In seeing this film I did come to realize that the BLM has come
a long ways since a few years back. The constant pressures of people
wanting to help preserve the wild horse and not destroy it contributed
to this. One member of the BLM, a rancher of wild mustangs now,
talked about the strain he was breeding to better the herd and induce
more adoptions/sales of the animals. These horses were marked like
the very early horses in America - dark stripes on the legs, black
dorsal stripe down the back, and of a dun or buckskin coloring.
They were of hardy builds too. He'd turn the best of these horses
loose to breed the better stock so that when it was time to cull
the herds, they'd have better luck in adopting these better quality
animals and they were much healthier too.
The film was very interesting and I caught it twice last weekend.
I think taming some of the adult horses to at least be handled by
people - broke to lead with a halter on, handle their feet for trimming
and shoeing, vet work, etc. - is a spendid idea. Many of the people
adopting these animals don't know that much about training horses;
they're just trying to give them a home. As I understood it, $125
was the required amount to pay per animal and you'd sign a contract
promising to keep the animal (with good care) for at least one year.
After that, you could either sell it or keep it.
I hope more programs are started at other prisons perhaps like the
one in Colorado. This not only would assist in placing the wild
horses rounded up, but also gives the inmates the opportunity to
use their time doing something worthwhile. It all evens out on
both sides.
Pat
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