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180.1 | I am curious about it too... | NRADM2::CIAMPAGLIA | | Thu Nov 06 1986 16:06 | 8 |
| I have heard about this new product but have never actually tried
it, I am not sure of the benefit of using the "plastic" shoe over
a regular shoe???
I asked my TB and she had no comment - typical mare...
- jenny -
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180.2 | Another interested party | PLANET::NICKERSON | Bob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^) | Thu Nov 06 1986 17:05 | 16 |
| I've been curious too but haven't been able to find anyone that
has actually used one. I'll ask our farrier next time he's out.
I can think of lots of positive aspects like...
It sounds rather flexible and as such should allow the hoof to flex
much more. I know they seem hard but they do flex without a shoe
on.
Maybe its better on hard surfaces because of the above point and
plastic (or whatever it should be called) should absorb some shock
especially if it is the consistancy of nylon?
Its got to be easier on my stall walls when the old gray mare(s)
feel like kicking up a storm.
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180.3 | More questions on plastic shoes... | GENRAL::KOLLER | | Thu Nov 06 1986 17:11 | 9 |
| Another question regarding plastic shoes is whether they are legal
for some horse activities. In particular, the competitive trail
ride people have restrictions on the width of the web of a horse
shoe. Does anyone knowledge on this?
How are the shoes fitted and shaped? Can't pound theminto shape!
Are they more likely to get ripped off if a horse steps on the front
shoe's tails?
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180.4 | More info from Adams Equipment | CSC32::LIVERMAN | They all must be crazy out there | Thu Nov 06 1986 18:24 | 43 |
| Well, since I asked the question, I'd better tell all I know since it lokks
like there are more questions than answers:
Natural Lite (TM) Horseshoes
Adams Equipment, Inc.
610 S. Jefferson
P.O. Box 489
Cookeville, Tennessee 38501
(800)251-6857
I have some flyers from the company, one side of which is labelled
"Technical Data". I picked my literature up at a feed store outside of
Santa Fe, NM (name and address upon request), but it should be readily
available from Adams. I saw the shoes there, too. They're available in
00, 0 and 1 sizes with no heel- and/or toecalks. Adams sez in their
literature that other sizes and types are in design state (read Phase 1 or
2 for the engi folks here :-)) and will be available later (no FRS date
stated :-)).
Some quotes from the Technical Data side:
The material is cold-formable; hammer it into shape and it will
keep that shape without the usual "memory" exhibited by most
plastics.
Shoes should always be shaped to the hoof before attaching.
Forcing the shoes to fit while nailing will result in residual
stress, which can cause hoof-wall damage.
You must use a nail clinching tool to properly seat the nail
head.
You must leave a nickel's width on the outer edge of shoe. Taper
to flush by third phalynx.
If your horse has never worn a wide-webbed shoe before, the horse
may be sore when trimmed close for conventional shoes. This will
disappear after he adjusts to web width. Normal exercise is
reccommended.
Greg
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180.5 | one farrier's comments | CADZOO::NAJJAR | | Fri Nov 07 1986 10:36 | 16 |
| I did some research on alternatives to steel shoes and sent for
info on the Pegasus company's plastic shoe, and the Natural Lite
shoe from Adams Equip. I sent the info to my blacksmith and he
said 'throw away the stuff from Pegasus; but if I want to try the
Natural Lite he'd be interested.' He is very skeptical about these
alternatives that keep coming up, and he said that the only one
he thought might be worth it is the Natural Lite. It probably would
be expensive though, because the shoes themselves are about $40.00
then you have to pay the farrier his usual fee for trimming and
putting the shoes on etc. I don't know how they'd be in the winter
since I either put borium on the shoes or take them off the hind
feet, and put pads in the front in either case. The only draw back
is if your horse needs special or corrective shoeing, I don't think
they have Natural Lite shoes for that yet.
- Julie -
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180.6 | Caution! Slippery when wet. | PLANET::NICKERSON | Bob Nickerson DTN 282-1663 :^) | Mon Nov 10 1986 18:23 | 10 |
| I asked our farrier (Chip Orcutt) about these shoes and whether
he has tried any. He has only used one type that is clear with
a blue liner on the inside portion of the shoe. His only comment
was that while they seem to work fairly well on rough surface or
in sand, he has seen a horse on wet grass that looked like he was
on ice with smooth plates. Given the cost mentioned, they would
have to do lots more than the shoes I currently use.
Bob
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180.7 | Not slippery enough? | CADCAM::NAJJAR | | Tue Nov 11 1986 12:07 | 12 |
| The shoes that Bob mentioned sound like the Pegasus shoes. They
usually have ads in Equus and other magazines, and they have a blue
plastic surface that covers most of the horse's sole. The Natural
Lite shoes fit like steel shoes, but are a bit wider. Since the
Natural Lite shoes are made of rubber (not plastic like the Pegasus
shoes), they probably would not slip as much - certainly not more
than steel shoes would, and they would probably be safer on a cement
floor barn. How many times have you seen a horse with borium slip
on the cement and make sparks? The only concern I would have is
that they may have too much grip, and not allow the horse's feet
to 'slide' the small amount that they do when he is moving (or landing
from a jump or some of the western movements, etc.)
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180.8 | Tread lightly.. | KERNEL::PEWTER | | Tue Nov 15 1988 12:27 | 12 |
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The first I have seen of these in the UK was in a TV news item.
Plastic shoes that are glued on are being used to correct leg problems.
In this particular instance a foal, bred to be a top racer, had
a left leg that was bent. The farrier cut out the shoe to shape,
and slightly overlapping on the inside. This will apparently straighten
the leg out and they expect the foal to be fit enough to compete
as a yearling. I don't know what they are made of and whether they
are meant just for remedial use, but it looked interesting.
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180.9 | Western Horseman Article | GENRAL::BOURBEAU | | Fri Nov 18 1988 16:25 | 11 |
| See the latest issue of Western Horseman. There's a great article
on the glue-on plastic shoes. They've used them on a race horse
who kicks his stall door so hard that he tore his shoes off repeatedly.
There wasn't enough hoof wall left to use nails, so they glued the
plastic shoes on. These shoes took the punishment of the kicking,and
outlasted the steel shoes. The horse became sound, and continued
to train and race. The glue-ons take quite a while to apply properly,
and are pretty expensive.
George
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