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58.1 | conditioning | SOUSA::MJOHNSON | | Mon May 12 1986 13:50 | 66 |
| I suggest hand walking the horse daily for 2 weeks before you even
consider asking him to trot on a lounge line. Just as a precaution --
and especially since he's been confined to a stall for the past year.
If he's getting turned out now he'll be toning himself naturally. But a
horse that's been confined to a stall for any length of time with out
exercise has been kept in an unnatural state.
I'm so happy that you are giving him his freedom by showing him the
outdoor life! I am a firm believer of turning out horses daily. If
turnout is not possible, then the horse should be handwalked/and or
ridden daily.
Beware of 'over lounging him.' I believe in lounging young horses
to teach them voice commands, discipline, and natural rhythm. But
you have to remember when a horse has no muscling he's not going to
be bending properly. By forcing a horse to trot around a circle completely
bent wrong, you may unbalance him in such a way to strain his muscles.
The worst case might be to strain a tendon.
In my opinion, don't use side reins or draw reins to force the horse to
bend on a circle either -- especially with a green horse. I know of a girl
who put side reins on her New Zealand imported warmblood and he reared over
backwards and broke his neck. Amazingly she still uses side reins! In my
opinion, draw reins are the worst though. They force the horse to bend
longitudinally. I believe they also train a horse to remain forever 'behind
the bit.'
If your horse is getting turned out daily then there's really no reason
why you can't begin working on saddle/bridle training him right away.
Just walk walk walk!! You can't tear muscles walking.
When the horse has completed 2 weeks of daily brisk walking, he is
ready to begin short, frequent trots. The main purpose of all the walking is
to harden his tendons. You're not working on his wind until you begin
trotting. Eventually you start building up the trotting, increasing the
duration of your trots and decreasing the duration of your walks. When
you're up to trotting 5 minutes and walking 2, off and on, then you're ready
for canter work.
You should try to do all of your conditioning work going up and down
hills. Don't trot on tar roads -- right away anyways. The English do it,
but I wouldn't risk it with my own horse.
I've given you a highly abbreviated version of my spring conditioning
format. As a rule, it takes 6-8 weeks to condition a horse for an event
(It takes longer if the horse was confined to a stall). I've known
people who rushed through the boring 'walk walk walk' period and later dealt
with a bowed tendon. Their horses wind was fine, but their tendons had not
been hardened up enough in the beginning.
Have fun !
-Melinda
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58.2 | Take it slow and steady | TOMB::BEAUDET | Tom Beaudet | Mon May 12 1986 14:06 | 20 |
| I agree with the walking and TAKE YOUR TIME!
We took a pony in that was nearly starved and had very little muscle.
It took a LONG time to build it back up. Mostly because of nutritional
problems to over come. The turning out was probably on of the best
things for her. We aslo did daily walks but kept them to a minimum
untill she has some good "tone" on what little muscle she had.
When your putting muscle on animals in general remember that they
will feel sore after working just like you do! Think how you feel
when you've been laid up sick for a while. It take time to get back
into shape.
As part of our walking we added a small hill to the routine each
day after she was "comfortable" with the regular walk.
Take it slow and with patience.
/tb/
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58.3 | | PBSVAX::WILPOLT | | Mon May 12 1986 20:34 | 33 |
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A "lounge line"? I laughed picturing a string of recliners (you
know-- "Dad's TV chair") opened flat and lined up so you could walk
the horse over them, all in a circle! I think you mean "longe".
I always wanted to spell it "lunge", since that's how most people
pronounce it, but lunging is pretty much the opposite of what you're
teaching a horse on a longe!
I agree with both of the previous replies. It takes more patience
to go slowly, especially because it's one of those things that you
don't really appreciate until one time you do it wrong. Better
to be safe than sorry.
It sounded like your friend would not be concerned (for now) with
asking the horse to bend and do other work that you could start
doing now on the longe line. That's just fine; you can condition
the horse reasonably well without any additional stuff.
But I'd like to reply to Melinda's comment on side reins. Like
so many other tools, side reins can be helpful when used properly.
I've been learning about them recently, since I'm doing lots of
longing with Fiddler, under instruction. Because rearing IS a
possibility, there are a couple of important precautions: First,
always start with completely loose side reins, and only shorten
them gradually, especially on a new horse. Second, be sure that
the side reins have some give in them, such as a rubber donut or
elastic. I think you have to be pretty certain that the horse has
accepted the longer side reins before you do any shortening; I
can imagine that that might take several days. In any case, using
such equipment can be very positive-- Olympic level trainers don't
recommend them just for kicks! I suggest that people interested in
side reins or draw reins be careful to get instruction from other
cautious but experienced trainers before trying them out at home.
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58.4 | Condition the back too!!! | ZEPPO::FOX | | Tue May 13 1986 13:53 | 16 |
| Not only is conditioning the horse by longeing and hand-walking
a consideration but also remember that the back must be conditioned
before someone starts riding the horse. Once the horse is at a
point where he is can be longed at the walk and the trot for a
reasonable amount of time, it is a good idea to start longing him
with the saddle on his back (starting with a short period of time)
and increasing the amount of time he is worked with the saddle on
while being longed. Any horse which has not been used for awhile
will probably need its back muscles conditioned again just like
the rest of the body but especially young horses who have never
had their backs used.
Good luck with your new horse!
Linda
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58.5 | You're on the right track | MERIDN::IZZO | | Thu May 15 1986 11:43 | 22 |
| I would also like to comment on Melinda's feelings towards draw
reins and side reins. They are a VERY useful tool in the right
hands and under the right conditions. Basic theory behind them
is to teach balance/proper head carriage. CAUTION: watch the horse
before running out to buy side reins/draw reins! If he/she's not
tripping over his/her nose, or got it stuck in the air, you won't
need them if you have kind/responsive hands. Also beware of
conformation, not all horses have the conformation to carry their
heads they way "proper head carriage" is so often pictured. As a
judge, I take a horse's conformation into account when I look at
head set.
As far as balance goes, bear with his clutsy stages. Balance comes
with time (sorry, good things DO come to those who wait). Lots
of circles! Trail riding is good too...don't let all work seem
like work!
Best of luck to you and your friend...sounds like you're thinking
things through and have the patience to deal with the difficulties
you'll undoubtedly encounter. Keep us posted as to progress!
Ann
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58.6 | Vet Check results | ATLAST::KELLY | | Wed May 28 1986 18:07 | 12 |
| Hi
I am the fellow who purchased the Appaloosa. I just wanted
to let you know that the horse did indeed vet check sound.
I am currently working him on a longe until his muscle tone
is better and he recovers from being gelded. The vet
recommended that I work him pretty hard after the operation,
and he seems to be responding well to it.
Thank you all for your advice.
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58.7 | Strengthen the Hind Quarters | DEMON::RHODAN::DIROCCO | | Mon May 20 1991 14:27 | 24 |
| My mare has developed a 'hitching' in her left hind leg. Well, I should
say, she's had a tendancy towards it all her life (from what I'm told),
but would always work out of it, usually after about 10 minutes of walk
and trot...(I've been riding her for 5 years).
Recently, she came down with a lameness in her left front, which the
vet x-rayed and told me was a very small seperation in her hoof wall
at the white line.
Well, she was off work for about 3.5 weeks, (she is usually ridden 4
to 5 days a week thru winter) and now, the hitching has returned
and pops up throughout our ride, usually during more collected work.
Does anyone out there have any suggestions on strengthening her hind
end? Excersises and the like? She was fine all winter and this is
discouraging since it brings our scores down, and has an effect on
collection. We are currently schooling 2nd level and some 3rd level
movements. Plus, we do not think it is string-halt.
sigh....
thanks,
Deb
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58.8 | 3 POSSIBILITIES | ASABET::NICKERSON | KATHIE NICKERSON 223-2025 | Mon May 20 1991 14:46 | 10 |
| Have you had both a masseuse (sp?) and/or a chiropractor look at her?
Both have done wonders on a hitch that one of our show horses had.
We went the vet route and there was no change as he couldn't find
anything wrong with her; however, I would start with the vet first. Dr
Harvey in Munson, Ma is excellent with legs.
Good luck.
Kathie
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58.9 | Massage...ahhhh! | DEMON::RHODAN::DIROCCO | | Mon May 20 1991 15:08 | 13 |
| I did have the vet look at it. He (Dr. Orcutt, who has known her for
a while) did not know what it could be. He thought the front end
thing could have triggered the hitching because she may have been
compensating...
I have thought about the masseuse, but was not sure..perhaps since
my vet has already looked at her, massage couldn't hurt.
Thanks, at least I know my mare's not the only one with this type
of thing out there....
Deb
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58.10 | | VMSSPT::PAANANEN | | Mon May 20 1991 15:18 | 15 |
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Here's another vote for muscle therapy.
I had a masseur (they call them Equine Muscle Therapists now!)
work on my horse because she was abnormally stiff (not definably
lame) and *very* cranky. It was like a wonder cure. My horse
literally jumped for joy afterwards. Her attitude is great and
she hasn't been stiff since.
You might also want to look at chiropractic too. It seems like a
lot of money at the time, but most problems are correctable in
one session, and if you're losing a lot of riding time, that's
costing you a lot more.
Kiirja
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58.11 | Hitch or miss?! | DEMON::RHODAN::DIROCCO | | Mon May 20 1991 15:55 | 9 |
| The frustrating thing is, she is not lame in any way, actually,
it is hard to feel the hitching when she's doing it. (I had a
tape of a test and it showed up half way through the test.) So,
I'm not missing any riding time because of it.
Thanks for the replies, my instructor knows a masseuse, I'm going
to give him a call and we'll take it from there.
Deb
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