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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

33.0. "Horse Magazines/Newspapers" by --UnknownUser-- () Mon Apr 14 1986 09:44

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33.1Horsey ReadingZEPPO::FOXMon Apr 14 1986 10:375
    A decent all-around newspaper is the Horseman's Yankee Pedlar. 
    It is published once a month and has listings for most going-ons
    in New England.  Practical Horseman is another magazine which is
    pretty good as is Equus.  These magazines can generally be bought
    at decent magazine shops which carry horse magazines.
33.2 RECOMMENDED READINGPFLOYD::CATANIAMon Jun 09 1986 16:2010
    	I can highly recommend two publications:
    
    ENGLISH: The Practical Horseman
    
    WESTERN: The Performance Horseman
    
    Of course people's opinions are only that. Some of you may have
    read either or both and may differ with my recommendations, but
    I'm happy with the articles, editorials, and tips on training ,shoeing
    medical, trailering, etc. as represented in both these publications.
33.3MORE GOOD MAGAZINES:JACOB::BARNESThu Jun 12 1986 22:2515
    
    
         I also recommend The Practical Horseman and The Performance
    Horseman.  I also suggest Horse and Rider.  This magazine is mainly
    Western, but I ride English and find many helpful hints and tidbits
    of informaton in it.  The same goes for Horse and Horseman.  I have
    subscribed to Horseplay, and I did not get any of the problems
    previously mentioned.  I don't especially like the magazine because
    it deals with big-time riders and international events when I want
    more of a day-to-day, everyday mag+azine.  But for some people it
    is ideal.  Sorry I am so late in replying.  I hope your'e still
    out there watching for replies...
           				-A Horse Lover
    
    
33.4EQUUS #1WHOARU::NAJJARWed Aug 13 1986 12:247
    EQUUS receives my vote for the best Equine publication.  I've
    been receiving it since day one, and its articles are written
    by experienced and quality people.  If you're only going to
    subscribe to one magazine this is it.  I've had subscriptions
    to dozens of other "horsey" magazines, and they all gear themselves
    to a particular style of riding or sport.  Equus contains up
    to date medical info as well as training/riding tips etc.
33.5HorseplayNAC::SCHLENERMon Dec 29 1986 12:298
    I recommend Horseplay if you're interrested in English riding since
    that is what they concentrate on. It's a shame someone did have
    problems with their subscription. So far I have had none.
    Horseplay deals with competition - dressage, show jumping and 3
    day events. They've even had articles on driving.
    If you want more info, call me at (DTN) 226-7781 or write.
    Cindy
    
33.6Magazine poll VIA::SNOWThu Aug 24 1989 09:2513
Ok I'm taking a poll...

If you could only get one horsey magazine (that's me) which one would you want?
The three I've been thinking of are Horseplay, Practical Horseman, and Equus.
(Feel free to add your favorite.)  

My background:  I own my own horse; ride him dressage (boarded out), so 
DRESSAGE is my #1 interest.  SHOWJUMPING and EVENTING are secondary interests.
(Little interest in Western and driving, sorry.) 

What's your vote?

janet. 
33.7EQUUSASABET::NICKERSONThu Aug 24 1989 09:473
    EQUUS BY FAR...my opinion only.
    Kathie
    
33.8EQUUSEPIK::DANIThu Aug 24 1989 10:0011
I get both Equus and Practical Horsemen...

If i could only get one it's be Equus.  Equus has more general knowlege that
I don't have another source for.  If you have a good instructor, and only 
time and $ for one magazine, I'd get Equus.

If you don't have an instructor I think it's depends on what you are least 
knowlegeable in...

Dani
33.9my opinion..LEVADE::DAVIDSONThu Aug 24 1989 10:059

	Practical Horseman.  

	However, isn't there a Dressage specific publication??  I seem to 
	recall seeing such a beast at a tack store...

					-Caroline

33.10If?THRSHR::DINGEEThis isn't a rehearsal, you know.Thu Aug 24 1989 10:395
    
    	I *DO* only get one equine magazine...and it's EQUUS. 
    
    	-julie
    
33.11Equus fanPTOMV6::PETHMy kids are horsesThu Aug 24 1989 10:597
    Another vote for Equus. Regardless of how you choose to ride they
    provide the most current info. about horses in general. I have
    learned so much about vaccines, worming and how to handle and indentify
    problems early I feel its the best money I have ever spent on my
    horses.
    Sandy
    
33.12MEIS::SCRAGGSThu Aug 24 1989 11:357
    I vote for Equus also. I get a bunch of different ones and never seem 
    to read them. I won't subscribe to Performance or Practical Horseman 
    again, those are the ones I never seem to bother reading, what a waste.
    Dressage and CT is a good one also.
    
    Marianne
    
33.13Another for EquusDELNI::KEIRANThu Aug 24 1989 11:457
    I vote for Equus too.  I was getting both Practical Horseman and Equus
    at one time, and when Practical Horseman ran out I never renewed it. 
    Then they started calling my house to find out why I didn't renew but
    I was never there to take the calls.  After at least 10 tries they
    finally gave up.  My interests range through all phases of horses from
    racing to dressage and I feel that Equus provides well varied articles
    on all phases.
33.14COGITO::HARRISThu Aug 24 1989 13:1911
    Another vote for Equus--excellent articles on horsekeeping, not
    just riding. Practical Horseman devotes a lot of space to riding
    "stars" and I don't find that relevent to my needs.
    
    Although I like Practical Horseman, I'm threatening to cancel my
    subscription unless they stop mailing the magazine in those stupid
    plastic bags.  It's unnecessary trash our overflowing landfills don't
    need.
    
    -Andrea- 
    
33.15Equus here, tooNOBOZO::GOODNOWThu Aug 24 1989 13:4710
    
    Equus here, too.  I used to get Practical Horseman, but I do get
    tired of reading endlessly about the riding "stars" - in fact, it
    can get a little discouraging!  
    
    A lot more useful knowledge in Equus.  I always learn something new
    when I pick it up.
    
    Amy
    
33.16Chronicle of the HorseSKELTN::FOXHow do YOU spell relief? VACATION!Thu Aug 24 1989 14:017
    And no one mentioned "The Chronicle of the Horse?" This a weekly
    publication which is expensive but it always has sections on dressage,
    combined training, horse shows, racing over fences, hunting, etc. plus
    articles by vets, blacksmiths and best of all, Cooky McClung who writes
    everyday happenstances which have left me with more than a few sore
    ribs from laughing...
    
33.17MEIS::SCRAGGSThu Aug 24 1989 14:275
    Regarding the Chronicle, does anyone know where you can buy it? I 
    seem to only see them once every so often...
    
    Marianne
    
33.18Address & Subscription FeeAIPERS::GOLDMANThu Aug 24 1989 15:008
    I get the Yankee Pedlar. But after reading this NOTE I would also
    like to subscribe to EQUIS.  Can somebody post their address and
    subscription fee?
    
    Thanks!
    
    Susan
    
33.19VIA::SNOWThu Aug 24 1989 16:1215
After hearing all the good things I think I'll go with EQUUS too.  thanks for 
all your opinions.  

Susan--
I'll bring the address tomorrow.  I almost cut my chances for subscribing to
EQUUS bec. I sent back an offer where they would send me one trial copy and
then bill me; if I decided not to subscribe I could write cancel on it.  Well,
they sent me the bill before the trial copy!  I was sort of mad 'cuz they 
were trying to put one over on me I thought!  but before I sent back the
bill with a nasty letter the trial copy arrived.  So I'm glad I got all
the opinions from you guys.

thanks!

janet.
33.20Hey, Me too!LDP::FAYESCHEW OBFUSCATIONFri Aug 25 1989 10:1915
    Almost the exact same thing happened to me with Practical Horseman.
    They offered a FREE trial copy, and the chance to subscribe.
    Well, I got a BILL for my SUBSCRIPTION before I ever received
    ANY copy of the magazine. And I NEVER did receive any copy!
    
    I attached a note to the bill and told them what to do with
    their offer, and you know it took MONTHS to get it straightened
    out - they INSISTED I OWED them MONEY!!  And I never got a 
    single issue!!
    
    I would never subscribe to them based on this - but I would
    say to overlook any near confusion with EQUUS because it really 
    is the best out there!
    
    RF
33.21"Horse of Course"VIDEO::WALTHERCarpe DiemFri Aug 25 1989 10:336
    Does anyone remember "Horse of Course" magazine, based somewhere in
    Southern New Hampshire? I recall being a heartbroken teenager when the
    magazine stopped publication (I think the editor had a stroke); any
    chance they may have started up again?
    
    	Ellen
33.22Equus recruits new writer..!!!WEDOIT::NANCYFri Aug 25 1989 11:0515
    
    I would choose Equus. why? Well, the ARABIAN EXPRESS magazine had
    really good articles on the mechanics of how horses work...the writer
    person DEB something or other...I heard is going to now be writing
    for EQUUS...if she maintains the same quality you will benefit a
    great deal (no matter what style of riding you choose to do) by
    understanding the technical aspects of horse movement. She makes
    things highly understandable and her drawings are great. I am
    subscribing to EQUUS just for her articles. I have some backcopies
    of equus and find they write about subjects that directly relate
    to the horse rather than the rider. It is a very worthwhile magazine
    to subscribe to.
    
    		Nancy
    
33.23exANYWAY::SCRAGGSFri Aug 25 1989 11:217
    re: Horse of Course Magazine, I *think* the magazine was sold 
    to the Practical/Performance Horse people...never to be recreated.
    They own all rights to it lock stock and barrel.. Its unfortunate. I
    liked that one alot better than these two...
    
    Marianne
    
33.24Fond memoryPTOMV6::PETHMy kids are horsesFri Aug 25 1989 11:366
    As a long time subscriber to Horse of Course (I still have every
    one I ever got) the editor indeed had health problems so they had
    to stop suddenly. The remainder of my subcription was given to Equus
    which was my introduction to them.
    Sandy
    
33.25COGITO::HARRISFri Aug 25 1989 12:579
    Wasn't Horse of Course the one with the Stablemate of the Month?
    I used to devour every issue when I was a teenager.
    
    Does anyone remember Classic? It was a short-lived (late 1970s), very
    expensive horse magazine. The ads were for Hermes, Rolls Royces,
    crystal, and so forth.  It was a very slick magazine, but it must
    have been too narrowly targetted to appeal to mainstream horse people.
    
    -Andrea- 
33.26Yup, I remember ClassicCIMNET::BUSHMANFri Aug 25 1989 13:367
    I have every issue of Classic stashed away in my parents attic!  That
    was a wonderful magazine - sort of the Town & Country of the horse
    magazines...  I still recall one image of a spectacular Peruvian Paso
    being ridden by someone holding a tray and wine glass.  There were also
    a couple of "erotic" horse photo layouts...  had forgotten about
    those... 
    		- Kate
33.27WMOIS::PORTERFri Aug 25 1989 13:503
    Another vote for EQUUS
    
    Karen
33.28mainly subscriptionSKELTN::FOXHow do YOU spell relief? VACATION!Fri Aug 25 1989 14:589
    Hi Marianne,
    
    The Chronicle of the Horse is found only at a few tack shops like Dover
    Saddlery in Wellesley, MA and I get mine through a subscription. It is
    about $35.00 per year U.S. and about $50.00 per year foreign.
    
    If anyone is interested in subscribing to it, I'll try to remember to
    bring in the address.
    
33.29EQUUS addressVIA::SNOWFri Aug 25 1989 16:2611
re.14
here is the address for EQUUS:
		EQUUS
		Subscription Department
		PO Box 50183
		Boulder, CO  80321-0183
Cost is $29.95 for 2 years or $19.95 for 1 year (this is on a card in the
magazine).  

thanks again for all the opinions.
janet.
33.30"Doc" GreenTHRSHR::DINGEEThis isn't a rehearsal, you know.Fri Aug 25 1989 16:3317
    
    Re: .17, .20 et al - HORSE OF COURSE
    
    	Just fyi - the editor Russ "Doc" Green, is my next door
    	neighbor. He did indeed have myriad health problems, but is
    	very active again. He started a new magazine about a year
    	ago, COUNTRY MARKETPLACE, which is really fun - info on all
    	shops and places of "shopping" interest in the New England
    	area. Which, incidentally, he just sold!! So maybe this is
    	a pattern of his.
    
    	At any rate, he and his wife have 2 palamino quarterhorses (she's
    	the one who does the work and rides them), ages 24 and 27 which
    	field-bred last fall and which had a beautiful little foal this
    	spring! So I spend a lot of time checking up on that baby...!
    
    	-julie
33.31CSC32::M_HOEPNERremember to drain the swamp...Mon Aug 28 1989 10:135
    
    Definitely Chronicle of the Horse.
    
    The best way I know of to keep in touch with the real world when living
    in the frontiers of Colorado.
33.32Address for subscription - Chronicle of the HorseSTNDUP::FOXHow do YOU spell relief? VACATION!Fri Sep 01 1989 14:419
I finally remembered to bring in the address for the Chronicle:

6 months - $22.00
1 year   - $38.50
2 years  - $70.00

The Chronicle of the Horse
Post Office Box 46
Middleburg, VA 22117-9889
33.33magazinesUSWAV1::COBURNWed Sep 06 1989 10:142
    Practical Horseman.
    
33.34My ChoicesPENUTS::MADAVISThu Jun 07 1990 16:3513
    Just an update.  I used to get Practical Horseman, yet when the
    slip can to renew, the price had jumped $5.00 per year!  I said
    later to that kind of price hike!  It just so happened that I 
    received an offer in the mail for EQUUS with in a week of the 
    Practical Horseman renewal form.  For 22.00 I can get two years
    of EQUUS.  Of course I went for it.  I had received the first
    issues of EQUUS when it started many years ago.  I wish I had
    kept them.  Oh well.
    
    I know I will enjoy many months of EQUUS, but I won't mind getting
    HorsePlay too.  That is a fun magazine that keeps one in touch with
    our international riders.  
    
33.35USA help neededKERNEL::CHEWTERMon Feb 04 1991 09:3515
    
    Can anyone in USA help me?
    
    Is there a magazine available over there called - ?????? ROUNDABOUT.
    I beleive it is a horsey mag?
    
    I am interested because in one of the editions there was a article
    about PENARTH SINTON GAMBLE, a Welsh Section D (from the UK). He is 
    the Sire to one of my horses.
    
    If anyone can give me any details, or even a copy I would be grateful.
    
    Regards
    
    Jayne Chewter
33.36Equine Art MagazineDECWET::JDADDAMIOFri Oct 11 1991 17:5634
    Speaking of equine art, have you heard about the magazine "Equine
    Images"? It's a quarterly magazine dedicated to equine art. 
    
    Most of the articles are profiles of contemporary artists.
    Occassionally they have articles on historical artists. For example, the 
    current issue has an article on Frederic Remington. Other articles in
    the Fall 1991 issue include articles about:
    Heather St Clair Davis - Vermont painter, rider and dressage judge
    Jan Woods - sculptress
    Brooke Dickinson - Polo
    Arabians in Art - The Oldest Purebred Horse
    
    
    The artists written about in  "Equine Images" do not all use the same 
    equine subjects or even the same medium. Abstracts, rocking horses,
    racing, donkeys, mules, draft horses, cowboys, indians, fox hunters,
    sculptures. Anything to do with horses and their relatives.
    The ads alone are worth getting a copy. All kinds of art editions in prints,
    sculptures etc priced from $35 to $3,500
    
    Jan got me a subscription two years ago as a Christmas present and I
    have really enjoyed it. They have been around for 5 years(since 1986)
    and appear to be stable in staff, etc
    
    Equine Images
    PO Box 916
    900 Central Ave
    FT Dodge IA 50501
    
    $19.95 for 1 year subscription (4 issues)
    $7.50  for a single copy.
    
    Maybe they would send a complimentary copy if you wrote and said you
    were considering subscribing. (Don't count on it though)
33.37Great MagazineMOPUS::ROBERTSMon Oct 14 1991 10:147
    I just started a subscription to this.  Got two issues so far, and they
    are *great*.  Current issue has a feature about Heather St.Clair-Davis,
    a Vermont-based artist (and horse breeder) whose work I have always
    loved.  I'm an artist myself, and would *love* to be able to paint as
    well as she does.
    
    -ellie
33.38Frustrated with EQUUS!DECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Mon Nov 18 1991 20:0734
    Is anybody else out there as fed up with EQUUS as I am? We have
    subscribed to that magazine since the beginning and have kept EVERY
    issue. But, I feel that they have changed their originial focus (equine
    health care) and put out a lot of wimpy articles lately on training or
    other topics.
    
    By wimpy articles, I mean those that go on for 5-6 pages and don't say
    anything. Like one I read recently about sour horses. It goes on and on
    about how horses get sour and how it's hard to tell a sour horse from
    one who is just plain ugly in temperament. Then, it says they are going
    to tell you how to re-hab such a horse. But, all they say is:
    thoroughly vet-check the horse for physical problems and if you don't
    find any physical problems, give it time off or give it a new job in life! 
    I felt that they were stretching/padding the article just to fill up
    space in the magazine,
    
    Or the one they had a few months back about whether mares or geldings
    were better horses for the average horseperson. They went off and
    scored different things like athletic ability, temperament, longevity, 
    etc. They decided that it was a TIE and that the choice was entirely 
    personal preference! Makes you kind of feel that they rigged the 
    categories so they wouldn't have to make a decision and risk offending 
    anyone! Why bother writing such an article????
    
    And then there are Dr Deb Bennet's articles on conformation. I actually 
    enjoy her articles except that they are accompanied by poor photos.
    The photos are supposed to support her analysis of the horse's 
    conformation. The problem is that the photos are so inadequate that you 
    can't see what she's talking about. One case that I remember vividly
    was the time she was talking about leg structure and mentioned something 
    about the feet of one horse. When I looked at the picture, you couldn't 
    even see the feet!
    
    John
33.39LEVADE::DAVIDSONTue Nov 19 1991 07:309
re: EQUUS 
	ME TOO!  I also detest articles that within a page get scattered
      through out the magazine.  I just don't have the patience to keep
      flipping pages to see the diagrams and read the text.  I was also
      disappointed with the pictures for the conformation article.

				-Caroline

33.40XLIB::PAANANENTue Nov 19 1991 09:4122
 Me three! :^)

 I cancelled Equus a year ago after subscribing for three years. Why?

 First, several statements made by Deb Bennett in her articles about 
 certain breeds (no, not just Arabs, but including them) were blatantly 
 FALSE. She is supposed to be an expert, and doesn't double check her 
 facts. Unfortunately, many people will believe her because of her status.

 Secondly, the quality of the articles has gone WAY down. I can see where 
 they might be starved for new material to cover after so many years,
 but they would be better off reprinting copies of their best older 
 articles, with updates, rather than printing some of the trash they 
 have now. 

 I find that for training info, Dressage & CT and Practical Horseman 
 are better. (Though not perfect...with the myriad of opinions in the
 horse world, what could be? ;^) ) For health info, I'd get a good book, 
 though I've seen some reasonably good articles in Horse Care 
 (I think that's it) magazine.

33.41EQUUS, Dr Deb and Dresaage & CTDECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Tue Nov 19 1991 17:1044
    I know what you mean about Dr Deb's occassional false statements.
    Maybe abour 8 years ago, she wrote a series of 3 articles in EQUUS on how 
    the ancient horses influenced today's breeds through evolution. Well, in 
    one of those she said something like "The Morgan became a breed when
    UVM did 'something' in 1947" which is totally un-factual. The American
    Morgan Horse Registry(AMHR) was founded in 1899. The Vermont
    Agricultural College(Later incorporated into UVM) took over the US
    Morgan Farm in 1951-52. The significant thing that happened in 1947 was 
    that AMHR closed its registry. Before 1947, one could register foals from
    an unregistered parent of Morgan lineage if the other parent was
    registered. Sort of like the AQHA's Appendix registrations today. 
    After 1947, both parents had to be registered for the foal
    to be eligible for registration. So, that's a good example of where Dr Deb 
    was way off base. 
    
    Since that booboo, I have ignored Dr Deb's breed specific comments and
    just paid attention to her comments in areas where she really does know
    something.
    
    I also agree that the training articles in Dressage & CT are pretty
    good(usually but like .46 said, with the diversity of opinions you can't
    agree with all of them!). There, you get international people like Egon Von
    Neindorff, Erik Herbermann, and until their deaths, Van Schaik and De
    Szinay(sp?). Now, I admit to some prejudice in naming those folks. We
    studied with VS for over 10 years. VS and Von Neindorff were buddies
    and respected each others theories and opinions. Herbermann was Von
    Neindorff's student. So, it should come as no surprise that I think their 
    articles are pretty good. (I confess that I sometimes debated with VS
    when I thought he was incorrect. See, we can't even agree with our
    COACHES much less all magazines articles!)
    
    This next part probably belongs in the dressage note (or in the
    rambling reminiscences note) but I'll put it here to show how much VS and 
    Von Neindorff respected each other. VS would visit Von Neindorff whenever 
    he(VS) was traveling in Europe. On one trip, he took movie film of Von 
    Neindorff riding. He saw something different in the way Von Neindorff 
    rode the extended trot. VS took a frame from the film and had it blown up 
    into an 8x10 glossy. VS took that 8x10 to Europe with him on his next trip. 
    After discussing it with Von Neindorff, VS felt that Von Neindorff was 
    correct. VS changed the way he rode and taught to the way Von Neindorff 
    rode. At the time, VS was about 80, had been a 1936 Olympic 
    Medalist(Team Show Jumping), had been riding haute ecole since before 
    WWII(I've seen films of him doing levades with a Friesan stallion circa 
    1935) and had been riding actively since he was 4-5 years old!
33.42I thought it was just me....BSS::OBOX::SACHSYou are the magnet and I am steelWed Nov 20 1991 14:429
Boy, I thought it was just me being unhappy with the latest issues
of EQUUS.  I've canceled my subscription with this last issue.  

It looks like they tried to copy Practical Horseman and failed miserably.


What a shame.....

Jan
33.43I too, no longer get it.AIMHI::DANIELSThu Nov 21 1991 10:576
    I thought I was the only "heretic."  I loved Equus when it first came
    out, and have the original issues up through about issue 36.  I did
    wonder, "what do they do for an encore when Equus grows up."  The
    magazine started off great, then after they said all that could
    basically be said about founder, navicular, etc. I started to find it
    pretty boring.
33.44EQUUS' Article on Weight Estimation :-(DECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Fri Dec 20 1991 16:0957
    Here's a copy of a "nastygram" I sent to EQUUS to complain about some
    of their recent work. If I ever get an answer, I'll post it too!
    The letter complains about an article they had about estimating a
    horse's weight. The article included "nomograms"(charts) with 3 scales
    on them. For example, one of them had girth, length, and weight scales. You 
    measure the horse's girth and length. Then you draw a line between the
    measurements and read off the weight.
    
        Editor

        I am writing about an article entitled "Weighty Matters" which
        appeared in EQUUS 165 (July 1991). I consider this article to be
        inaccurate and misinformative.

        I used both of the methods dsecribed in that article to estimate 
        the weights of 3 horses. The Nomogram 1 method did not produce 
        results which were consistent with Nomogram 2. Furthermore, NEITHER 
        of these methods produced weight estimates which were consistent with 
        two other methods. For 10-12 years, we have used a formula found in
        David Willoughby's "Growth and Nutrition in Horses" to estimate
        weight from girth measurements. We also use a weight tape that 
        feed dealers used as promotional items some years back.

        The estimates of our horses weights were consistent using the 
        Willoughby formula and the weight tape. Nomogram 1 in the EQUUS 
        article estimated the weight of these horses significantly lower; more
        than 200 pounds less in one case! Consider the following table:

                         Horse 1             Horse 2          Horse 3
        Formula           1280                 960              940
        Weight Tape       1250                 950              950
        Nomogram 1        1045                 915              880
        Nomogram 2        1200                1025             1025

        Please do not suggest that this discrepancy was due to an error in 
        measuring the trunk length of these horses. In Appendix I of 
        Willoughby's book, he gives information relating the trunk length 
        to the girth measurement. Willoughby states that the trunk length 
        of nearly all horses will be between 86% and 90% of the girth 
        measurement. Our measurements were consistent with those guidleines. 
        Therefore, any errors we made were small and would not affect the 
        results. 

        For example, Horse 1 has a 75 inch girth and measured 65 inches in 
        trunk length. This represents a ratio of about 87%. We rated his
        condition at an average of 3.16 and he stands 16.1 hands.

        Assume that we made a measurement error and that this horse should 
        have a length to girth ratio of 90%. In that case, his trunk 
        measurement should have been approximately 67.5 inches. Nomogram 1 
        yields a result of 1100 pounds for the combination of a 75 inch girth 
        with a 67.5 inch length. The Nomogram 1 estimate is still 100 pounds 
        less than Nomogram 2's estimate and 150 to 180 pounds less than the 
        estimates made by the other methods!

                                              John N. D'Addamio
33.45GaitwayBRAT::FULTZFri Jan 03 1992 15:529
    
    
    	I gave away my new copy of Gaitway and I need the address
    	to start getting regularly.
    
    	Can anyone help????
    
    	Thanks
    Donna
33.46Horse Care magazine GONE!DECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Thu Jan 16 1992 16:126
    During our gripe session about EQUUS magazine, somebody mentioned
    Horse Care. I wrote to them last month to see about a subscription.
    
    I got a reply in yesterday's mail which said that Horse Care is no
    longer published. SO, don't bother trying to subscribe!
    
33.47Ex-Horse Care HEPBRN::BUSHMANFri Jan 17 1992 08:164
    Yes, and it's a shame, too!  Horse Care folded up in about Sept. of
    1991.  They replaced my subscription with Horse & Rider - no equal
    substitute. 
    -Kate
33.48Equine Images MPO::ROBINSONstarry eyes sparkling ablazeFri Jan 17 1992 08:358
    
    	I just got a card from Equine Images for a free issue and
    	trial subscription. Another friend did, too. Watch your
    	mail!! =)
    
    	Sherry
    
    
33.49A YES vote for Equine ImagesESCROW::ROBERTSFri Jan 17 1992 10:3111
    I subscribe to Equine Images and I love it.  It is not focused on
    training or horse care, but more on the aesthetic side of the horse
    world -- equine art, artists who specialize in equine art.  It is a
    beautiful magazine.  I find it fascinating just how much variety of
    equine art there is out there.  You see so much Vavra-style stuff --
    you know, soft focus models in wispy white dresses riding bareback on
    horses with flower in their manes (yuk!) -- that it's good to see 
    something a bit less schlocky.  (Guess my personal taste is showing here,
    huh?)
    
    -ellie 
33.50exDECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Fri Jan 17 1992 12:446
    Me three on Equine Images. Jan got me a subscription for Christmas two
    years ago. I really enjoy it.
    
    PS I think "Vavra-style stuff" is YUK too. White dresses and horses
    especially bareback is just not appealing(too unreal without being art,
    IMHO)
33.51KAHALA::FULTZED FULTZMon Jan 20 1992 08:383
My wife likes this magazine, also.  But $4.00 per issue?  Seems VERY high to me.

Ed..
33.52Reproductive qualityCSCMA::SMITHMon Jan 20 1992 09:049
    It does seem high when you compare it to other magazines. I have
    understood that the cost was due to the photographic quality. You might
    notice that the pages are much thicker. The colors and sharpness must
    be perfect in order to represent artwork. You will never see any bleed
    through from the backside. 
    I really enjoy this magazine too. It is expensive, but if your wife is 
    into art like I am, she would appreciate it.
    
    Sharon
33.53Artwork ain't cheapESCROW::ROBERTSMon Jan 20 1992 09:487
    re .59
    
    Yes, exactly.  Printing artwork is very costly.  And it has a more
    limited audience than other magazines, which also makes the cost a
    little higher.  It's really worth it to me.
    
    -ellie
33.54A weeks' "coffee money" ?DECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Mon Jan 20 1992 14:2014
    But, there are only 4 issues a year so it's not so bad if you look
    at the cost of a YEAR instead of an issue.
    
    If I looked at the per issue cost of say Cornell's "Animal Health
    Newsletter", I wouldn't get it. That's $45 a year for monthly issues 
    ($3.75 per issue) of 8 pages of newsprint! Sure, there's no advertising
    so all 8 pages are info. But, it's still a lot of $ but it's worth every
    penny to me as a dog breeder and horseman. 
    
    I figure the $16 a year we spend on Equine Images is less than some of
    my friends/co-workers here in Seattle spend on espresso drinks a week!
    They sell for $1.50 to $2.50 each and some people drink a couple a
    day!!!
    
33.55Equine ImagesLEVADE::DAVIDSONTue Jan 21 1992 08:4513

  My postcard (which didn't find the mail box enroute out this morning) says:

		Equine Images
		P.O. Box 420
		Mt Morris, IL
			61054-7885

	The price on the postcard is $19.95 for 4 issues (1 year)

					-Caroline

33.56Animal Heatlh Newsletter InformationDECWET::JDADDAMIOAdmire spirit in horses & women!Thu Jan 23 1992 14:0635
    Cornell Univeristy College of Veterinary Medicine Animal Heatlh Newsletter
    Customer Service: 1-800-873-2808
    Subscription Information: P.O. Box 52816 Boulder CO,80322-2816
    Subscription Cost: in U.S. $45 per year(12 issues)
                       outside U.S. $50 per year(12 issues), payable in
                       advance in US currency
    
    Each issue is 8 pages with no advertising. The usual layout is 3-4 pages 
    of articles each of which is 1/3 page to a page; a 3-4 page Special Report 
    article on a single topic; 1/2 page to a page of Questions from 
    readers/Answers from experts.
    
    As you might expect from the name, this newsletter is written by vets
    so they tend to use a lot of technical terms when discussing diseases,
    etc. The newsletter is aimed at the layperson, although some vets
    subscribe to it as "light reading" compared to their veterinary journals.
    They explain the technical terms at the first use so you don't need a 
    medical dictionary or anything like that. It is quite readable if you 
    are not easily put off by words like "encephalitis". 
    
    Actually, I am looking at the January 92 issue as I write this and there
    is nothing terribly sophisticated in the articles; "encephalitis" and
    "corneal" are the most technical words I see in the articles. That's a
    little unusual because the Special Report this month is on equine feeds
    rather than a disease like one I recently sent to some CANINE noters on
    vestibular disease in dogs. The questions from readers this month has lots 
    of technical terms in both the questions and answers:about eye diseases 
    caused by diabetes in dogs; the difference between retinal dysplasia and 
    progressive retinal atrophy, etc.
    
    Most of the articles are about dogs, cats or horses. They occasionally
    have an article on other pets like birds or pet pigs. I don't recall
    ever seeing articles on meat animals(cattle, sheep, swine, chickens,
    etc) so if you're a farmer looking for info on those kinds of animals,
    this ain't the place. 
33.57Chronicle of the Horse infoCSC32::M_HOEPNERthe Year of Jubilee...Fri Feb 07 1992 12:4412
    
    $42.00 per year, $80.00 for 2 years
    
    Circulation Office
       
          PO Box 432
          Mt Morris IL 61054-7726  800-435-0715
    
    Editorial and Advertising office
    
          PO Box 46
          Middleburg VA  22117   703-687-6341
33.58$42/year is less than $1/issueTOMLIN::ROMBERGsome assembly required...Fri Feb 07 1992 12:5811
The $42/year may seem like a lot, but the magazine is published *weekly*. It 
contains lots of show results, be they hunter shows/steeplechases/events.  It 
is an 'English' magazine - no breed shows, western etc.  There are regular 
horse care articles, along with editorials by 'well-knowns' such as Denny 
Emerson, Hilday Gurney, Judy Richter and George Morris.  There are no 'features'
like in Practical Horseman (eg. 'How I made it to the top on a shoestring...').
They periodically have 'special issues' like Stallion/Pony/Dressage/Event/
Hunting/Pony Club etc. where pretty much the entire issue is devoted to that 
particular discipline.


33.59The ChronicleEPS::JOHNSONFri Feb 07 1992 13:0030
Tina,

The Chronicle is $45.00 a year and is a weekly publication.
It contains news and information on the following:

dressage
hunters/jumpers
combined training
breeding
hunting
trail riding
racing
'The Horseman's forum' - which is any horse related subject.
Letters to the editor
Most AHSA/FEI recognized show results are printed.
Want ads

In my opinion, if you're in the horse business, the Chronicle is _the_
trade magazine for the business.  I enjoy it to stay current, and read it 
from cover to cover!  Its the only equine magazine I get.  I've heard 
competitors refer to it as the 'bible.'  You can study trends, such as a 
horse that is continuously placing in some competitive discipline, or else 
you can get an idea of what horses are selling for in the want-ads.  I know 
there are some European horse dealers who subscribe to the Chronicle to watch 
the trends.

Melinda

p.s. This might sound like an exaggeration, but I know of households who 
practically fight over who gets to read it first!  :^)
33.60Magazines like horses have faultsDECWET::JDADDAMIOMontar con orgullo!Fri Feb 07 1992 13:2527
    The Chronicle is a fairly good magazine. The best parts of it as far as
    I am concerned are Dr Eleanor Kellon's articles on management of a
    sport horse; legs, competing in hot weather, etc. and the short news bits 
    on the last 2 pages.
    
    They have in recent years more or less discontinued articles on
    training horses and flat racing. When editor emeritus Peter Winants
    retired, they stopped covering flat racing. They do still cover racing
    over fences(e.g. Steeplechasing, point-to-points, etc) I can't remember
    the last time they carried an article on training for any discipline.
    
    So, if you want show results, horse related news & trends as well as
    occassional articles on horse management and/or horse people, 
    The Chronicle is the magazine for you. 
    
    While we don't fight over it, we do both read it. Every year we debate
    whether or not to renew it because MOST of the magazine's content is
    not what we are interested in...namely the "business" side of horses.
    But every year, the editors put in enough stuff that IS of interest to
    us that we renew. 
    
    The Chronicle used to be 1 of 2 magazines that we got. The other was
    EQUUS. Since the Chronicle has stopped covering racing and training AND
    EQUUS has been lacking in content, we have had to expand our subscriptions
    to make up for the changes. We now get 2 weekly magazines, 4 monthlys,
    2 every other month and 1 quarterly. How do I ever find time to do any
    work?
33.62Good reading! Old horse magazines BOOVX1::MANDILELife hand ya lemons? Make Lemonade!Tue Apr 21 1992 17:1513
    I was offered a bunch of *very* old Western Horseman
    Horse & Rider, and other misc magazines.  We are talking
    circa 1968-72 issues here!
    
    Boy, have things changed!  One cover depicts a man restraining
    a colt from it's dam by holding it's tail and the back of the
    halter!  Could you imagine the crys of animal abuse now?
    
    Of course, some things haven't changed.....gimics to cut training
    corners, etc.
    
    Lynne
    
33.61The Quarter Horse JournalGENRAL::LEECHA closed mouth gathers no feet.Thu Jun 04 1992 10:2711
    
    
    The Quarter Horse Journal
    Circulation Department
    P.O. Box 32470
    Amarillo, Texas 79120-990
    
    Subscription cost:
    
    $17.50 per year U.S.
    $34.00 per year Canada and foreign
33.63gaited horse magazineNWD002::BOURAY_DAFri Oct 30 1992 22:377
    4 BEAT MAGAZINE   quarterly $15  P.O. Box 1079  Three Forks, MT  59752
    
    Thid magazine covers all horses with a natural traveling gait. 
    Single-Footing horses, Tennessee Walkers, Fox Trotters, Peruvian Pasos,
    Paso Finos, Icelandics and others.  Devoted to trail shod horses, trail
    riding, genetics of gait, versatility events (dressage, cutting,
    jumping, harness and so on), history and more.  
33.64Horse Sport InternationalFSAEUR::LOTHROPTue Dec 07 1993 09:4831
    This past weekend at the Frankfurt CSI/CDI, a new magazine was handed
    out to everyone called "Horse Sport International".  It's really more
    of a newspaper, containing information on show jumping, dressage and
    eventing.  It's in English and to quote (without permission) from the
    editor's forward:
    
    	"Although our emphasis will be on show jumping, our intention 
    	is to cover all three Olympic equestrian disciplines (show
    	jumping, eventing and dressage) on an international basis,
    	bringing you the most up to date infomration a monthly 
    	newspaper can.  Every month except for January, you will
    	find our pages full of news, reports and results of 
    	international competitions, interesting and relevant features
    	and exciting and colourful photography.  We have enlisted
    	the help of some of the best equestrian journalists and
    	photographers in the world to guarantee comprehensive and 
    	enthusiastic coverage of all major fixtures around the world."
    
    I really liked this first issue.  It's got lots of photos and relevant
    stories from an international perspective.
    
    I'm thinking of subscribing, and the information to subscribe is:
    
    		PJA Tour
    		P.O. Box 2573
    		Boxford, Sudbury              
    		Suffolk C010 5AH
    		England
    
    The cost is 30DM, 12 British Pounds or $18 (make your check payable to
    PJA Tour)
33.65Yankee PedlarSTOWOA::MCKEOWNFri Jul 08 1994 17:313
    Can someone post a phone number for the Yankee Pedlar subscription.
    
    Thanks.
33.66Pedlar's numberALFA1::COOKChips R UsFri Jul 08 1994 17:464
    The phone number for the Yankee Pedlar is
    
    	508-832-9638
    
33.67"Dressage Today"DECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle:Life in the espressolaneThu Sep 08 1994 21:0057
    Early last week, our copy of the first issue of "Dressage Today" arrived. 
    I mentioned in Note 10 that this magazine was a joint venture of the
    USDF and Fleet Street Pub(i.e. EQUUS magazine) and that it was to
    replace the quarterly USDF Bulletin. 
    
    Now that I've read the entire first issue, I have mixed feelings about
    "Dressage Today". It's flashy and in color. Much nicer than the USDF
    Bulletin was. 
    
    On the other hand, the format was awfully close to that of EQUUS. I was
    also put off by the *enormous* amount of ads in it. Including the front
    and back covers, the magazine had 124 pages total. I counted the full
    and part page ads and found that about 59% of the magazine was devoted
    to advertising! There were only 42 pages of text and informative
    illustrations/photos. There were another 10 pages of "eyewash" - pretty
    pictures that don't add/explain anything but accompany an article(e.g.
    photos of dressage riders who did well at the World Eq. Games)
    
    Nearly all the articles seemed to be aimed at people who have been 
    dressage riders for a short time and/or don't have a good instructor. 
    That's good in a way because most dressage riders fall into one or both
    categories. On the other hand, it's not very interesting for those who
    have been studying for a long time and have had good teachers.
    
    I compared the Sept "Dressage Today" with the Sept "Dressage & CT".
    I found that "Dressage & CT" had a mere 54 pages compared to "Dressage
    Today"'s 124. However, only about 20% of "Dressage & CT"'s space was
    taken up by full/part page ads(about 11 pages total). The only thing
    close to "eyewash" is the cover. Even that really isn't eyewash.
    There's some useful info on most covers... That means there's 42 pages
    of articles and useful illustrations in D & CT. Exactly the same as in
    the larger flashier D T(hmmm that's a little too close to "the DT's" so
    I'll stop using it).
    
    The articles in "Dressage & CT" are usually less basic than the ones
    in "Dressage Today"'s first issue. For example, "Dressage Today"
    spent several pages describing an arena and how it consists of 2 or 3
    20M squares put together and how a 20M circle fits inside one of those
    squares. That's important to know but it's pretty basic, right? 
    
    I didn't like the "Clinic" column in "Dressage Today" at all. Robert
    Dover commented about photos of 2 different riders. The photos were too
    small(about 1.5" on each side) for the reader to see anything and he
    made very similar comments about each one. Some of them were pretty
    silly: "This rider needs to get boots that don't wrinkle. They look 
    better." or "This rider needs a hair net." None of the comments were
    anything like a teacher or judge would make. Most were "empty" comments
    that said nothing worthwhile. Well, maybe some newbie would get some
    use out of that hair sticking out photo/comment but ...
    
    Anyway, it's a nice looking magazine with some useful info in it,
    especially if you're fairly new to dressage. USDF members are getting
    the first 5 issues free on a trial basis. After that, USDF members can
    subscribe for $12. The non-member subscriptions cost $24. Call
    (301)977-3900, ext 0 for subscriptions or more info.
    
    John
33.68Dressage Today - thumbs up!BROKE::MELINDAJohnson dtn 381-2623Fri Sep 09 1994 11:4050
    John,

    I'm glad you've reopened this topic since it hasn't been very
    lively lately.  Hopefully our varying opinions on the new magazine
    with get us all conversing again.

    To comment on your comments, I suppose you're right to say their
    articles were high level and geared toward the very basics in dressage.

    I don't have the magazine in front of me now, but I recall articles
    by Melanie Tenney on stretching, one by Pam Goodrich on rhythm,
    and one by Kathy Connelly on forwardness.   I have to say no matter
    how many times I've heard these things said, I enjoy hearing them
    retold again and again.  Each time you hear these basics described
    in fresh new words, it helps to reinforce the concepts.  I'm so tired of
    the 'old words' that I'm always looking to use new ones.

    Also by frequently retelling the old stories, the timing might actually
    coincide well with a rider's current problem.  An article might trigger
    a rider to say 'aha', thats right, *thats* whats causing my problems
    right now, and the rider might go on to address the root of their problems
    instead of dwelling on some minute technical side effect.
    
    I guess some people's 'eyewash' is another's eye-catcher.  I thought
    the color full page photos were splendid.  I could see the incredible
    feelings spilling out of the WEG riders and from the pictures I could
    almost imagine their feelings.  I love seeing close ups of famous 
    riders so that I might be able to recognize them.  I mean, isn't it
    ok to idolize these riders a bit?  This is our 'Sports Illustrated'
    and I want photos!

    Ok, about the clinic column, I agree, they could have used larger
    photos.  But without motion video coming from a pc subscribed magazine
    of the future, how in the heck was Dover suppose to go beyond a
    superficial analysis?   I thought his superficial analysis was right on
    target.  There's details involved in getting that polished look so why
    not tell everyone how to improve their turnout?

    And I have to confess, I love reading the ads, especially ones for
    new products that I'd never heard of.  And I saw lots of new products
    in there!  I guess I'm just a perpetual window-shopper.

    What do others think?

    Melinda

	


33.69Shopping? What's that? DECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle:Life in the espressolaneFri Sep 09 1994 15:2161
    Hi Melinda,
    
    Glad you're commenting on my comments. We haven't had a good discussion
    in a long time. I rather enjoy them even when we disagree. Actually,
    maybe I like our discussions more when we disagree. Those last longer
    and I can learn something!
    
    >I don't have the magazine in front of me now, but I recall articles
    >by Melanie Tenney on stretching, one by Pam Goodrich on rhythm,
    >and one by Kathy Connelly on forwardness.  
    
    Yup, those were the best articles in it. I especially liked Connelly's. 
    Unfortunately, Connelly's wasn't really an article but a Q/A column and
    she answered 2 questions related to forwardness. I'd rather see her
    write a series of articles than play Dear Abbey for subscribers.
    
    Re "one by Pam Goodrich on rhythm"
    
    I know which one you mean but, if I remember right, that article didn't
    list an author. I specifically looked for such things to see who was
    writing for the new magazine. I got the impression from the lack of a
    "byline" that it was by one or more staff writers rather than a rider
    of Goodrich's level. I know Pam Goodrich was mentioned by the
    article and was the subject of the photos. If she did write it, I'd
    like to see more from her too. However, I'd give the people who lay out
    the articles and proof-read things a failing grade. Did you notice that
    the photo sequence of Goodrich doing half pass at the trot was
    reversed? The horse is moving laterally to its right but the tree in
    the background moves left! And the horse is somewhat farther away in
    the 3rd photo. Rather a misleading error, don't you think?
    
    >This is our 'Sports Illustrated' and I want photos!
    
    I don't mind the photos. I didn't mean 'eyewash' as a derrogatory term.
    I just wanted to differentiate informative/instructional illustrations 
    from those that were just pretty pictures. I *like* pretty pictures! 
    I've got tons of 'eyewash' pinned on my office walls! Postcards with
    equine art work, favorite pages from old horse calendars and a couple 
    posters, pictures of Jan riding, etc.
    
    >how in the heck was Dover suppose to go beyond a superficial analysis?
    
    That's my point. Why bother with the stupid column if it's bound to be
    superficial by it's very nature? You can't possibly expect any
    substantial opinion from a single photo(even if it were big enough to
    see clearly)
    
    >I love reading the ads, especially ones for new products that I'd
    >never heard of. ... I guess I'm just a perpetual window-shopper.
    
    I counted the 'new products' column they have towards the back as an
    article. I sometimes read those. Every once in a while, you get a "Gee
    whiz, Ma. Look at that!" which makes it interesting. But, I don't 
    read the regular ads unless I'm in the market for something. Then, I 
    flip through and find all the ads for the kind of product I want and 
    call for more info. Shopping? What's that? Is it a sport I don't
    follow, like football?
    
    I'd sure like to hear from some other people too.
    
    John
33.70I liked itSTOWOA::MCKEOWNMon Sep 12 1994 12:0512
    I truly enjoyed the first edition.  Yes, it does have some
    short-comings, the Robert Dover column in my mind being the most
    glaring.  I guess it's to compare with George Morris in "Practical
    Horseman", but somehow I don't think it works for Dressage.  I mean, he
    could say that the horse was doing a fairly good leg yield, when in
    reality he was supposed to be doing a half pass and was bent the wrong
    way!
    
    At any rate, I was impressed with the timeliness of the World Cup
    results.  I thought the photographs were great.  I'm looking forward to
    the next few issues to see if they can maintain and improve on their
    charter issue.
33.71I liked it alsoTOLKIN::BENNETTMon Sep 12 1994 14:3013
    I was also very pleased with my first copy.  I like the format and
    enjoyed all the articles (and pictures!).  I have to agree with .70 -
    the Dover column does compare to Morris evaluating the jumpers in PH.
    If geared toward someone starting out in Dressage - this would be more
    valuable by showing obvious faults (hollowing, head too high, etc.)  
    
    I felt the magazine was 'down-to-earth' - it could have easily leaned
    toward pomposity.  I was happy to see writeups on using non-traditional
    breeds for dressage.
    
    my .02 
    
    Janice 
33.72Second issue yet?DECWET::JDADDAMIOSeattle:Life in the espressolaneMon Oct 10 1994 20:223
    Has anyone received their *second* (i.e. October 1994) issue of
    "Dressage Today" yet? It's almost mid-October and ours hasn't arrived
    yet. 
33.73Not yet...BOUVS::OAKEYworth every penny...Tue Oct 11 1994 08:519
>>   <<< Note 33.72 by DECWET::JDADDAMIO "Seattle:Life in the espressolane" >>>
>>                             -< Second issue yet? >-

>>    Has anyone received their *second* (i.e. October 1994) issue of
>>    "Dressage Today" yet? It's almost mid-October and ours hasn't arrived
>>    yet. 

Glad to know that I wasn't the only one wondering where mine was :)

33.74It arrived yesterdayTOLKIN::BENNETTWed Oct 12 1994 14:1228
    I just got my Oct copy of "Dressage Today" - yesterday when I got home
    from work.
    
    And guess what the feature article is: "The Half-halt!" (inner workings
    of - or something to that effect).  This article includes explanations
    by a number of well-known dressage personalities including Reiner
    Klimke - and they are very clear in this article to explain that there
    is no exact formula for the half-halt and goes on to describe it as a
    dynamic tool that you should experiment with for the appropriate response
    (once the essentials are established: forward with impulsion, etc). 
    One point I question is the description of teaching the horse the
    basics of halting by using the long side of the arena.  I can't
    remember whose response this was (not Klimke).  He (I think it was a
    he) suggests a canter on the long side and (I interpret) that you use
    the wall at the short end to get a halt (ie: stop or crash).  Also
    described is moving the elbows back and really pulling if there is
    no response to an initial light aids (back,legs,seat,hands).  This really 
    jumped out at me as I was reading it and felt it needed more 
    clarification.  I've used the wall as a means of helping the horse 
    understand the halt aids - but at a canter?  On a green horse?  
    PULLING???? 
    
    (Oh, they reused one picture of the US Team at the WEG from the Sept.
    issue ;^}
    
    Janice
          
          
33.75Western Magazines?AIMHI::DANIELSFri Mar 24 1995 13:0813
    Well, it has been a while since anyone had anything in this note.
    
    I'm looking for any magazines or regional newspapers that relate to 
    Western Riding, other than Western Horseman.  I'm also looking for a 
    magazine called something California or California something that is a 
    western oriented magazine.
    
    If you have any info on this, please give titles and a phone number so
    I can order them.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Tina D.
33.76Performance Horseman?BOUVS::OAKEYI&#039;ll take Clueless for $500, AlexSun Mar 26 1995 09:3114
�                      <<< Note 33.75 by AIMHI::DANIELS >>>
�                            -< Western Magazines? >-

�    I'm looking for any magazines or regional newspapers that relate to 
�    Western Riding, other than Western Horseman.  I'm also looking for a 

Tina,

Cowles Magazines, Inc, who publish Practical Horseman (which is english 
based) also publish a western magazine.  I seem to recall the name is 
Performance Horseman (but not positive on this).  The subscription service 
number is 800.435.9610 for Practical Horseman and I'll bet they can help 
with the western version.

33.77Horse and Rider, by CowlesCSCMA::SMITHMon Mar 27 1995 14:172
    Horse & rider is a high quality western magazine. Their number is
    303-914-3000. They are in Colorado.
33.78Need more infoAIMHI::DANIELSTue Apr 11 1995 12:2312
    Hi,
    
    Thanks for the replies, I'm still trying to get into touch with the
    advertising director of Horse & Rider, etc.
    
    Does anyone have the 800 # for Western Horseman, AND do you know of a
    publication that is big into Western but has a real California focus?
    Anything similar to the Horseman's Yankee Pedlar out there?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Tina
33.79MROA::ROBINSON_Syou have HOW MANY cats??Tue Apr 11 1995 14:136
    
    	I get the Horsemen's Corral out of Ohio. They're big on QH, Arabs, 
    	NSH's and Paso's. Lots of western stuff. It's like the Pedlar. If
    	anyone is interested I can get the info for you...
    
    	Sherry
33.80I'm interestedAIMHI::DANIELSTue Apr 11 1995 14:215
    Yes, I'm very interested, please post a phone number.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Tina
33.81Western Horseman out of the phone book :)BOUVS::OAKEYI&#039;ll take Clueless for $500, AlexTue Apr 11 1995 14:3912
�                      <<< Note 33.78 by AIMHI::DANIELS >>>
�                              -< Need more info >-

�    Does anyone have the 800 # for Western Horseman, AND do you know of a
�    publication that is big into Western but has a real California focus?
�    Anything similar to the Horseman's Yankee Pedlar out there?
    
For the 800 number try calling 800-555-1212 (800 info).

Their local number is 719-633-5524 (they are located in Colorado Springs 
down the street (well, sort of anyway) from the Digital facility here.

33.82California Horse ReviewAIMHI::DANIELSTue Apr 11 1995 14:559
    Thanks a lot!  I just found out the name of the regional magazine
    (paper?) that I'm looking for - California Horse Review, however, the
    person who told me couldn't tell me what city they are located in or
    anything.  Anybody that can help on this????
    
    
    Many thanks,
    
    Tina
33.83From the horsemans directoryCSCMA::SMITHWed Apr 12 1995 20:119
    Cal. horse review - Jennifer Forsberg Meyer, Editor
    po box 1238
    Rancho Cordova, CA 95741-9885
    
    916-638-1519
    
    General interest, all breeds, local Calendar. National, monthly,
    magazine, 10,000 circulation.
    
33.84More stuff from the directoryCSCMA::SMITHWed Apr 12 1995 20:3831
    Horse & Rider, Juli Thorson- editor, 12265 West Bayaud, Suite 300,
    Lakewood, CO 80228    303-914-3000 Fax 303-914-3098
    Western training, instruction and lifestyle. International, magazine,
    monthly, 153,086 circulation
    
    Western Horseman,  Patricia Close- Editor, po Box 7980, Colorado Springs,
    CO  80933-7980    719-633-5524  Fax 719-633-1392
    General interest, international, monthly, magazine, 224,637
    circulation.
    
    California Horsetrader is a fairly large one 26,100 circ, in
    California. Warren Wilson- editor, San Marcos, CA
    619-744-1184 is there number.  show coverage, industry
    mews, general interest, statewide, semi-monthly.
    
    Equestian Connection, Pat Kemp- editor 916-723-7452. 
    Citris Heights, CA    General interest, regional, monthly, magazine,
    13,000 circ.
    
    Equine exchange, Kevin Burns- ed., Magalia, CA  916-873-6471.
    General int., regional CA,NV,OR, monthly, mag., 12,000 circ.
    
    Actually, there are a lot in California
    Horse Gazette, Hesperia, CA  10,000 circ.
    Horse illustrated -Real big, 189,203, national
    Horsemans News- San Marcos, CA 619-471-0130, General int., regional AZ,
        CA,NV,OR, monthly, tabloid, 25,000 circ
    There are a bunch more, but breed specific or not very big and 
    none in California I could find catering just to Western.
    
    Sharon
33.85Thank youAIMHI::DANIELSThu Apr 13 1995 13:061
    Thank you, thank you, thank you!
33.86Horseman's directory?AIMHI::DANIELSThu Apr 13 1995 13:195
    Where can I get a Horseman's Directory?
    
    Thanks again,
    
    Tina
33.87Horse industry directoryCSCMA::SMITHFri Apr 14 1995 09:5514
    1995 Horse Industry Directory- $20
    
    American Horse Council
    1700 K Street, N.W.
    Suite 300
    Washington, DC
              20006-3805
    
    (202)296-4031
    
    The easiest way is to call them and use a credit card to order it,
    I got it a few days. 
    
    Sharon
33.88Thank youAIMHI::DANIELSFri Apr 14 1995 11:111
    Thanks,  I just ordered it.
33.89Horsemen's CorralMROA::ROBINSON_Syou have HOW MANY cats??Tue May 23 1995 17:5511
    	Horsemen's Corral
    	P.O. Box 110
    	New London, OH  44851
    
    	1 yr = $15.00
    	2 yrs= $26.00
    	3 yrs= $37.00
    
    	Mainly QH. Arab, NSH and Paso
    	Richard Shrake column every month
    
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