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Title:Equine Notes Conference
Notice:Topics List=4, Horses 4Sale/Wanted=150, Equip 4Sale/Wanted=151
Moderator:MTADMS::COBURNIO
Created:Tue Feb 11 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2080
Total number of notes:22383

174.0. "Hoof Hardeners Vs Shoeing" by VIKING::KLINK (Dave Klinkhamer) Fri Feb 28 1986 13:05

    
    	Lets discuss Hoof hardeners vs. shodding the Pros and Cons.
    I just recently read an article in the March issue of Equuis of
    a new hardener developed by a Dentist designed to replace shoes
    and elminate cracking, chiping, and other related wear on horses
    hooves.
    	Has anyone used such a product and if so, is it all "cracked"
    up to what it should be?
    
    			Dave K.
    
    
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174.1HARDENERS - NOT YET!LAUREL::REMILLARDFri Feb 28 1986 15:5412
    	Hi there.
    
    	I am a distance rider and ride on on types of terrain.  I have
    	a friend that tried a hoof hardener - she is a endurance rider.
    	Her horses's hooves were in sad shape after just 25 miles. 
    	He had lots of nicks and chips along the outer walls.  She said
    	that he did seem to go better bearfoot and held the trail well
    	but she did go back to shoes.  Hopefully this product will someday
    	improve....  I too would love for my horse to go bearfoot and
    	just think of the money you would save on shoes!
    
    	Susan
174.2As a supplement, it seems OKCARLIN::ROMBERGKathy Romberg DTN 276-8189Mon Mar 03 1986 09:119
	At the  show  barn where I used to keep my critter, the farriers
    used  the  bonding  material  on horses whose feet had a tendency to
    crack  with  the dry weather of summer and the frequent (about every
    3-4 weeks) shoeings they were subjected to. As a supplement to shoes
    it  seemed  to do okay. Without the bonding, these horses would have
    been trying to walk on little nubs.

				Kathy
174.3Hoof SupplementOBIWAN::CUSHNERThu May 01 1986 10:2320
    To whomever wants info on feet:
    
    My older thorobred has had feet and leg problems every since I've
    had him.  At one point he was lame on all four feet at the same
    time.  He has the sorbothane pads on his front feet and it was a
    major undertaking to keep his shoes on with the pads.  In addition,
    he had thin, weak walls.  I've been using a supplement for the last
    year that is absolutely fantastic.  The supplement is called GEN-A-HOOF
    and is a biotin compound.  His feet have become much stronger and
    much less likely to crack and chip.  If he loses a shoe at this
    point, I no longer go into freak-out mode because of it.  The product
    is made by a company in Staten Island, New York City.  If anyone
    wants further info, my DTN is 323-4607 or direct dial (201)562-4607.
    
    Sherree
    
    P.S.  I've not needed to use any of the paint-on conditioners since
    the supplement.
    
    
174.4Try Sourcef10NEWVAX::AIKENI love Crabbet Arabians! 301-867-1584Tue Sep 09 1986 12:2814
    One of my boarders uses a bonding liquid on her Appaloosa gelding.
     She also uses Corona about 3X/week.  Her horse's feet look much
    better and seem more pliable.  Now that we've had more rain, there's
    less of a problem.
    
    Someone mentioned Gen-a-Hoof.  Another product, Source, is also
    very good.  My Quarterhorse gelding injured his coronary band in
    two places when he was a youngster.  Consequently, the new hoof
    grows down with two cracks in the outer hoof wall.  When I have
    him on Source, the cracks are always closed -- mere dents in the
    hoof wall.  Interestingly, he doesn't seem to need the Source as
    much now; maybe the effects are residual?
    
    Merrie Aiken (dtn)341-2395
174.5How about the new plastic shoes?GENRAL::BOURBEAUWed Oct 29 1986 13:3610
    My farrier agrees with the first reply that the hardeners are still
    inadequate for heavy use applications. They might work better here
    where I do most of my riding,namely on the plains with few rocks.
    	I'm curious about the new plastic/poly shoes. I've been trying
    to get my farrier to get me some with no success yet.
    	I'm refering to the new one's advertised recently in EQUUS.
    has anyone had any experience with these???
    
    	George
    
174.6NOT ALL HOOFS ARE HARDSALEM::ALLEN_DThu Jan 05 1989 14:5510
    I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE MOISTURE BALANCE IN THE HOOF
    WAS INPORTANT AND CAN HELP IF THE HOOF IS KEPT SOFT SO AS TO BE
    PLYABLE ENOUGH TO TAKE THE POUNDING THAT I DOES WHEN ONE RIDES.
    IF YOU HAVE FROG THAT IS TENDER THAN YOU WILL HAVE A HORSE WITH
    POOR PERFORMANCE OVER ALL IN ALL TYPES OF RIDING. TRY HOOF AND NAIL
    DRESSING MADE BY RAWLEIGH IT SEEMS TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM QUITE
    WELL.IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CALL DTN 894-3315 AND I WILL
    GIVE ANY INFORMATION I CAN,ABOUT THE MINK OIL IN THE PRODUCT AND
    WHAT IT DOES.                      DON
     
174.7It's good stuffMSDOA2::KRESSENBERGThu Aug 02 1990 16:357
    I have used a product called "hoof bond" for about a year now - in
    conjunction with shoeing a Thoroughbred mare that has rather thin hoof
    walls. It really keeps shoes on longer. I don't know about using it
    instead of shoes. Remember, shoes also keep the sensitive sole area
    elevated above rough terrain, rocks and the like. Also, bonds are
    helpful in either too dry or too wet areas to maintain normal hoof
    moisture.