Conference noted::bicycle

... or is it USA Cycling I hate. Ahhh, now I'm sure of it, I
hate them both.

I had to call Colorado Springs. I talked to a woman and got the
usual "don't you know anything, we changed the way we are issuing
licenses" smart-butt attitude. I believe the USCF runs boot camps
to train their workers and officials for just this purpose.

Anyway, I explained that my license expired on 12/31/96. She said,
"Oh, that's funny, you should have recieved your renewal". I said
to myself, "no kidding, Sherlock."

So, now I have it. Naturally, they have "updated" and "improved"
the form. You know how that goes.

So, instead of me calling them again (I'd rather down a shot of
hydrochloric acid) maybe someone in here can provide some clarity
on the form for me.

1) Since I don't have the 1997 Rules Of Bicycle Racing yet, it 
appears that they have eliminated Cat. E. Is this correct?

2) I wish to be licensed as I was last year, but also wish to
   do some mountain bike racing as well. It appears that the
   part I need to check-off is the one that says Association
   Membership (USCF, NORBA, NCCA) and send in $15.00 each for
   the USCF and NORBA. Is this correct?

Life used to be so simple...

Thanks,

         Chip

What is Category E?  Isn't that a collegiate level?  I know it's
$15/association, but how do you "renew your old license" and "get a new Norba
one?

Guess.  If you make an error, make them call you!

Tim

p.s. Do you hate NORBA too?
 

Cat. E was the old Cat. 5. I think they still have it.

I've never been a member of NORBA and have never done a 
mountain bike race before. However, I have heard that
NORBA does a poor job at race organization. People I
know who mountain bike race regularly tell me most (if
not all) events are laced with chaos and pandamonium.

If someone doesn' respond in here I'll give them a 
call, again, and enter what I find out.

Chip

Chip--

> Cat. E was the old Cat. 5. I think they still have it.

Its gone, and I can give you a reason to hate NORBA:
    The USCF/USA Cycling adopted NORBA's one day license deal.

I say mark yourself down as a cat 1, and see if they complain  ;)  If they
do, just tell them you're Cap-Tain Tiii (with appropriate echo, reverb, and
booming voice,)  maybe then you'll get some respect....


Tim (I think it was) said $20 + $15/association (USCF, NORBA, ...); that
is what I remember from the form.  I dont know much about NORBA, but it
used to be you could mark yourself all the way to the 2nd highest class
w/out anyone complaining.  Only the top spot required approval.

--roger

I think cat 5 is still here.  Public is gone, 1 day cat 5 licenses have replaced
public.  Boy, I am very glad I upgraded...

All public races have been eliminated. I guess I'll upgrade
this year.

So, I guess for me to get my USCF license and Norba it's going
to cost me $30.00. Now, do I also have to kick in the $20.00
for USA Cycling or can I blow that off?

Chip

cost is $20 to USA Cycling
        $15 to USCF
        $15 to NORBA

total:  $50 from your wallet
(or $5 more than last year.)  I just found out it's ~$250 to register a club
with USCF - what they do w/ all the money Ive no idea.  Secondary 80% coverage
insurance cant be that much........

.02
--roger

$50 is a lot.  I was not happy with $35.  They've also gone to free market
everywhere, which means promoters can charge as much as they want for entry
fees.  I suspect most will continue with $15 + $5 late/day of.

So much for encouraging cycling at the lowest level.  I'm recruiting a few new
folks for '97 (or trying to anyway).

Tim

It's all about money with the Waffen USCF.

Chip