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| 2909.1 | Top Tube Cable Routing? | MKOTS3::TCC050::LARSON |  | Wed Feb 08 1995 12:14 | 10 | 
|  | Ken,
It may be that the top tube has "internal cable routing".  I have a Trek 
road frame that has an annoying metalic rattle in the top tube, and it is 
the rear brake cable banging against the aluminum top tube.  There is 
nothing you can do about it (that I know of).
Mike
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| 2909.2 |  | NOVA::FISHER | now |a|n|a|l|o|g| | Thu Feb 09 1995 03:58 | 9 | 
|  |     it sounds to me like a metal burr that broke off one of the
    tubing pieces during manufacture -- like if the tubes aren't
    nicely polished before assembly and then one of the rough pieces
    gets broken off during assembly and becomes forever entombed
    within the frame.  Evidence of minor sloppiness in assembly
    but nothing to worry about unless you're trying to shave
    milligrams.
    
    ed
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| 2909.3 |  | BASLG1::BURNLEY |  | Thu Feb 09 1995 04:16 | 5 | 
|  |      Cant you shake it out via the Seat Tube? 
    
    I Know that some Pro-Flex's had an extra tube "glued?" in the Seat tube
    at their bottom bracket to give extra strength. There have been reports
    in the UK of this coming loose and sliding around.  
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| 2909.4 | Internal Cable Fix? | BRAT::JASINSKI |  | Thu Feb 09 1995 07:43 | 16 | 
|  |     Re: .1
    
    I also have a Trek with internal cable routing.  The rattling that you
    described only happens on bumpy surfaces (which describes most New
    England roads).  I've heard of people solving this problem by covering
    the brake cable with a length of narrow foam pipe insulation, run
    through the seat tube.
    
    I looked for some of this insulation at Home Depot, but the narrowest
    they had was a 3/4" inside diameter.  They suggested I try a store that
    specializes in refrigeration supplies.  When I find some, I'll let you
    know how it works out.
    
    
    
    Steve
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| 2909.5 | can probably shake it out | EXPERI::MENTAL | Got me a caffeine jones! | Thu Feb 09 1995 09:34 | 16 | 
|  | 
	Well, I looked at it again last night... It does sound like a small
	metal burr... It's in the top tube, and slides all the way from the 
	head tube back to the seat tube. I pulled out the seat post, and 
	there is a hole at the top-tube/seat-tube joint, so I can probably 
	shake it out of there. 
	The bike only weighs about 22 lbs, so every milligram we can
	shave off will help 8^). 
	Thanks for the help - now we just need to get out and *ride* this
	weekend. 
	/ken
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| 2909.6 |  | NOVA::FISHER | now |a|n|a|l|o|g| | Thu Feb 09 1995 09:42 | 3 | 
|  |     yeah, heck 22 lbs is 10 million milligrams.
    
    ed
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| 2909.7 | and a nanosecond each second is a second in 32 years | MOVIES::WIDDOWSON | Brought to you from an F64 disk | Thu Feb 09 1995 12:18 | 2 | 
|  |     Just as well it's not titanium, then removing the burr would mean less
    of a gain.
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| 2909.8 | My rattle is from the cage mount hole plug(s) | MUZICK::MISKINIS |  | Fri Feb 10 1995 14:02 | 8 | 
|  | Hi,
	Did you install a water bottle cage?  My Peugeot frame had
	little plastic caps filling the threaded holes for a cage.
	When these were removed (broken off) a piece went inside the
	frame (on both), and I have had a rattle ever since.
_John_
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| 2909.9 | Service ?!? | JGO::GERRITSEN |  | Tue Feb 14 1995 07:43 | 5 | 
|  |     If I bought a new bike and heard a strange noise/rattle inside it, I
    would go back to the dealer. It should be his service to clear this.
    Or did this occur after you added the bar-ends etc ?
                        
    Ray
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| 2909.10 |  | EXPERI::MENTAL | Got me a caffeine jones! | Wed May 10 1995 15:02 | 9 | 
|  | 
	Forgot all about this note...
	The rattle seems to be gone - I shook the bike around with the 
	seatpost removed, and that must have gotten rid of whatever was in 
	there. The bike's been ridden hard with no problems so far. 
	/ken
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