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Conference noted::bicycle

Title:	Bicycling
Notice:	Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:	JAMIN::WASSER

Created:	Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3214
Total number of notes:	31946

2765.0. "SPD road pedals/cleats walkability vs "performance"" by NODEX::CORNO::wldhrn.mro.dec.com::ROGERS () Tue May 10 1994 14:51

I would be interested in learning about experiences you might have 
regarding Shimano SPD road pedals.  I am looking into replacing my Look 
Carbo Pros which have generally served me well with ones that afford a 
higher degree of "walkability" than does the Look cleat (OK, I know true 
cyclists don't have any business walking but it's sometimes necessary...and 
I'm tired of the "cow on ice act" ;-).   I would prefer to give up as 
little as praticable in the "racing characteristic" category -- weight, 
cornering, high effort cycling.  With that said I've had two suggestions 
from a my local shop; both SPDs:

1. Go Dura Ace or Ultegra road pedals and use with recessed type shoes (aka 
MTB type shoes).  Does this really work?  Performance catalog says they 
"work best" with smooth soled road shoes.  Can anyone comment in general 
about either of these -- I would be inclined toward Ultegra.

2. Go A525 (I guess a quasi road version of the MTB M525). Plus is cost and 
they use the SPD MTB style cleat (so I could use the same shoe off road; 
whereas the road pedal cleat gives you a MTB shoe which is incompatable 
with the "M" pedals -- I do both kinds of riding and have different shoes 
now).  My main concern is the appropriateness of this pedal for road 
training.

Thanks for your comments.

Steve

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2765.1	GO FOR THE ONZA'S	AKOCOA::FULLER		`Tue May 10 1994 16:27`	6
	For weight and useage go for the ONZA's. They are less bulk than the 525's and can be used with off road shoes. They also weigh significantly less than Shimano's. Other option is the 105's, only one sided but will take off road shoe. steve
2765.2	I second .1	SSDEVO::EDMONDS	Diane	`Wed May 11 1994 12:45`	10
	I vote for the ONZA's too. Besides the reasons listed in .1, they give you LOTS of rotation. I never used SPD's (I used to use LOOKs), but I understand SPD's are pretty bad as far as rotation. No use introducing knee or heel problems by switching to a pedal system with poor rotation. You can get SPD-to-ONZA adapters that allow you to put the ONZA cleat onto any shoe that's drilled for SPD. - Diane
2765.3	amending .2	SSDEVO::EDMONDS	Diane	`Thu May 12 1994 09:06`	13
	re: .2 I seem to have a mental block against saying this right (I goofed in the bike store last week too): > You can get SPD-to-ONZA adapters that allow you to put the ONZA > cleat onto any shoe that's drilled for SPD. What I MEANT was: you can get LOOK-to-SPD adapters that allow you to put SPD or ONZA cleats on shoes that are drilled for LOOK. - Diane
2765.4	Another vote for ONZA	SNOC02::PERTOT	I come from a land down under	`Thu May 12 1994 20:24`	6
	Just to put another $0.02 worth in - my son uses ONZA pedals with Shimano shoes, and swears by them. By the way, these are on a Giant Sedona, which he also uses on the road with a set of slicks. He reckons this is the bes setup he has ever used Rudi
2765.5	I'm sort of lost after the replies	ANGLIN::PEREZ	Trust, but ALWAYS verify!	`Fri May 13 1994 09:30`	7
	I've never heard of the ONZA pedals. Do they use an SPD cleat AND have rotation? Or is it their own cleat that will mount on a pair of shoes drilled for the recessed SPD cleat? I currently have the Nike shoes with the recessed SPD cleat and Shimano A525 pedals. Will the ONZA setup replace this without adapter or modification to the shoe?
2765.6	yep	SSDEVO::EDMONDS	Diane	`Fri May 13 1994 15:25`	16
	>I've never heard of the ONZA pedals. Do they use an SPD cleat AND have >rotation? No. >Or is it their own cleat that will mount on a pair of shoes >drilled for the recessed SPD cleat? Yes. (Sorry my first note was wrong & therefore confusing). >I currently have the Nike shoes with the recessed SPD cleat and Shimano >A525 pedals. Will the ONZA setup replace this without adapter or >modification to the shoe? Yes. You have to replace the pedals with ONZA pedals. But you don't have to replace the shoe or modify it.
2765.7	LOOK S2 SPD pedals	UKAOS::OVERMEYER		`Tue Apr 30 1996 10:28`	13
	I am looking for any information and opinions on the new LOOK S2 SPD style Pedalss for road bikes. Are these pedals easy to get into? Do they provide adaquate rotation? Is the large size of the pedal an advantage or disadvantage? Interesting, Shimano borrowed LOOKs pedal design, now LOOK is borrowing from Shimano. Bob