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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

2665.0. "Maintaing the Cardio-Vascular system" by KIRKTN::GGOODMAN (Rippled, with a flat underside) Mon Aug 30 1993 12:30

    
    Another though that occured to me. 2 in the same month, I'm getting
    worried...
    
    Because I've been on and off the bike so much, I am not as fit as I
    should be. And that's putting it mildly... But, one thing that I've
    noticed is that I don't run out of breath on the bike, it's just that I
    feel the strength sapping out of the legs at an alarming rate of knots.
    
    Why? I have it down to one of three things:-
    
    1) I raced from 13-18. When my body was growing, I forced my
    cardio-vascular system to grow at an unusually fast rate. As a result,
    I know have a naturally large cardio-vascular system.
    
    2) Much the same as 1), but without the age restriction. Even if I
    develop my cardio-vascular at 28 and give up 10 years later, my heart
    and lungs will still be well developed long after I have finished
    because it is something that doesn't degenerate unlike muscle build.
    
    3) Because my muscle build is in such a sorry state, I am not in a
    position to seriously tax my cardio-vascular. I will never notice this
    because as my muscle build improves, so will my cardio-vascular leaving
    in the same position, but stronger.
    
    Any comments?
    
    Graham.
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2665.1CONNECTIONS?WMOIS::GIROUARD_CMon Aug 30 1993 12:568
     I've got the same problem. My legs give out before anything else.
    I did wonder how much of it is connected, though... In other words,
    does anyone know how much the cardio vascular system impacts the
    muscles through their ability or inability to deliver badly needed
    oxygenated blood to the muscles??? This may disprove the "one piece
    of me is stronger than the other" theory...
    
       Chip
2665.2LASSIE::ZIELONKOThu Sep 02 1993 16:311
could it be somehow related to the riding style?
2665.3MOVIES::WIDDOWSONRain and snow-makerWed Sep 15 1993 04:3814
    Graham
    
    You need not tax you c/v system very much to put on strength (which of
    course is not the same as muscle), I did some very useful strength
    training this winter and never put my heart rate about 130.  What's more
    the actually training took about 30 minutes (+warm up + stretch +warm
    down +stretch).  I'll dig out the books that my gym produces about 
    1) c/v (fitness) training and 2) weight training and send them to you.
    
    For myself having never done any training until I was about 28, as each
    season develops the pain point moves from heart to lungs, to legs and
    back again depending on which bit of me has the momentary advantage...
    
    /r
2665.4PAKORA::GGOODMANRippled, with a flat undersideWed Sep 15 1993 07:0530
    Re. Rod (Guess who is catching up on Notes...  :*)
    
>    You need not tax you c/v system very much to put on strength (which of
>    course is not the same as muscle), I did some very useful strength
>    training this winter and never put my heart rate about 130.
    
    Two points:-
    
    	1. I agree with the c/v-strength. Weight builders demonstrate that.
    However, I don't think that this is just down to that relationship. I
    feel that my cardio-vascular hasn't degenerated to the same extent as
    my strength. Which brings me to...
    
    	2. I'm not sure what you mean by strength not being the same as
    muscle. It's not the same as muscle size, but the "muscle bulk", for
    want of a better word, is important. Quality muscle rather than quantity
    muscle, and yes, I know how silly that sounds...
        
>    For myself having never done any training until I was about 28, as each
>    season develops the pain point moves from heart to lungs, to legs and
>    back again depending on which bit of me has the momentary advantage...
    
    	Maybe, it's down to natural physiology. I don't know what my VO2
    Max is, I would have to check with Health Services at SQF to find out.
    There are times where my lungs have burst, but they seem to correspond
    to times that I was flying. Nearly always, I suffered in the legs more.
    
    	God knows how that fits into my base note...  :*)
    
    Graham.