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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

2264.0. "Questions on purchasing a MTB" by ISLNDS::SCHWABE () Fri May 01 1992 17:21

    
    I'm in the market for a Mountain Bike and I have a few questions:
    
    I like some of the TREK's I've looked at (the 950,990,970,7000, and 
    8000 models).
    
    $1000 is the max I'll spend, but if I can go cheaper why not!
    
    The 990 has a front suspension fork (DS2 model). How does that
    compare with the DDS3 fork on their higher end bikes?
    
    Is supsension really worth the extra weight penalty and cost?
    
    Lx vs. DX components? Whats the difference? Worth the extra cost for
    DX?
    
    Some Schwinn Paramount Mountain bikes I've seen have the shifters on
    top of the handlebars, where the TREKS are all on bottom of the bar.
    Any thoughts on this?
    
    Lets revisit the aluminum vs. steel frame controversy. Some treks have
    steel and others aluminum frames. 
    
    Hers the model summary:
    
      950 - steel frame       970 - steel frame       990 - steel frame
            LX components           DX components           DX components
            no suspension           no suspension           front suspension
            $689                    $849                    $999
    
     7000 - aluminum frame   8000 - aluminum frame
            LX components           DX components
            no suspension           no suspension
            $779                    $999
    
    So far all I've done is look in the stores and catalogs and barely
    talked to the sales people. I've not ridden any models yet.
    
    
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2264.1YNGSTR::BROWNFri May 01 1992 17:598
    some thoughts...
    Take a look at a previous note "Specialized Future Shock" for
    some ramblings about shocks and I also mentioned a comparison
    with a Trek 7000.  The DDS2 is fixed, whereas the DDS3 is adjustable.
    An XTR-equipped brake/shift (everything else DX) Future Shock
    would be just over your limit.  I looked at upgrading a 7000 or
    8000 with DDS3 and XTR, but went with Specialized instead
    (despite being a satisfied aluminum Trek road bike owner).  .02 kb
2264.2Go for the front suspension!COOKIE::KELLERSat May 02 1992 23:5326
    On the suspension issue, if you are going to do any amount of serious
    off road work, the suspension seems to be well worth it (for sure on
    the front fork, rear suspension adds another level of complexity and
    cost and still seems to be going through the refinement stages)
    
    I recently added to a Rock Shox Mag 20 fork to my old MTB and I love it!
    Some of the advantages I have noticed:
    	- Comfort on long rides.
    	- Improved front wheel traction and braking.
    	- Better climbing on rough uphills, I don't find myself
    	  as concerned with obstacles when climbing, just concentrate on
    	  cadence and traction while the front wheel kinda just floats 
    	  over that rock or root in the way.
    	- Incredible control on fast rough descents, enough to get you 
    	  in some real trouble real quick ;-)
    
    The Rock Shox is adjustable, I am not sure how important this is if you
    ride strictly off road.  I usually leave it at the lower, more
    compliant setting for best ride.  I suppose if you did a lot of 
    smoother road riding, this may be important.
    
    I have seen the Specialized with the Future Shock, for under 1K, this
    appears to be a very nice mount at a good price (consider that most
    aftermarket shocks are $400 alone)  
    Have Fun!
    	Greg
2264.3Test Ride! Don't just look!ESKIMO::HUIMon May 04 1992 14:0149
    >$1000 is the max I'll spend, but if I can go cheaper why not!
    
    >Is supsension really worth the extra weight penalty and cost?
    
    >Lx vs. DX components? Whats the difference? Worth the extra cost for
     DX?
    
    >Some Schwinn Paramount Mountain bikes I've seen have the shifters on
    >top of the handlebars, where the TREKS are all on bottom of the bar.
    >Any thoughts on this?
    
    >Lets revisit the aluminum vs. steel frame controversy. Some treks have
    >steel and others aluminum frames. 
    
    
    1. $1,000 is alot of bike for the first time Mt. biker. How about clothing
       and accessories (Helmut, Gloves, bottle cages, etc..)? Is that included 
       in your $1K budget?

    2. All the guys that ride Mt. bike real seriously at our shop would not
       buy a bike without suspension anymore. The question is are you planning
       to race, ride with friends who are at that level aleady or are you
       just going to do this for recreation?

    3. The LX verse DX is a matter of preference. The DX is a little smoother
       and a little better quality. You get what you paid for.

    4. Top verse bottom shifter: Most of the top end bikes are back to the
       top shifter. The top shifters have there advantages in weight, Friction
       or SIS, not integrated with the brakes, maintenace. The botton shifter
       are design for ergonomics. 

    5. Steel verse Aluminum: Ride them both you you decide. Then ride othe 
       companies bike in the same material to compare. Do not just try out 
       Treks and make the purchase. Look at other brands to compare.

       For example:

       Steel - Specialized, Bridgestone, GT, Fischer, etc...
       Al    - Cannondale, Schwinn, Raleigh etc...

       Don't just compare the components. Each bike will ride a little
       differently. Test ride several models of each before making your
       decision.

       Good Luck,

dave