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| 2038.1 | Don't know, but... | MAIL::ALBERT | | Tue Aug 13 1991 17:08 | 12 |
| I doubt it will work, but I have no personal experience to say for
sure. I know people who have had very little luck with mixing the
reverse combination, with Shimano Hyperglide cluster and Suntour
derailleur.
BTW, Suntour makes both a long- and short-cage XC Pro rear derailleur.
And you might try a Sachs/Maillard freewheel--they have profiled teeth,
sort of like pseudo- Hyperglide. They work great with Suntour indexed
systems and you don't have to mess with Shimano freehubs, Hyperglide
chains, etc.
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| 2038.2 | You want strong components for a tandem... | CTHQ2::FRERE | Ellas Danzan Solas | Wed Aug 14 1991 13:36 | 6 |
| Word of warning:
Sachs/Maillard freewheel may not survive for very long the stress
caused on a tandem (I shared this experience in another note...)
Eric
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| 2038.3 | STICKING WITH SUNTOUR | AKOCOA::FULLER | | Wed Aug 14 1991 15:21 | 8 |
| re. 2 Advise well taken. This is my reasn for buying Suntour.
I have heard that Suntour XC pro comes in both long and short cage, the
one I saw at Nashbar seemed a bit smaller than Shimano...I am not sure
if that was the longer or shorter version. With a 28/44/54 12-28 that
is a lot of chain wrap!
steve
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| 2038.4 | | ULTRA::WITTENBERG | Uphill, Into the Wind | Wed Aug 14 1991 18:31 | 10 |
| The XC-Pro rear deraileur from Nashbar is the short(er) cage. I
have one, and it shifts very well, but I'd like the longer cage to
get a little more chain tension on my recumbent with the double
length chain.
The XC-Pro rear deraileur controlled by a Grip-Shift is an
absolutely fantastic combination. You think about a shift and it
happens.
--David
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| 2038.5 | Think twice | RUTILE::MACFADYEN | You never listen to a word I say | Mon Aug 26 1991 11:15 | 13 |
| Re .0:
I'd be very nervous about laying out the sort of money you're talking
about if I wasn't sure a mixed system would work. Indexing requires
that the gear levers, derailleur and block all work to the same
spacing. Different systems must work to similar specs, but the same?...
If you're convinced that a mixed system is what you want, you should do
some more research. Haven't there been articles in the cycling press
about this?
Rod
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| 2038.6 | Didn't need to mix and match components after all | AKOCOA::FULLER | | Mon Aug 26 1991 13:18 | 9 |
| I found the long cage XC pro rear derailleur so no more problem.
In addition, I just remembered that I did this exact thing to a
friend's bike. (My memory must be going bye bye) She was going to
bike around Mt Ranier as part of the LAW ride so she needed a triple.
I put my Deore XT leaving the suntour shifters and freewheel. It worked
fine.
steve
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| 2038.7 | | CSCOAC::HOOD_R | | Mon Aug 26 1991 18:36 | 17 |
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I've also mixed and matched before.... no problem. Freewheel gear
spacing is usually the same.. eyeball it. The problem comes in the
shifter/derailleur.... shifters are set up to to pull a certain amount
of cable-per-click and deraillers are set up to move a certain a
certain amount of distance-per-amount-of-cable.
If the shifters pull the same amount of cable per click, they are
interchangeable. If the derailler moves the same amount of distance
per amount of cable, they are interchangeable. If either is
off JUST A LITTLE, then you will get "pseudo" indexed shifting ( it
works pretty good, but never perfectly... it always seems to be
just a little off). While some people like their index shifting to
be perfect, close is good enough for me.... I think this is why some
people say "no way" and some people say "no problem".
doug
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| 2038.8 | Non-index shifter replacement | RGB::SCOTT | | Wed Sep 04 1991 09:26 | 16 |
|
I have a slightly different problem - a friend's derailleur gave up
the ghost (the stop pin on the jockey cage sheared off). It was a
low end Shimano component, non-indexed. We looked in the Nashbar,
Performance, and Colorado Cyclist catalogs to find a replacement,
but it seems that there aren't *any* non-indexed derailleurs available
any more! So, the nearest choice seems to be either Shimano Exage or
Deore with the long cage. Largest freewheel cog is 32, BTW.
So, any advice, commentary, ideas? She wants to get this on the
road soon, as this is century month. (We just finished a trip
between ABO and Denver - talk about training!!)
Rob
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| 2038.9 | | ULTRA::WITTENBERG | Uphill, Into the Wind | Wed Sep 04 1991 10:05 | 11 |
| A derailleur designed for indexing will work fine with non-indexed
shifters, so choose which ever one strikes your fancy. Since
you're going to have an indexed derailleur, you might want to
think about going to indexed shifting eventually, so pick a
deraileur which will work with whichever indexed shift levers you
want to go to.
The next time you replace the freewheel, get new levers and you'll
have indexed shifting.
--David
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