Conference noted::bicycle

    Whenever I see gross stupidity like that I always sound off to the
    cyclist directly. Usually something along the lines of "you give
    cyclists a bad name, so next time I'm on a bike someone could get angry
    knock ME over". Makes 'em realise that your not just anti-cycling but
    concerned about them aswell.
    
    Either that or "Hey D**khead". Usually gets some response.
    
    Peter 

    DEAR FOLKS PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES
    EITHER ON A BIKE ,CARS ,AND MAYBE AT HOME.
    WHEN YOU GET HOSTILE OR CALL OTHERS NAMES KEEP IN MIND
    SOMEDAY IT WILL BE YOU IN THEIR SHOE. HOW WILL YOU FEEL?
    THQT GUY PROBABLY HAS NO MONEY TO OWN A BRIGHT FASHSIONABLE
    RIDING GEARS,OR MAYBE A CAR. OR HE MIGHT ALSO HAVE A GUN .
    

    
    re .2
>WLDWST::SANTOS_E                                      7 lines   9-FEB-1991 22:31
>                            -< BE COOL NOT A FOOL. >-
>    THQT GUY PROBABLY HAS NO MONEY TO OWN A BRIGHT FASHSIONABLE
>    RIDING GEARS,OR MAYBE A CAR. OR HE MIGHT ALSO HAVE A GUN .
    I can see him now.
    "Let's see. I'm going to be riding my bike at night and in the rain.
    I have to get something practical. Should it be the reflective goretex
    suit, or the .357? Hmmm."
    
    John

Close call for the day (now you guys don't have to have one; you may show
your appreciation by sending small bills to my mailstop...)

Driving to work this a.m. about 7, came around a blind-ish corner on the
country road I live on, and ZOWIE, it's 2 kids on MTB's, one riding 
down the center of each lane of travel, both headed for me. Managed to
squeeze thru the middle of the two; as I looked in the mirror they were still
riding the same way. Amazing. Makes ya wonder how folks make it to adulthood.

                             ken

    Well, I first thought I might just let you folks go on about the
    tactical nuclear cruise missles this guy was carying - on his low
    budget beater - but I hope guess you've made your point by now.
    I was the 'stupid SOB' and I guess I'm a dammed fool for letting
    some design meetings get in the way of my 'free and easy' lifestyle
    of gear-head existance.  The facts: I dropped my car off at the 
    gas-station (2 miles away) and had thrown my Wicked Fat Beater in
    the trunk.  Yes, I forgot my Giro and THAT was not bright.  I had
    every intention of getting back to pick up my car before dark, but
    the design team needed my help, and MY job comes first.  As for the
    ride itself, it sucked... and if some 'jerk' had tried to run me off
    the road, well, I would have just rode onto the shoulder (or somebody's
    front lawn).  But I would have been more pissed than Ed, here, because
    it's my life, not his vanity.  
    
    A much more nobel response would have been to offer some assistance,
    since somebody riding in the dark in the rain is not doing it for fun.
    I would have appreciated that, and maybe you would have found a new
    riding partner.  Oh well....
    
    Aggression (verbal or physical) isn't going to help cars and bikes
    co-exist.  Please remember there's another side to the story.  And, to 
    the dissapointment to most of you... I didn't carry a .44 magnum.  You
    guys are really brutal!
    
    mark
    
    PS: Ed, were you the one who ran the stop sign at the end of the
    parking lot - or was that some other barbarian motorist?
    

>    every intention of getting back to pick up my car before dark, but
>    the design team needed my help, and MY job comes first.
    I consider my job important too, but not at the expense of my
    life. It's admirable you stayed late to help the effort, but is
    is worth risking life or limb?
    As an aside, if you're willing to bend for your design team,
    couldn't one of them return the favor and drive you 2 miles to
    your car?
    
>    A much more nobel response would have been to offer some assistance,
>    since somebody riding in the dark in the rain is not doing it for fun.
>    I would have appreciated that, and maybe you would have found a new
>    riding partner.  Oh well....
    Nobel perhaps, but risky also. I'd neither offer a ride to a biker
    nor accept one offered to me if I was out.
    
    John

Since you forgot you helmet, you'd probably have forgotten reflective clothing, 
lights, etc.  I think we all need to remember that it's sometimes tough to 
differentiate between an idiot and someone who made a mistake.

I used to think reflective bands, vests, and lights were nerdy.  Now my beater 
bike (that is, my ultramarathon bike) has reflective tape everywhere and plenty 
of lights, and anytime I could possibly be caught out at night, that's the bike 
I ride.  And I'm quite glad I've got it.  I even turn the lights on BEFORE its 
dark, just to help insure that I'm seen.

Don't be so sure about someone riding in the rain in the dark needing help... Ed
does it for fun! :^)  (hey Ed, long time, no hear...)

Kevin

    re. -1
    	
    	You'll never catch me riding at MK around quitting
    time even if I'm lit up like a candle.  I can't begin to tell
    you all of the close calls I had riding in every morning
    (wife use to drive me home at night).  Seems like drivers
    aren't expecting to see bikers (or runners) on those roads.
    Perhaps security should run some lunch time seminars to
    help make MK (probably ZK also) drivers aware of the dangers
    that exist especially in the winter time when snow banks become
    another obsticle to driving vision.
    					_Jerry

    	Re - .6/.7
    
    	A much more noble spelling of the word "noble" would've been nice.
    
    	NOBEL is a humanitarian award given to those who promote the
    	cause of peace.
    
    	No flames here, just a spelling lesson.
    
    	Oh, I almost forgot, Obstacle is not spelled "obsticle".
    
    	I know what you're saying...  "Shut up face..."
    
    	Ok, ok, ok...
    
    							Regards...

>           <<< Note 1838.10 by USWAV7::CLELAND "Why, I oughta..." >>>
>
>    	NOBEL is a humanitarian award given to those who promote the
>    	cause of peace.
    
    ...established by the man who invented and made a fortune from
    Dynamite. Guilt feelings?
    
    
    Rod

    
    	Yo Mark,
    		It looks like the weather is setting up for some riding
    soon. I'm still gonna check out those trails.
    	There's no bicycle helmet law so it's your skull 8*) I'm surprised
    everybody didn't get out and scold you. Aren't you the kid that used to
    get his lunch money stolen in school?
    
    	Roger

    Our lunch time crew had a close call in Dunstable Mass the other day. A
    fellow in a red Camarro tried to side swipe the three us. He missed me
    by less than an inch.  Unfortunately not one us could catch the plate
    number.
    -Larry