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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

1806.0. "Bianchi vs Mongoose, Shimano vs Suntour" by SALEM::SHAW (Vertical Obsession...) Wed Dec 19 1990 12:50

    
    Hello Friends, 
    
    Does anyone have any experience with Bianchi Mountain Bikes, I looked 
    at all the MTB related notes and did not find any reference. 
    I am in the process of picking up a mountain bike next week. Like 
    suggested somewhere in this notes file, I do agree that one should
    support their local bike shop. Well, my local bike shop, has but three
    choices in MTBs Mongoose, Giant, and Bianchi. I test rode all and there
    where two that I took a liking to immediately, the Mongoose IBOC PRO
    which has Shimano Deore DX components that I am pretty much familiar 
    with and the bike felt super comfortable. Now one other bike that is
    making it hard for me to decide was a Bianchi, it had a Sontur
    components on it and since I am not familiar with sontur at all, I do
    not remember the model, but the shop owner said it is top of the line
    How does sontur and Bianchi compare to Mongoose and the Deore DX?
    Both bikes road real nice, I liked the stiffness of the Mongoose better
    but I would be saving around $100.00 by getting the Bianchi. 
    I ride generaly off road, love to climb hills and a fast downhill, am 
    looking for qaulity more than cosmetics, as the Bianchi is realy
    colourful. Almost an imitation of the Fischer bikes. 
    
    P.S maybe I should add, I am the guy who entered note 1645, seeking
    legal advice 'cause I got hit by a truck, my Miyata was totaled. 
    It took seven months to manage to settle out of court for a reasonable
    sum. 
    
    Shaw
    
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1806.1my vote for the MongooseDOGONE::WOODBURYWed Dec 19 1990 13:5811
    I can't speak for the Bianchi, but the Mongoose PRO is a great ride.
    I have 5 friends who have either the Comp, PRO or Team and they all
    are really happy with them.  They also hold up well to the off-road
    hammering (although they still can't keep up with my Wicked!).
    
    Also, You might want to consider the Exeter Bike Shop.  Great place,
    the owner (John Gromack) was in the Olympics in '68 and is still
    very dedicated.  And they carry Mongoose so you can compare... (He
    also carries Fat City '8^) ).
    
    mark
1806.2Bridgestone & C-daleORIENT::HUIWed Dec 19 1990 16:375
    How did you make out wit your laywer? Did you get everything back?
    
    Check out the C-dale OMC and Bridgestone MB3 & 4.
    
    Huey 
1806.3HPSTEK::RGOODThu Dec 20 1990 11:326
    
    	For what should be about $200.00 difference don't screw around.
    Get the Mongoose team Magenta in color and Deore XT in components.
    It also has some other quality points worth looking into.
    
    	Roger
1806.4Well I made a choice.SALEM::SHAWVertical Obsession...Thu Dec 20 1990 13:4031
    
    Re:.2
    
    Well the insurance company for the other party being Allstate gave
    me a lot of hassle at first and threw all kinds of cut outs at me
    re: how bicycles are considered a vehicle and should obay the law
    blah blah, but the thing was that I never did any wrong . 
    Anyhow their first offer was $1500.00 and after one rejection
    they offered $4500.00 this includes a third for the lawyers.
    My other choices were to wait between 18 months to two years to take
    them to court or settle, I took the later.
    As for Roger's recommendation, Rog. I wish I had seen your note before
    my purchase.  I went up to the bike shop, they had the pro, comp and 
    sport assembeled and the team still in the box.
    For 91 the IBOCs have over size fork and headsets. They come with the 
    new Araya CV-7 rims and the comp has the Deore LX instead of the Exage
    500.
    Well behind the shop there is a park with some hills and a half mile 
    down the road there is a sand pit which made it pretty good to test
    ride these bikes. 
    I used to have the Deore XT (with Thumb shifters) on the bike that got
    totaled.  So I am not sure how much of a sacrifice I made but the
    difference as far as shifting between the DX and LX was so minimal that
    I could not realy tell, other than that they road about the same. I
    loved both. But since I was saving $75.00 on the Comp which would allow
    for a new helmet, plus I like the color on the Comp better I went for
    the Comp.  Did I make a mistake Rog.?
    I hope I get to meet up with some of you and get to do some trails and
    stuff. Thanks for the tips.
    
    Shaw
1806.5HPSTEK::RGOODFri Dec 21 1990 09:3721
    
    	Number one, you're going to love the bike. Number two you're
    going to wish for this and that. Six months from now you tell me
    if you made a mistake. My advice is that it's not too late to return it
    if you've got the get to purchase the team. Otherwise all the IBOC
    frames look solid. What kind of tires did you get? The IBOCS take
    a fat one because they are wishbone.
    	The people I ride with always welcome others. We look for the
    'right' terrain. I want to go to Rutland State Park sometime.
    Next year I'm going to put a major ride together up in Crawford
    Notch on a trail called the Davis Path. It sounds good. Right now
    I'm gathering info on it and I'll scout it out first. It may end up
    an overnight. Sometime around 1900 this guy Davis had a riding
    outfit in the White Mtns. and he built this bridal path with oxen
    that is supposed to be graded and have some heavy duty stone work.
    He went out of business when the carriages started to carry people
    up thru there and the trail grew in till about ten years ago the
    AMC went in with an old woodsman pointing the way and opened it up
    again.
    
    	Roger
1806.6could still change to the PRO but should I?SALEM::SHAWVertical Obsession...Fri Dec 21 1990 13:2922
    
    Roger, Keep me in mind if you guys go on any mtb rides, especially 
    the one day trips. I know I like to spend all my time skiing but 
    the way its been (current conditions) I might prefer some biking
    instead. I can still get the PRO for an extra $70.00 There were really
    two reasons why I got inclined to get the Comp, first was the front
    delairure going from high to low keep missing the second gear. Jumped 
    from high to all the way low, and then the chain poped. I guess nothing 
    that a little fine tunning wouldn't cure. But the Comp had no problems
    at my test ride.  Plus I just prefer the white and black frame to the 
    all black.(although some might think its a stupid reason for choosing 
    a bike.) The only differnce was really the DX and LX and I just could
    not feel any quickness difference. Now the team is another story, it
    seems like it has a different head/seat angel. All in all I don't think
    there is much difference between the pro and comp. there was last year 
    the comp last year had the Exage components. 
    The tires are the Mongoose all terrain 1.95 which I like because they 
    are faster. I had a pair of 2.15 on my old bike, and it just added a 
    lot of weight to the bike and also slowed it down some. 
    Well I'll either see you on the slopes or some moutain trail somewhere!
    
    Shaw 
1806.7the PRO was the choice..SALEM::SHAWVertical Obsession...Wed Dec 26 1990 07:588
    
    Well, this past weekend I got to take out both the comp and pro for 
    a long ride on some hills. Did some descent climbing and road through
    mud, water etc. This time I did notice a difference between the two 
    bikes, I ended up bringing home the PRO. 
    
    Shaw
    
1806.8interesting spello...NOVA::FISHERRdb/VMS DinosaurWed Dec 26 1990 08:146
    I couldn't resist this one, sorry.  :-)
    
    descent climbing?  No, no, you got it backwards, you're supposed
    to climb the ups and race like H*** on the descents...
    
    ed
1806.9SP?SALEM::SHAWVertical Obsession...Wed Dec 26 1990 08:233
    
    RE:-1 Spelling mistake what I meant was 'decent' meaning fairly nice,
    
1806.10:-)NOVA::FISHERRdb/VMS DinosaurWed Dec 26 1990 09:034
    I know.  Hey, we get a warped sense of humor when we're shut in for
    a day or two.  [Or maybe it was the new Nintendo ... :-)]
    
    ed