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1644.1 | Try this method, then grease the new one | STARCH::WHALEN | Personal Choice is more important than Political Correctness | Tue Jul 17 1990 19:37 | 13 |
| Well the problem is corrosion that has caused the two pieces to weld
themselves together.
A technique that might work is to take the wheel off, invert the bike,
resting the top tube on something firm. Find something strong, thin
and long enough to go in to the hole on the bottom side of the steering
tube (the bolt might work), take your hammer and give it a couple of
hits. This may loosen it so that you can remove it. You may also have
to remove the brake before doing this. When you go to put the new one
in grease it first, this will reduce the probability of corrosion in
the future.
Rich
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1644.2 | time and temperature | ABACUS::GUYER | | Wed Jul 18 1990 10:07 | 7 |
| Give the liquid wrench some time to work before you get crazy.
Sometimes even a couple of day, soaking it good every now and then, is
needed for it work the corrsion loose. If your bike is steel and your
stem is aluminum temperature changes might help. Try to get the frame
warm and the stem cold (ice bag and a torch?). Good luck.
Earl
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1644.3 | boil some water | MATE::PJOHNSON | | Wed Jul 18 1990 10:23 | 6 |
| I had a similar problem with my crank set a few years ago. To apply
heat I poured boiling water over the crank arm and that did the trick.
It's worth a try, and it won't harm your bike.
Regards,
Phil
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1644.4 | Don't ride the bike w/out the wedge in place!!! | SUSHI::KMACDONALD | Hat floating? It's MUD SEASON! | Wed Jul 18 1990 10:26 | 11 |
| Might try removing the brake, clamping the fork crown 'twixt a couple blocks of
wood and try to rotate the HB's. Avoid putting too much stress on the forks,
especially don't try & twist via the fork blades. If you haven't already,
invert the bike and squirt Liq. Wrench in from the bottom too, and give
it plenty of time to work. As another possibility, by inverting the bike you
may be able to re-connect the stem's lost wedge, too, and a few cycles of
tighten/loosen on that may assist the process. Be careful when using
the BFH, as you can cause a fair amount of damage to things like headsets,
head tube, top tube, etc. if they aren't supported well....
G'luck!
ken
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1644.5 | Vinegar to the rescue! | KOOZEE::PAULHUS | Chris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871 | Wed Jul 18 1990 11:10 | 7 |
| Don't laugh at this, but what you need for a frozen/corroded stem
is a vinegar bath! Invert the bike and fill the head tube with vinegar.
Wait a day or so, and it should just twist out.
What you've got is galvanic action corrosion between the aluminum
stem and the steel steerer tube that comes up from the fork. You want
to attack this with a mild acid, not a lubricant like liquid wrench.
Vinegar does the trick. - Chris
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1644.6 | Thanks! | TLE::TLE::SASAKI | Marty Sasaki ZK02-3N30 381-0151 | Wed Jul 18 1990 11:31 | 9 |
| I will give each of the suggestions a try, starting with the last one,
vinegar (I guess I should get something cheap rather than use my SO's
Balsamic, herbal vinegar). The stem is aluminum and the tube is steel.
If that doesn't work I'll try the liquid wrench from the bottom...
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll let you know what happens...
Marty
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1644.7 | Still stuck! | TLE::SASAKI | Marty Sasaki ZK02-3N30 381-0151 | Tue Sep 10 1991 15:56 | 17 |
| Well, it's over a year later and the stem is still firmly attached to
the fork. I tried longer periods of liquid wrench (from both the bottom
and the top). I tried the vinegar, which resulted in large amounts of
rust colored vinegar to leak all over the floor :-). I tried all sorts
of variations of holding the fork crown and twisting, banging on
various bits. I even tried the old Coca-cola trick (maybe I should try
the various types of Coke...).
In the mean time I bought a relatively inexpensive ATB, which doesn't
ride as nicely as the Vita Sprint, but it does have neato index
shifting and I don't have to worry as much about road hazards as I did
with the road bike.
When I get more serious about riding, I'll take the bike into a shop
and let them try, maybe they'll have better luck...
Marty
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1644.8 | Try Break-Free | ECAD2::CANFIELD | | Tue Sep 24 1991 16:39 | 10 |
| Marty,
I don't know if is too late (or where you live) but I use a
product called Break-Free CLP (it is product most often used by
shooters) that might do the trick. I guy in our group had the
same problem and this worked. You should be able to find it
at most gun stores (or sporting good stores that cater to shooters).
It comes in both spray and liquid form. If you live or work in the
Maynard area there are a few places around that carry it.
Quinn
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1644.9 | I'll give it a try... | TLE::SASAKI | Marty Sasaki ZK02-3N30 381-0151 | Tue Sep 24 1991 19:08 | 6 |
| I give it a try. My cheapy ATB isn't nearly as nice as my old bike. It
certainly can't hurt...
Thanks.
Marty
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1644.10 | Let it sit a while | ECAD2::CANFIELD | | Wed Sep 25 1991 09:43 | 3 |
| Let it sit for a couple of hours.....
Quinn
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