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1623.1 | | WILKIE::LANDRY | | Thu Jul 05 1990 18:34 | 9 |
| I don't think click shift is going to solve your problem. If
your bike is changing gears 'cause the derailleur's actually
moving, you need to tighten up the shifter, etc. If that's
not it, the chain could be jumping around due to worn chain
and freewheel. Since you imply that it only does it when
you're climbing, this is likely. It will still do it with
click shift unless you fix the real problem.
chris
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1623.2 | | DEMON::RUHROH::FREEMAN | It's not my fault! | Fri Jul 06 1990 11:47 | 11 |
| .1 only answered part of the question, but did not address the 2nd paragraph:
> I am broadening the range on the freewheel from 14-24 to 13-28.
> A new freewheel needs a new chain. And Click obviously requires
> new shifters. Can I salvage the old derailleur? Its Suntour ARX
> 6-speed. Do I need matched (Suntour) components, or can I mix in
> a Sedisport chain or a Shimano freewheel?
(I point this out because I also want to broaden my freewheel range
and want to know whether I need to replace my stuff with Suntour
components!)
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1623.3 | | STARCH::WHALEN | Personal Choice is more important than Political Correctness | Fri Jul 06 1990 15:19 | 11 |
| I'm uncertain about what you mean by "click shift".
Are you talking indexed shifting? If that is the case, then you generally need
to have a matched freewheel/derailleur/shifters, because everything has to move
certain amounts.
There are (were?) also shifters that clicked when you moved them, but were still
basically a friction setup. I doubt that this is what you would be getting as
this was before indexed shifting and was put in there to provide some feedback.
Rich
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1623.4 | Standards???? | TALLIS::JBELL | Zeno was almost here | Fri Jul 06 1990 15:52 | 17 |
| (in .3) I think that he meant indexed shifting.
What we really need is a table for each variety of shift lever
that says "This shifter moves N.NN millimeters per click"
Also, we need a table for each rear deraileur that says
"This gear changer has chain-displacement to cable-movement
ratio of N.N"
Finally, get a table for each kind of freewheel or cassette hub
that says "These cogs are N.NN millimeters apart."
If you multiply the first number by the second number and
get the third number, then the system will work, right?
Or is it more complicated than that?
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1623.5 | WHy is it jumping? | USMRM5::MREID | | Fri Jul 06 1990 16:06 | 13 |
| One reason gears 'jump' was already mentioned ... worn chain/cogs.
Another reason is frame flex; I believe the flex stretches the cable
very slightly, but enough for the chain to jump under load.
My brother has a problem with his Vitus jumping gears on uphills.
The frame flexes so much, and his cable is so long (bar end shifter on
the end of a Sark bar), that the cable stretches when the frame flexes.
His solution is to consider a new frame, since he won't give up the
bar-end shifter. I'm bummer he's considering a new frame; the only way
I'd beat him up hills was when his chain jumped a gear!
Mark
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1623.6 | Non-uniform spacing! | DEBUG::SCHULDT | I'm Occupant! | Fri Jul 06 1990 17:26 | 4 |
| re .-1
I recall from an article in Bicycling Magazine some time back that
the cog spacing (at least on Shimano) isn't uniform. Guess it's _not_
quite that simple.
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1623.7 | Could be done | BSS::ANSON | | Fri Jul 06 1990 17:44 | 17 |
| 1. You need to find your present "auto-shifting" problem.
Could be frame/b.b flex, worn parts or adjustments.
2. You can do a "controlled" upgrade, but stay with one brand.
Some chains will work with multiple setups.
3. If staying Suntour, find what chains work the best with suntour.
Install new freewheel and new chain. See if Shifting OK.
If not; buy Suntour rear der. for 13/28 rear and present front
gearing index compatible.
4. If wanted, swap shifter and cables (Suntour).
So you could go this way, if you want. But be sure that all
New part are compatible. There are some magazine articles that
desribe this, (time at local library) or call performance, nashbar
or any GOOD bike shop.
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1623.8 | Status of inquiries ... | 2HOT::RAK | | Mon Jul 09 1990 23:34 | 21 |
| Thanks for the input so far... here's where I am:
Goodale's suggested gear jumping may be worn shifter bushing. I am
investigating. They suggested matched upgrade components: indexed shifter/
derailleur/freewheel/chain.
Bike Nashbar suggested I could salvage the derailleur, and also mix in
the Sedisport chain on the Suntour freewheel. (They don't carry the
Suntour chain - Performance does.)
My current plan is to buy Suntour shifters and freewheel hoping the
Accushift gruppo is downward compatible with the ARX 6-speed
derailleur, as noted earlier. I'll risk it with the sedisport chain.
Re - .2: Increasing gear range with your existing derailleur is known.
Pick up Nashbar or Performance and check your (or similar) derailleur
gear teeth capacity and maximum gear teeth. This determines your
freewheel range.
Thanks, all. SR
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