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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

1487.0. "building your own bike rack." by TFH::DONNELLY (Take my advice- Don't listen to me) Thu Apr 05 1990 10:42

    i thought i'd start a new note on building your own bike rack.  i've
scanned the existing notes and they are all related to buying.  one had a
mention of a plan in "the complete bicycle book".  does anyone have this
that would be willing to copy the plan in the back and mail it to me? 

    two freinds of mine have built their own using variations on a theme. 
the difference is smooth roof or existing dealer type roof rack.  the
result is the same with two 2x4's with quick release mechanisms to grab the
front forks and a u-bolt to fix the rear wheel. 

    i plan on putting together a four bike version of the same type.  so
far i've obtained a gm roof rack from the junk yard and installed it (no
small task in itself).  this was necessary since i have a nissan stanza
wagon with no gutters and sliding doors on both sides. 

    what i need now are ideas/suggestions for: holding the axle/skewers for
the quick release simply and rigidly.  where to get some axles/skewers
without buying new (any out there?).  holding the front wheels up there.
fixing the rear wheels simply/quickly. 

    i think the result of this could be a fairly simple plan and parts 
list for a homebuilt rack that is sturdy, reliable, and cheap.  the only 
weak spot i see is security, and who knows we might be able solve that too.

thanks,
craig

ps. one idea for holdings the front hardware is to bolt down a piece of 
rectangular aluminum channel which is 3" wide and put the axle through it.  
it works well but that alum. channel is not common.
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1487.1Frugal Bicyclist's Roof RackNCDEL::VENTURAWherever you go, there you are!Thu Apr 12 1990 12:3224
    Craig,
    
    Sorry I did not reply earlier, but I am assigned to a customer site and
    do not get into the system as often an I would like.
    
    I too am considering a "do-it-yourself" roof bicycle rack.  I have the
    edition of Sloan's "Complete Bicycle" book (1974 edition) and have made
    a copy of the section on the rack.  I will drop it in the mail this
    Friday.  What is your mail stop?
    
    My ideas on building a rack are based on a roof rack from K-Mart that I
    have on my '86 Chevy Celebrety.  Quick release front axle skewers are 
    availible from Performance and cost about $6.00 apiece.  I plan on
    using pieces-parts from the hardware store too, but aluminum is not
    cheap.  I might go with treated wood or perhaps some plastic pipe cut
    lenghtwise.  A small bungie cord or perhaps a section of old tire tube
    could be used to secure the rear wheel.  A real cop-out would be to buy
    the add-on kit for a commercial rack and modify it to mount on my
    K-Mart rack ($38.00/per bike).
    
    I'll mail you the Sloan bike rack stuff, and throw in an old
    Performance catalog.  Let me know what you final design is.
    
    Dave
1487.2what i've done so far.TFH::DONNELLYTake my advice- Don't listen to meThu Apr 12 1990 14:1631
dave,

my mail stop is shr1-3/c12.  thanks for anything you send.

i have built a rack but given up the idea of producing something that 
anyone with a screwdriver and hardware store could throw together.

i found some scrap 3x2" rectangular aluminum box channel and made some
holes through to accept an axle.  some washers for spacing and a quick
release skewer and that will grab the fork.  i mounted that onto a 2x4
which spanned the roof rack.  at the rear i cut a long u-bolt into a j-bolt
to hold the rear wheel down.  i made four of these setups and swapped them
front-rear-front-rear to get four bike capacity.  i bolted the 2x4's to the 
roof rack with u-bolts.  am i being clear enough to get the general idea
across? 

the hard part is finding something to hold the fork.  steel u-channel would 
also work.  whatever it is needs to be strong enough to resist the high 
force of the quick release sqeeze and also side loading on the bike.  a 
block of 2x4 might also work (in fact i'm sure it would if bolted down 
securely).  

i assume you've got rack-to-car problem figured out with some type of 
gutter or gutterless clamps.

in any case i can send you a sketch of what i've done if you'd like.  i'm 
out of town next week though, i can try to get in on paper before i leave 
if you want it soon.  othewrwise i would do it after i get back.

thanks for the reply,
craig
1487.3oil finishTALLIS::JBELLZeno was almost hereThu Apr 12 1990 14:5317
> I might go with treated wood...

    I wouldn't worry about getting the treated stuff unless you're
    going to keep it on your car all the time.

    I put some watco "marine exterior finish" oil on mine, but just
    because I already had the stuff.  It smells a lot like linseed oil
    so you might do that instead.

    There wasn't any oil on it for the first 8 years of its life,
    but I didin't like the way it looked in the rain. (soggy)


    You might give thought to keeping all of the bike specific parts
    removable so that you could use it to carry other things.

    -Jeff Bell
1487.4Watch the fork blocksBOOKS::MULDOONI'll be right back - GodotMon Apr 16 1990 22:3528
    
       Perhaps I'm restating the obvious here, but keep in mind that
    the fork is *not* supported by the QR skewer. There is a shoulder
    on the fork block that supports the weight of the fork, the skewer
    only serves to compress the fork blades against the sides (ends)
    of the block.I'd hate to see anyone lose their bike because the
    skewer failed under loads that it wasn't intended to handle.
    
    
           |    |   <-------- Fork blades ---------->    |    |       / /
           |    |                                        |    |      / / 
                 ________________________________________           / /
      _       __|                                        |__       _|_| 
     / |     |            Fork block (or axle)              |     |    \
    |  |==========================================================|     |
     \_|     |__                                          __|     |____/
                |________________________________________|        skewer
          
           
        
         Sorry, it's the best I could do in ASCII.
    
    
                                                         Steve
    
    
    
    
1487.5good point -.1, and it works!TFH::DONNELLYTake my advice- Don&#039;t listen to meTue Apr 17 1990 23:4938
good point and better picture.  i can never get decent pictures out in 
ascii.  but see below.

    
    
           |    |   <-------- Fork blades ---------->    |    |       / /
           |    |                                        |    |      / / 
                                                                    / /
      _       __# # ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # #__       _|_| 
     / |     |  # # +     Fork block (or axle)       + # #  |     |    \
    |  |========#=#=+================================+=#=#========|     |
     \_|     |__# # +                                + # #__|     |____/
                # # ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # # ^      skewer
                 ^                                         |
                 |      this is the aluminum block         |
                 |      which is only 3" wide.             |
                 |                                     this is the axle 
              this is some washers and a               sticking out less 
              bearing locknut to space out             less than a dropout
              to the fork.                             thickness.

previous reply's picture, modified w/o permission.

about axle length.  i had a heck-of-a time finding an axle long enough to 
hold my zebra road fork.  it appears it is as long as a mountain bike axle, 
which is about 109mm, as opposed to about 106mm for a std road bike.  just 
enough difference to let the fork fall right over the shorter axle.

the moral to the story is:  if you make a rack like this you will some 
spare axles of both lengths if you intend to carry both road bikes and 
mountain bikes.

craig

ps. i carried one of each to cape cod (about 2 hours) this weekend.  it
worked great!  i can throw both bikes up there in about 5 min. or less
since the axles are there already now.