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| 1451.1 | Some Tre Volumetrica Info | CESARE::JOHNSON | Matt Johnson, DTN 871-7473 | Tue Mar 20 1990 14:12 | 20 |
| I've seen them in shows -- they look unnervingly similar to the
Raleigh "Technium" bikes, because they have a collar where each
tube joins a lug. The tubes are just a little fatter than on
normal steel bikes, and apparently have fiber wrapped around a
thin steel core. (Best of both worlds? Who knows?)
Prices run $1000 and up for a bare frame, depending on
the paint job (which can be spectacular). I'd never want to
ride a Masi, if I owned one, for fear of scratching or crashing
it. There more of a collectors' item than a bicycle, much as
an Aston-Martin would be.
Why have you zeroed in on these beasts? Maybe Aston-Martins
cost too much?
MATT
MATT
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| 1451.2 | NNow, my Ci�cc with the Campy 50th, that's a collector's item | CLYPPR::FISHER | Dictionary is not. | Tue Mar 20 1990 14:54 | 5 |
| GEE, MATT, I own a Masi, and yes it's scratched, it's even been crashed
but it took a lickin an' kept on tickin. 'Course, it's not a 3V, it's
only a Nuovo Strada.
ed
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| 1451.3 | Have you driven a ??? | UJEST::POST | | Wed Mar 21 1990 09:39 | 29 |
| I have no experience with 3v's BUT
HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FIORELLI LATELY !!
Not pricey at all,
Top notch workmanship,
SLX tubing,
Campy dropouts,
Cutout lugs,
Stiffeness is their middle name,
Availibility is good,
Choice of colors is good,
Durability is awsome!! (I went down REAL HARD last season no problems
with the bike, I got wasted!!)
If you need a gruppo they'll bend over backwards,
some people have had a tough time with the paint jobs.
I happen to be one of these people but I really rode my bike hard
and wasn't keeping up with it like I sould have
( any tips on paint care for bikes would be nice
if somebody has some good ideas I just got mine re-painted after
two years of neglect ).
If your interested you can contact JIM at Cycle City in Plaistow
NH (right over the MA border off I495)
Phone 382-1820
He has a few in stock and can order you one and have 2nd day air
if your like me and need NOW...
MORE DAYLIGHT PLEASE !!
ERIC
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| 1451.4 | why? because it's there... | TOMCAT::GOODWIN_S | | Wed Mar 21 1990 18:36 | 18 |
| Thanks for the info!!
re: .1 why have I focused on a 3V? .3 hit the nail on the head:
stiffness.... I've heard that the 3V is about the stiffest steel
frame racing bike ever built. I prefer steel to aluminum due to
it's resistance to fatigue. I'm also a bit wary about composites
for fear of potential catastrophic frame failure... I know it seems
unlikely, but it's kind of like the same rationale that I'd never
live in California because of the San Andreas fault...
Right now, I'm riding a Colnago Super which I really like, but I'm
ready for a change, so I thought I might just be interested in
stepping up to the ultimate road bike.
Stay tuned.... I'll let y'all know when I make a move...
Thanks again!
Steve
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| 1451.5 | Ahem, | WLDWST::POLLARD | | Wed Mar 21 1990 18:44 | 8 |
| I know what you said, but I had to ask:
You're in the market for a GOOD racing bike or an ITALIAN racing
bike? (overlapping categories, to be sure.) For similar money,
there are some wonderful North American frames that could be made to
your measurements, or save money for off-the-rack. I'm thinking
of: Fuso, Marinoni, Peter Mooney, Lighthouse, Eisentraut, Cyclops,
Serotta, Spectrum, etc...
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| 1451.6 | Fatter tubes and stronger steel make MAX STIFF | CESARE::JOHNSON | Matt Johnson, DTN 871-7473 | Thu Mar 22 1990 04:18 | 9 |
| If you want a stiff steel bike, almost anything built with Columbus's
new MAX tubing will almost certainly be stiffer than a 3V. I talked
to a builder who tested an early frame for rear triangle stiffness --
deflection under load was less than half what the same producer's SLX
frame was. Basso, Rossin, Olmo, and others all offer MAX frames for
prices a bit lower than a Masi 3V.
MATT
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| 1451.7 | | LAGUNA::BARTHOLOM_RI | | Thu Mar 22 1990 19:08 | 10 |
| I have been used to riding Japanese framed cycles, part of living in
the West but what I would like to know is how much is frame? how much
is cyclist? I also have an old Winsor Professional which is campy
equipped and the cycle seems to be much more responsive than my
Bridgestone and I can't really understand the difference. The frames
seemed to be about the same geometry and I am not sure about the
stiffness that is how do you tell without testing equipment. I am more
of a weekend rider but with the coastal highway of San Diego to ride
along why not have a responsive cycle? and I have never been sure what
is fact and what is fiction.
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| 1451.8 | | TOMCAT::GOODWIN_S | | Thu Mar 22 1990 21:45 | 10 |
| hmmmm... I'll have to check out this new MAX tubing... I hadn't
heard of it before.
re: .5 Yes, I know there are many fine U.S. made bikes (I used
to live in Saratoga Springs, NY and know Ben Serotta personally),
but with all due respect to the master builders.... Italy really
wrote the book on racing bikes... and for my tastes, the American
bikes seem to be lacking (how should I say) a certain panache.
Steve (who_would__buy_a_Ferrari_too_if_he_won_megabucks)
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| 1451.9 | MASI FEVER! | TOMCAT::GOODWIN_S | | Thu Apr 05 1990 09:47 | 11 |
| Well... I promised I'd let you know when I made my decision.
I didn't end up getting a 3V, but I did buy a Masi. It's the
'Prestige' model which is made from conventional steel alloy
tubing w/ external lugs. From what I can gather, it's the
Italian counterpart of the American made Gran Criterium, but
with tighter frame geometry and steeper angles. Anyhow, it's
a really gorgeous road bike, and right now, I'm a very happy
camper with my new toy. I only wish the weather would hurry
up and dry out/warm up so I can begin to log some serious miles!
Steve
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