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1320.1 | TRY THIS... | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Tue Sep 26 1989 07:20 | 6 |
| Steve, I work in WMO and there is a small informal group here
that gets involved in rides. You might want to send an A-1
message to @CYCLING@WMO. I'll be doing the HOLLIS, N.H. Road
Race Saturday (weather permitting) so I'm out.
Chip
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1320.2 | Lets see a show of hands. | MCIS2::DELORIEA | Common sense isn't | Tue Sep 26 1989 10:47 | 7 |
| Steve,
Sounds good to me. I'll do it.
Any other takers....Com'on it will be a FUN ride
Tom
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1320.3 | Hilly ? | LEAF::GRACE | Wait, I'm LIVING in Grace-land! | Tue Sep 26 1989 15:23 | 5 |
| Can you describe the hilly parts as I'm quite unfamiliar (on the whole)
with the area. I though that Barre and parts of Worc. are real hilly?
Kicking around the idea,
Russ
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1320.4 | i even had to downshift to 2nd (just kidding) | SOUR::BERGEY | Double your IQ or no money back. | Tue Sep 26 1989 15:34 | 6 |
| I've never ridden the route, so I can't describe it first hand.
Perhaps someone else here has actually ridden it and will share
their thoughts. I did drive it, however, and I remember thinking,
"Good Lord, this is a long hill" a few times.
rsb
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1320.5 | But hey, we can climb it anyway | WITNES::HANNULA | Is there Aerobics for Cats? | Tue Sep 26 1989 16:07 | 7 |
| Well, Rt. 122 out of Worcester, past the Worcester airport up into
Paxton is one heck of a climb. Granted I've never done it on a
bike. It is one of those hills that has 2 lanes with a sign that
says "slow moving traffic keep right". Definitely a drive for 3rd
gear. I am unfamiliear with the rest of the roads.
-Nancy
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1320.6 | Bring your granny (gear) | STARCH::WHALEN | There are no words for these times | Tue Sep 26 1989 17:10 | 8 |
| Leaving Worcester on Rt 122 is probably the worst (part of the) hill. It's
basically one big hill (with a few dips and flat spots) from the starting point
to Rt 202. I haven't done all of this on a bike, but I've done the section
from the start point through Paxton and into Rutland. I don't know what I can
give people as a standard to compare it to. The hill may look terrible, but
I have gone up shorter hills that give me more problems than that one does.
Rich
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1320.7 | SCENIC CENTURY | AKOV11::FULLER | | Tue Sep 26 1989 17:18 | 8 |
| You'll encounter rolling/hilly terrain out of Worcester, into Barre
on Rt 122 and down 202. This is not a flat century!
Rt 32 and 202 are quite beautiful roads.
have fun
steve
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1320.8 | NICE RIDE/NOT FLAT | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Wed Sep 27 1989 08:38 | 13 |
| I've done part of it on an 87 miler starting on 2A going into
Athol and picking up Rte.202 there. From there, we travelled through
New Salem, Shutesbury and Belchertown (all on 202). Then we hooked
on Rte.9 and headed through Gilbertville into Barre. There are some
monsters. Especially on 202 on the west side of the Quabbin! We're
talkin' steady 5-6% grades for 2-3 miles. It is hilly. Even 9 is
hilly, but most of it is low gradual grades. Barre can kill ya unless
you stay on Rte.122. It is a nice ride though. The roads are good,
traffic not bad and the scenery is worth it.
My $.02
Chip
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1320.9 | | MCIS2::DELORIEA | Common sense isn't | Wed Sep 27 1989 10:37 | 14 |
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>> Well, Rt. 122 out of Worcester, past the Worcester airport up into
>> Paxton is one heck of a climb. Granted I've never done it on a
>> bike
I have and its not that bad, yes it is a long hill but it isn't as bad
as it looks. I remember the first time I rode up it and I kept saying,"Oh good
this must be the top", only to round a corner and see the hill still
continuing. A real mind game. Since then I have climbed this hill with no
problem, I just settle down and know in 4 miles I'll be able to coast again.
This is not a killer hill like Mt Wachusett or "Dead Horse Hill". This course
is hilly but has a lot of flat in between the hills.
Tom
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1320.10 | wimps - do it as a metric | ENGINE::PAULHUS | Chris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871 | Wed Sep 27 1989 11:52 | 10 |
| For NEAR '83, I set up the Metric Century to start at WSTC and
go out 122 to the north end of the Quabbin and return by the same
route. 122 is a beautiful road with wide sholders most of the way
and nice country. The hills are moderate (this comming from a
hill-wimp) with no horribly steep sections (probably nothing over
10% on this part), certainly nothing like parts of 62 going into
Princeton and Barre. The section around the Quabbin, on the other
hand, does get steep. You could wimp out at the 202/122 intersection
and enjoy a mostly downhill return and still do a Metric Century.
Gee, I could almost be interested in that! - Chris
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1320.11 | I'm psyched to do it! | SOUR::BERGEY | Double your IQ or no money back. | Wed Sep 27 1989 12:03 | 17 |
| >> Well, Rt. 122 out of Worcester, past the Worcester airport up into
>> Paxton is one heck of a climb. Granted I've never done it on a
>> bike...
After reading that, and remembering driving up that hill, I decided it
might be a good idea to give it a try before Saturday. So after work
last night I rode from Vernon Hill, out 122 past the airport and beyond
Paxton a bit. Tom's right, the hill keeps going on and on with a
couple of flat spots strategically placed to fool you into thinking
it's over. However, it's not that steep - I only had to use my lowest
gear for a small section. I rode up Mt. Wachusett a couple of weeks
ago and there is no comparison. The worst part of the 122 ride was
Chandler Street in Worcester - there's more broken glass on the side
of that road than I've ever seen before. Fortunately, it's pretty
much off to the side enough to get by safely.
-rsb
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1320.12 | count me in | BALMER::MUDGETT | did you say FREE food? | Wed Sep 27 1989 19:10 | 19 |
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I live in Maryland but this could be a chance to kill a few birds
with one throw...
1. I could have a real short visit with my family in Connecticut
("can't stay just came up for the ride." you know?)
2. My wife wants me to mow the lawn, by the time I got back someone
in the family would have done it.
3. I'd like to see what everyone else is talking about with a "moderate"
century.
4. I'd like to meet some of you people who I read about all the
time in this conference.
By the way whats Vernon Hill? Is that something I can ask directions
for?
I'll be the old overweight guy on a black TREK 1100.
Fred Mudgett
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1320.13 | Count is 10 so far | SOUR::BERGEY | Double your IQ or no money back. | Thu Sep 28 1989 00:48 | 12 |
| RE: .12: The first thing you need to do is get your system manager to set
up your mail object correctly - I get "network object is unknown at
remote node" when I try to send you mail.
In any case, I plan to post an update (as well as mail it to all
who have sent me mail) with a count of who's going and decent
directions to the start (Vernon Hill is the section of Worcester
where I live). There's plenty of street parking in my neighborhood
for those of you who plan to drive. Since I'm taking the day off
tomorrow, the update will be either late Thursday or Friday.
-steve
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1320.14 | WSTC start for me | ENGINE::PAULHUS | Chris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871 | Thu Sep 28 1989 11:01 | 6 |
| I was looking at the Worcester map last night - the Vernon part
of town appears to be south central Worcester. You go thru the middle
of town on the 122 route. About 3 miles out, after clearing downtown,
is Worcester State Teacher's College. I plan to start from there.
If you guys get a 8:00 start, I expect to see you come by at 8:15
or so. I'll be on a recumbent. - Chris (who dislikes urban areas)
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1320.15 | I can't believe I've agreed to 8:00 AM | WITNES::HANNULA | Is there Aerobics for Cats? | Thu Sep 28 1989 11:37 | 7 |
| Fred, are you really planning on this? Since I never made it to
BRAG, it'd be great to see you at this.
I'm planning on starting with Chris from Worcester State. We are
both just planning on riding a metric.
-Nancy (who'll be in pink)
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1320.16 | digital jersey's if you have them | STARCH::WHALEN | There are no words for these times | Thu Sep 28 1989 12:46 | 10 |
| I'll be starting from my house (which is about 4.75 miles from Worcester State),
and I hope to meet with the rest at the college. It seems like the college
will be the first (and probably only) checkpoint.
The weather reports that I'm hearing are favorable.
I'll be wearing my digital jersey (though it may be covered by a wind-breaker if
it is cool in the morning.
Rich
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1320.17 | count now stands at 11 | SOUR::BERGEY | Double your IQ or no money back. | Thu Sep 28 1989 21:34 | 20 |
| Okay, here's the update:
If you want to go, but haven't sent me mail, please do it now and say where
you plan to meet. I've made up directions, and will send you a copy. I've
already sent the directions to everyone who sent me mail, but some of
the nodes were unreachable, so I used nmail. It'll get there.
The weather report sounds good so far for Saturday, but you all know
how New England weather is - we won't know until we go.
A few (3) people have said they'd like to do a metric century, perhaps
out 122 to 202 and then back. Of course, this option is open to everyone,
decide when you get there.
We plan to leave at 8:00 from my house, and will meet up with those of
you starting from WSTC at 8:15.
Wear 'em if you got 'em! (Digital jerseys, that is)
-steve
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1320.18 | Post ride summary | SOUR::BERGEY | Double your IQ or no money back. | Sun Oct 01 1989 16:02 | 62 |
| Well, here it is, the results of the ride.
Over the course of the day, a total of 11 people participated,
representing three states (Mass, Connecticut, and Maryland).
The weather was perfect for biking, clear and cool, and eventually
warming up enough to make the tights and windbreakers unnecessary.
Indidentally, those Digital jersey's look just great tooling along in
the bright sun.
To say the course was hilly would probably be somewhat of an understatment,
but after the 50 mile point really flattened out (relatively speaking).
Some great views out there on the other side of the Quabbin.
We got off to a smooth but chilly start promptly at 8:00 from my
house and we met up with everyone else at 8:15 at Worcester State College
for introductions, map distribution, and a group picture.
The first, and last, true checkpoint was 2 hours later on the green in Barre.
By that time, we had experienced all the minor incidents we were to see for
the rest of the ride (one flat tire, a couple of chains off, and a spill in
the grass).
As planned, Chris and Nancy opted for the metric century and turned back
near the 202/122 intersection, but not before Norm experienced a close
encounter of the car kind (the only major mishap of the day). According
to eye witness reports at the scene, a motorist passed Rich and Norm (who
were going better than 30 MPH down a hill) and then stopped short halfway
into the berm. Norm was unable to stop gracefully in time, and dumped his
bike. He sufferred a few healable road rashes and his bike a broken chain
and derailler (sp?). His tire pump resembles a letter from a three dimensional
alphabet. Glenn and the rescue truck were summoned to take him home.
Incidentally, the motorist was quoted as saying something along the lines
of : "You're hurt? Good, I'm glad you're hurt. You bicyclists shouldn't
be on the roads." Obviously, a man of limited vision.
Brad (who was only along for a section of the ride), after carefully adjusting
his seat for the optimum fit, completed a 50 mile route up 122 and back.
Fred called to say that he had met his goals for the day, and was on his way
home.
Tom, Rob, Rich, Steve, and myself finished the course without incident at
varying times. I think Tom (as in "Rocket Tom") made it back in time to
do it again. For all I know, he may have done it. I finished the 102.5
mile ride in the middle of the remaining pack in 9:23, for an average speed
of a little better than 10 MPH. Hardly a record pace, but one that got me
home before dark.
Speaking of dark, Kevin, who later reports indicated showed up a bit late
(11:00 or so), also completed the course, but must have rode the last 3
hours or so in the dark as he didn't show up at the end until close to
10:00. I hope you were equipped for night riding!
All in all, a great ride (I would have rated it excellent if it wasn't
for Norm's spill). A number of participants celebrated their success
back at the start with beers of varying brands and barbequed chicken.
Hope to see you all (and others, too) next year for the second annual Mass
Central, Quabbin Reservoir, Ride For Your Own Life, Fall Foliage, Century.
-steve
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1320.19 | | BALMER::MUDGETT | did you say FREE food? | Sun Oct 01 1989 20:33 | 43 |
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Thanks for the ride Steve,
Now for my personal report, (like anyone cares)
I made it to the gas station at the 50 mile mark. Boy was I wiped
out! The previous 10 miles of hills just killed me. When I passed
Chris and Nancy before the split I was wondering if I should just
do the metric because I was feeling kind of out of sorts, then both
brain cells kicked in and I figured...
1. I've done tough hills before, heck I live in the mountians.
2. Someone in this note called those who were doing the metric were
hill-wimps, of course I could never be one of those.
3. The bad hills were all at the start of the ride, right and what
do Chris and Nancy know that I don't?
Well alot as it turned out. By the time I had dragged into the gas
station in Phelan (or whatever the town was) (you were right steve
its the only thing in the town) I was perfectly content to call
it a day. By the time my wife showed up I would have kissed anything
and often whatever was necessay to get a ride home. (I'm not proud)
The flaws in my thinking were, I've done tough hills but never with
50 more miles to go. I should have ignored the hill wimp business.
Besides all my other reasons I needed to visit my family in Conn.
We are going to have a baby (a boy if the sonagram opinions were
correct) and wanted to tell them in person.
I really enjoyed the ride and meeting all of you. We love the names
of the towns in Mass like "Ware are we?" and "Mom is it okay to belch in
Belchertown? Next year I'll know what I'm in for.
Oh Nancy you were probably wondering what my cyclemeter said when
I was done? 52.43 miles, 6:*&;%$ hours,mins,sec, 8.4 mph average
speed and max speed 34. For the rest of you who don't know Nancy
H. doesn't use a cyclemeter! I thought everyone had one, heck I've
used three of them this year!
Fred Mudgett
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1320.20 | only a Metric next year, too | SKETCH::PAULHUS | Chris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871 | Mon Oct 02 1989 10:34 | 22 |
| Well, as #1 hill wimp, I guess I should report. My mistakes
were two: thinking it was all downhill back to Worcester, and trying
to keep up with Rocket Tom (thanks for the jersey) leaving Barre.
I found the faint remains of the turn-around arrow from my '83 NEAR
ride and refused to go another foot up 122 (this at the north end
of the Quabbin). Nancy arrived a bit later (the group had paused
at the scene of the accident) and became the other non-macho rider.
(She said that she usually got dropped by Larry and his friends
- darn, they must be Fast, cuz she't Not slow!)(Welcome to the real
world of recreational riders, Nancy.) We said goodby to the rest
and started back, quickly meeting Fred. We couldn't convince him
the the worst was yet to come and bid him good riding. We then
started to fix flats (and do some riding): two for Nancy and one
for me. Coming down the airport hill into Worcester was a relief,
and a revelation: for the first time, I got passed on a downhill
by someone who was not: pedaling, or very heavy - Nancy gets into
a tuck that has to be seen to be belived, and she flat screams down
hills!
Sunday I did a hilly 40 miler with AMC from Concord. Boy, were
the roads filled with bicyclists yesterday - much more than I had
ever seen before.
A severely fried - Chris (the hill wimp)
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1320.21 | No wimps on that ride! | LEAF::GRACE | Wait, I'm LIVING in Grace-land! | Mon Oct 02 1989 12:28 | 16 |
| Good to hear all the reports about the century.
Chris, the reason (besides the incredible weather) that you might have
seen so many cyclists in the general area of Concord on Sunday is that
the CRW had a 25 and 44 mile ride that originated from Burlington. I
happened to be in that one. I opted for that one as I felt that I was
only ready for a relatively flat 40-50 miles. Previoisly, I had
considered the Worcester century or metric century with you folks, but
it wasn't in the legs this week. Next year I'll be ready.
My 2 year goal of doing a century is coming up somewhere at the end of
this month. So far, my max trip has been a 3 hour half-century as my top
time/distance. Wish me good luck with my century goal. Hopefully, I'll
get it in before the bad weather sets in.
Russ
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1320.22 | The other non-macho signing in | WITNES::HANNULA | What will the Neighbors Think? | Mon Oct 02 1989 12:29 | 13 |
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So, where do I get my copy of the group picture? I can't even remember
who had the camera.
Fred, just so you know my stats - I left my house around 7:15 AM,
got back home at 5:00 PM. It's about 80 miles round trip on the
car, plus the 62 for the metric on the bike. Meaning a total of
142 miles in 9:45, meaning an average pace of about 14.5 mph!
Well, I better start training now so that next year I can act like
the rest of you real men and do a real century.
-Nancy
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1320.23 | CONGRATULATIONS... | WMOIS::C_GIROUARD | | Mon Oct 02 1989 13:08 | 6 |
| Re; <22> I didn't participate, but I can tell you they are more
"real men" who can't do a century that can. Congratulations
to you, Nancy and the rest of you who participated. BTW,
148 is a lot tougher than 100. People need to know that :-).
Chip
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1320.24 | One Participant's Comment | MARLIN::DONOVAN | | Mon Oct 02 1989 15:06 | 8 |
|
Well, I did participate, and finished a few hours late and in the
dark. You picked a great route, Steve - the far side of the Quabbin
Reservoir was a bit hilly but a lot of fun.
Sign me up for the 2nd annual fall classic!
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1320.25 | Great time! | MCIS2::DELORIEA | Common sense isn't | Mon Oct 02 1989 15:27 | 11 |
| It was the perfect day for doing a Century ride. Sorry I wasn't more social. I
have to blame my speed, on the BASSO, after flatting a tubular on mile 20 and
having to ride the next 80 without another spare, I wanted to get home as fast
as I could ;^) Actually I did take my time and enjoy the sights. I even stopped
to say hi to an uncle of mine in Barre. I ended up going past Worcester State
at 3:55 and road to my father inlaws house in Shrewsbury for a grand total of
111 miles for the day. When I got there he asked me and my wife if we wanted to
go out for Italian food. A perfect end for a perfect day of cycling :-) Lets do
it again...
Tom
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1320.26 | I hope the lenscap wasn't on | EUCLID::GIBSON | | Mon Oct 02 1989 16:25 | 10 |
| Nancy (and others) - I'll send you a copy of the photo, assuming
it comes out. On a beautiful course like that, a camera probably
should have been required!
By the way, among the five who finished the whole course (during
daylight anyway; I can't speak for the Nightrider), I belive it
was the first century for three.
Great ride.
Rob
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1320.27 | | STARCH::WHALEN | There are no words for these times | Mon Oct 02 1989 22:16 | 7 |
| It was the first century that I have done.
I've got listed as one of my "rainy day" projects to drive the course with and
altimeter and record the differences in altitude at various points. That way
we can know home much we climbed.
Rich
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1320.28 | Maybe next year. | BANZAI::FISHER | Twice a BMB Finisher | Tue Oct 03 1989 11:14 | 4 |
| sounds like it was fun, sorry I missed it. I had reservations
elsewhere. Perhaps next year.
ed
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1320.29 | maybe next year | DIXIE1::PENN | | Thu Oct 05 1989 23:06 | 5 |
| This was a good idea I too wish I could have been there. Maybe next
year with a little notice I could drive up. Or even better maybe some
of us could meet some where in the middle of the east coast.
Hey,I know!! We can meet at MT. Mitchell.
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1320.30 | Funny, my lenscap has bicyclists on it! | ENGINE::GIBSON | | Fri Nov 03 1989 15:29 | 5 |
|
If anyone else wants a copy of the group picture, send me your
mailstop, and I'll order some more copies.
Rob
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1320.31 | How hilly it was.... | STARCH::WHALEN | There are no words for these times | Sun Nov 05 1989 10:13 | 29 |
| I drove the route yesterday with an altimeter to get an idea of how
much climbing we did. I set the altimeter to zero at Worcester State
College for my base elevation. In Paxton Center (5.5 miles) we've
climbed 500+ feet, we loose all of this by the time we get to the Barre
line, but then climb another 300 feet just before the center. This
rise continues another 100 feet, after which we descend 300 feet by the
time we enter Petersham. From there we climb another 300 feet by the
time we get to the five corners. From here, the altitude decreases by
500 feet (putting us 100 feet lower than we started) by the time we get
to the intersection of 122 and 202. From there there's a climb to 400
feet, a descent to 150, a climb to 350, a descent to just below 0 as we
enter Shutesbury before we climb to 500 for the overlook. There is a
benchmark on the stone wall there that says the elevation is 1144.660
MSL. From here to the intersection of Rt 202 and 9 it is a descent to
-200, with a little more downhill by the time we get to the entrances
to the Winsor Dam. There is a climb to 0, then we descend to -250
again in Ware center. From there we climb to 0 in Gilbertville center,
and 250 when we cross Rt 67. A little later we hit that high point of
500 again, then descend to 250 when we get back to Rt 122. One last
climb of 250 feet as we get into Paxton, then it's downhill from there.
Total climbing = 3600 feet.
Some of the people that I've been riding with lately have done the Mt
Greylock (3491 ft above MSL) century, in which all the climbing is on
two major hills. The steady climbs made me think that it wasn't for
me, but now I'm starting to consider trying it.
Rich
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1320.32 | I think the 9898 is more poetic than exact. | BANZAI::FISHER | Pat Pending | Mon Nov 06 1989 07:23 | 4 |
| RE: .-1: The Greylock Century has 4 climbs for a claimed total climb
of 9898 ft.
ed
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1320.33 | Just exactly what is the Mt. Greylock Century? | SOUR::BERGEY | Double your IQ or no money back. | Tue Dec 12 1989 15:13 | 7 |
|
Is there a standard route for the Greylock Century? By that I mean
is there some specific route that "everyone" rides when doing this
century?
-steve
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1320.34 | Yes, Mt Greylock is a 'real' century! | NAC::KLASMAN | | Wed Dec 13 1989 07:32 | 19 |
| <<< Note 1320.33 by SOUR::BERGEY "Double your IQ or no money back." >>>
-< Just exactly what is the Mt. Greylock Century? >-
> Is there a standard route for the Greylock Century? By that I mean
> is there some specific route that "everyone" rides when doing this
> century?
Yes, it is a real century, with a route sheet and a reasonable turnout (50+).
At least it was in 1988, the only time I rode it. I don't remember the route,
other than after climbing Mt Greylock (from the west... the long way up) and
the most white-knuckle descent I've ever done, the route goes up thru North
Adams and climbs UP the road that the famous "Hairpin Turn" restaurant is on.
This is one challenging C!
Will have to go back next year.
Kevin
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