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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

1135.0. "A question of frame alignment" by CURIE::HUPPERT () Wed Apr 26 1989 16:43

    I recently took delivery on a Marinoni, and have a question
    regarding frame alignment.
    
    Marinoni uses Campy dropouts with the adjustable screws.  If I set
    up the screws so they are equal on both sides, I find that the
    rear wheel is not centered relative to the brake bolt and
    chain stays.  Both the shop and I checked the rear wheel- its in
    perfect alignment and properly dished.  The shop said they checked
    the frame, and its properly aligned.  By changing the wheel position
    in the dropouts so the screw lengths are unequal by a small amount,
    I can center the wheel.  I am new to the world of high performance
    bikes- does it sound like all is normal, or do I still have a problem?
    
    BTW- so far I've found the Marinoni an absolute delight.  A very
    quick, responsive bike, but at the same time so smooth and comfortable.
    
    /Larry
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1135.1COUPLE OF HINTSAKOV11::FULLERWed Apr 26 1989 17:3623
    I would recheck the dishing before doing anything drastic.  Just
    a little bit out of dish will show up.  Try turning your wheel around,
    freewheel on the left side.  Does the wheel now pull to the opposite
    side from before?  If this is the case, you have a out of dish wheel,
    if the pull is to the same side, I question the frame alignment.
    
    Your problem in the chainstay may not be related to the brake bridge.
    If you readjust your dropout so the wheel is center in the chainstay
    what happens at the brake bridge?  I will probably be still out
    of alignment.  If you can center the wheel at the chainstay with
    little adjustment of the dropout, it probably means that one chainstay
    is longer than the other.  Although the frame is not "perfectly
     built" is no big deal, your frame can still be perfectly straight.
    
    You may wish to do a string test yourself.  Tie a long piece of
    string to one dropout, pull it around the headtube, then tie to
    the other dropout.  Measure the distance from the string to the
    seattube on each side.  They should be the same. This will tell
    you if your rear triangle is pushed to one side or the other.
    
    steve  
    
    
1135.2NO BIGGIE?!WMOIS::C_GIROUARDThu Apr 27 1989 07:594
    I agree with Steve. Don't get too excited. The screws/frame are
    not meant to be a highly calibrated measuring tool. They're there
    to help with alignment. If everything is fine and the room for
    safe/flexible adjustment degrees it's no biggie.
1135.3MEMORY::GOODWINin a spasm of lucidity...Thu Apr 27 1989 13:228
    re: .0
    
    My new Gitane frame w/ campy dropouts that was aligned just before
    I built it has the same symptom. if you look at the two dropouts
    I think the one on the derailer side has a longer slot then the
    one on the other. I wouldn't worry about it.
    
    Paul