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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

838.0. "In reply to Sierra Club policies..." by MIST::IVERSON (a Brubeck beat in a Sousa world) Fri Aug 26 1988 13:18

           In response to Sierra Club's new Off-Road vehicle 
           policy, banning bicycles from all public land, the 
           National Board of Directors of the Quiet Wheels 
           Mountain Biking Coalition proposes the adoption of an 
           On-Road Pedestrian Policy.
           
           This policy calls for all non-Wilderness bike paths, 
           public roads, road shoulders, and right-of-ways to be 
           closed to all pedestrians, including hikers, joggers, 
           and runners unless (1) determined to be appropriate 
           for their use through the completion of a costly and 
           time consuming analysis, review, and implementation 
           process, and (2) officially posted with costly signs 
           at every access point as being open.
           
           Penalties will be the equivalent of anti-bicycle 
           legislation. Currently this requires a zero tolerance 
           with no warnings, mandatory heavy fines, and immediate 
           confiscation of footwear.
           
           The QWMBC policy is at least partly a reaction to the 
           following: Bikeways made virtually unusable by glass 
           and litter left by non-bicyclists.(Using the precedent 
           set by Sierra Club we will not differentiate between 
           motorized and non-motorized non-bicycle users as the 
           major contributors to this problem.) Also, 
           inconsiderate pedestrians wearing headphones, making 
           hazardous erratic maneuvers, and being generally 
           oblivious to other land users. Pedestrians blocking 
           right-of-ways by walking/running side by side, and  
           pedestrians walking/running illegally.(e.g. 
           walking/running "with traffic", jaywalking, running 
           stop signs etc.). 
           
           If any fellow bicyclists would like to see a more 
           moderate stance on this; we don't want to hear about 
           it. 
           
           We have carefully modeled this policy after the Sierra 
           Club anti-bicycle policy and therefore assume we have 
           the Sierra Club, *funded* primarily by arm-chair 
           outdoors people that don't really know whats happening 
           to our "public" land anyway, fully supporting this 
           policy.
          
           Thom Iverson  :^)
           
           Quiet Wheels Mountain Bicycle Coalition
           
           (The above satire uses almost verbatim the same 
           wording and approach of the "ecology" oriented Sierra 
           Club's policies against the efficient and 
           non-polluting bicycle. How would *you* feel being 
           responsible for that policy? ) 
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838.1If only we couldHPSTEK::EKOKERNAKFri Aug 26 1988 13:239
    I'd support that policy!  How many times have we all been bothered
    by such bike trail and road shoulder abusers?  Why, on the Vineyard,
    they have a road, a bike path and a sidewalk.  Where do the mopeds
    drive?  Where do the pedestrians walk?
    
    Geesh.
    
    Elaine 
    :-)
838.2.1 Has a point.....SCOMAN::BOURGAULTI have a story to tell.....Mon Aug 29 1988 02:2216
    I visited West Germany back in 1973.... and remember seeing
    separate surfaces for cars, bikes, and pedestrians.  I have
    one picture (taken next to Deutsches Museum... Munich??)
    showing three traffic lights... the big one for cars, and
    two smaller ones, for bikes and pedestrians.  
    
    Each surface was on a separate level... Cars was the main level,
    up "half a curbing height" to the bike path, and up another
    half curbing to the "sidewalk".  I was impressed....
    
    I'm sorry.... we didn't stay long enough for me to carry
    my curiosity to asking things like "how is it enforced",
    but maybe I will write (U.S. Army brother is over there now)
    and find out....
    
                                  - Ed -
838.3Theirs' is seriousMIST::IVERSONa Brubeck beat in a Sousa worldMon Aug 29 1988 16:3373
            The following article was the prime source of
           inspiration for the On Road Pedestrian Policy.(BTW,
           the Sierra Club policy is serious, not satire.) 
           
           Sierra Club Board Votes To Close All Public Land
           to Mountain Bicycles.
           
           By Gibson Anderson, Executive Director IMBA
           
           Over the objections of bicyclists from within
           the Sierra Club, and despite arguments for a more
           moderate stance by the Bicycle Trails Council of
           Marin and IMBA, the National Board of directors
           of the Sierra Club unanimously adopted a new Off-Road
           vehicle policy on May 7, 1988.  This policy calls
           for all Non Wilderness public land to be closed
           to all vehicles including bicycles "unless (1)
           determined to be appropriate for their use through
           the completion of an analysis, review, and
           implementation process, and (2) officially posted
           with signs as being open."  In a concession to
           bicycles, the new Sierra Club policy differentiates
           between non motorized and motorized vehicles *but
           makes no distinction when calling for land closures.*
           The Sierra club is very influential nationwide
           in influencing land management policy.
           
           Bicyclists within the Sierra Club, including several
           IMBA members, are continuing to work for a more
           moderate policy.  However, the real problem is
           the conflict between different user groups over
           diminishing resources.  It is not all attributable
           to hiking and equestrian organizations attempts
           to lock out a competing user group.  The Sierra
           club's policy is at least partly a reaction to
           trail damage by mountain bicyclists who don't repair
           trails, inconsiderate bicyclists speeding past
           hikers and equestrians and cyclists riding illegally
           etc.
           
          ( The rest of the article is a plug for the IMBA.)
           (Incidentally, for those unaware; bicycles are already
           banned from *all* Wilderness areas, including
           clearcuts.)   
           
           For those interested:
           
           IMBA = International Mountain Bicycling Association
           
           membership office: Gibson Anderson, Executive Director
           P.O.Box 2007, Saratoga CA 95070 (408) 741-5254
           (Basic membership $12)
           Field office: Don Douglass, President and Research
           Director Route 2 Box 303, Bishop, CA 93514
           (619) 387-2412
           
           I can not vouche for the IMBA personally, but I
           am joining just because I get nervous about an
           organization that purports to represent all mountain
           bikers and is led by a person that has been known
           as a *hiking* outdoors activist. Can't hurt to
           keep an eye on him. :-)
           
           For you roadies that think you can escape all the
           anti-bicycle Forest Sales (errrr... I mean Service)
           action. The Forest Service is beginning to ban
           organized *paved road* rides on land in their domain
           and make riding in "groups" (i.e. paceline) illegal.
           
           Thom