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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

420.0. "Simple wheel questions" by BAEDEV::RECKARD (Jon Reckard 264-7710) Wed Aug 12 1987 09:00

    I've got my bike in a small repair shop to replace a spoke.  I couldn't
    do it myself cuz I don't have the freewheel removal tool(s?) I need.
    (The busted spoke is on the rear wheel and the spoke protector (the thing
    that keeps the chain from riding up on the spokes) prevented me from
    getting at the spoke hole in the hub.)
        1.  Do I need the spoke protector?  Should I have him keep it off?
        2.  The (steel) rim also had a small flat spot where the spoke was
            gone.  I've often thought of upgrading to alloy rims.  Can I
            put an alloy rim on the rear, keeping the front rim steel?
            The bike repair guy mentioned something about "balance" being
            affected and "I can do it if you want me to."
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420.1No problem41262::OSULLIVANPlunge - Pedal - PlodWed Aug 12 1987 09:1810
    No . You do not need the spoke protector. Just make sure that the
    set screws on the rear changer are set correctly. If you are unsure
    of this, the guy in the shop will do it in 15 sec. 
    
    I can't see why putting an alloy wheel on the back in combination
    with a steel on front is a big problem. ....unless you are riding
    Tour de France !!!
    
    John
    
420.2beware of better brakingSAGE::DERAMOWed Aug 12 1987 13:2111
    You should be aware that alloy rims offer better braking performance
    that steel rims, especially under wet conditions.  This could be
    a problem if the front wheel were alloy and the rear wheel steel,
    where if you appled an equal amount of squeeze to the front and
    rear brakes, the front wheel might lock up, and send you flying.
    But since the rear wheel will be the alloy one, I don't see any
    serious hazard, except for some possible rear wheel skidding until 
    you get used to the more positive braking of the alloy rim. 
    
    Joe
      
420.3TRACER::DUNNWed Aug 12 1987 14:3122
    The ring is on the rear wheel to protect the spokes in case the
    chain jumps the freewheel.  As long as your rear derailer is adjusted
    correctly, leave it off.  The consequences of not having it there
    is that the spokes will get damaged if the chain does jump.
    
    As for a rim change, just beware that all rims are not the same
    size and that you will most likely need new spokes also.  Chances
    are (since it was a steel rim) the spokes/hubs/tires on your current
    wheels are probably not really great and you'll pay a fair amount
    to have new rims and spokes put on, you may be better of buying
    a whole new set of wheels from a mail order outlet (all-ready built
    wheels that is).
    
    Balancing as your mechanic refered to it is usually called "truing"
    in the bike world.  After hitting a big pot hole or breaking a spoke
    you'll notice the wheel isn't perfectly round anymore.  Truing a
    wheel involves re-tensioning the spokes so that the wheel does spin
    correctly.  Both side to side and up and down wheel wobbles can
    be fixed this way.
     
    Paul Dunn
    
420.4Put alloy on the front!RDGENG::MACFADYENMon Aug 17 1987 13:359
    Re .2
    
    If I had one alloy and one steel rim on a bike, I'd want the alloy
    rim on the front, for the better braking that alloy offers. Since
    most braking force comes from the front wheel, that's where the
    better braking surface is most effective. And it's virtually impossible
    to lock a front wheel anyway.
    
    Rod