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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

399.0. "racing speeds?" by USMRM2::PJOHNSON () Thu Jul 23 1987 13:44

    I recently traded in my running shoes for cycling shoes.  I'd like
    to try a few races at the end of the summer, and I'm curious as
    to what is an average average-speed for a 20 mile road race and for
    a Century race.  Can anyone out there give me a guestimate?
                                                     
    Phil
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399.1Go as fast as you can!MOSAIC::WASSERJohn A. WasserThu Jul 23 1987 14:2011
> what is an average-speed for a 20 mile road race and for
> a Century race.

	My guess is that 24 MPH and higher is normal for a road
	race of under 30 miles. 

	Century (100 mile) rides are usualy not run as races... there 
	are seldom official starters and timers so you are on your own 
	if you want to race against the clock.  A respectable speed for 
	100 miles is 20 MPH (5 hours) but I would consider anything over 
	10 MPH to be a win.
399.2Your milage may vary...TALLIS::JBELLWot's..Uh the Deal?Thu Jul 23 1987 14:2512
For a 20 mile race, figure on about an hour.

Is the century a race or a ride?  For a ride I guess 8 to 12 hours depending
on how long you stop for ice cream and how well you slept the night before.

I (personally) have never considered doing a century as a race, but perhaps 7
or 8 hours, depending on whether you are in a pack.  (Any experts out there?)

The above is what I think I might be able to acheive.  There are those who are
much faster, and those who are slower.

-Jeff Bell
399.3My first Century, this fall...GRUNT::KLASMANThu Jul 23 1987 20:200
399.4My first Century, this fall...take 2GRUNT::KLASMANThu Jul 23 1987 20:3113
< Note 399.3 by GRUNT::KLASMAN >
                      -< My first Century, this fall... >-

Let's try this again...I too am planning my first Century this fall (I'm still 
running, tho!) and was wondering what pace I'll be able to maintain.  I now 
can manage about 20mph for 40 rolling to hilly miles (each person's definition 
of hilly is undoubtably different!) and I've got 8 weeks left until the C.  I 
hope I can do 20mph, time trial style, but at this point I'm not sure.  I 
certainly hope to do no slower than 19mph (5:15).  I don't plan on stopping at 
all!

Kevin

399.5You're gonna have to stop at least three times...KIRK::JOHNSONMatt JohnsonFri Jul 24 1987 10:243
    Typically, you have to sign in at each checkpoint.

    MATT
399.6They can Fly!MDVAX1::DIGNANWalk between the raindropsFri Jul 24 1987 19:5013
    The answers to your question will vary widely.  Examples:  My brother,
    who is a Cat.IV racer, rode a bona-fide century in 4:24.  He
    was in a 6-man paceline the whole way, which included a former national
    time-trial champion.  A 5 hour century under any circumstances is
    quite respectable, maybe comparable to, say, a sub-3 hr. marathon.
    
    Racing speeds depend on who is racing.  Novice or citizens 20 milers
    will average over 20 mph, sometimes in the mid-20s.  Cat.IV USCFers
    will go faster, mid to high 20s, and Cat.Is and IIs will surely
    be in the high 20s, unless of course the race gets very tactical,
    where nobody wants to pull, etc.
                               
    Have fun!
399.7byeeeeeeeeeee............SUSHI::KMACDONALDMacarooned on a Dessert IslandMon Jul 27 1987 16:385
The winning time in a 100 mile road race, as opposed to a Century ride,
would typically run between 4 and 4 1/2 hrs. depending on the calibre of
riders and the number of strong ones. A national event possibly faster.
I've never been able to stay with the pack in a 100 mile race farther than
about 30 miles, and if you're dropped, that's usually it.....
399.8FROM A RACERS EYESVCRUS::CRANETue Jul 28 1987 17:1521
    
    
    AS A CAT IV RACIER IT ALWAYS AMAZES ME THE SPEEDS MY RACES ACHIEVE
    THIS LATE IN THE SEASON THE CRITERIUMS AT NEWTON SPECIFICALLY THE
    LAST "B" RACE I ROAD THE AVERAGE SPEED WAS 26 MPH. IN AN EARLIER
    ROAD RACE UP IN VERMONT (STOWE ROAD RACE) THE SPEED COMING DOWN
    OFF OF HTE MOUNTAIN WAS A SUSTAINED 50 MPH AND THE RACE SPEED WAS
    BEYOIND MY CAPABILITYS AFTER I GOT DROPPED AT 20 MILES ON A BIG
    CLOMB BUT MY GUESS WOULD PUT IT AT 23 TO 24 AND THAT WAS A VERY
    HILLY RIDE. THE FITCHBURG CRITERIUM 15 MILES I THENK DID NOT GO
    BELOW 30 MPH AXCEPT AROUND THE HAIRPIN CORNER BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
    
    
    AND JUST FOR THE CURIOUS DREAMERS THE WHEAT THINS PRO CRITERIUMS
    ARE RUN BETWEEN 30 AND 35 MPH FOR 35 MILES!!!Q
                      WHEW, TIRED JUST WATCHING!!!!!!!
    
    
                                  FROM RIPLEYS BELIEVE IT OR TRY IT
                                                 JOHN
    
399.9but, without the packMEMORY::WORRELLLeave no stone un-climbedWed Jul 29 1987 10:207
    Race speeds are higher than an individual can acheive, because of
    riding with the pack. 
    
    In order for us solitary riders to compare honestly, how fast do racers
    go when training by themselves? 
    
    Glen
399.10The there's the ultramarathon crowdNOVA::FISHERP-B-P qualifiedThu Jul 30 1987 06:4719
    Just to get the entry in:  The last (July 24-26) John Marino Open
    -- which is run as a Time Trial -- was won with a time of a little
    over 32 hours for the 603 miles with 8 riders finishing within the
    requisite 15% to qualify for RAAM '88.  Two women also qualified
    with times of about 38 hours.  I believe the winner did 467 miles
    in the first 24 hours and 4:41 for the first C.  The first 15 riders
    completed a 100 miles in 4:47 or less.
    
    The weather was 90's, humid, one too brief thunderstorm.
    
    Jonathan Boyer said these guys are not athletes.
    
    There were 93 starters in this event, many of whom only had a
    goal of finishing.
    
    No, I did not do this, only did the 24 hr TT, in which I completed
    a much more modest 303 miles, got 2.5 hrs sleep during the race.
    
    ed