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Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

345.0. "Side-pull sticks?" by PABLO::FLEMING () Mon Jun 15 1987 12:44

	I didn't see any notes on this problem so here goes...
	I have a Raleigh (Reliant) with side-pull brakes.  When
	the brakes are applied they work fine but when released
	one side springs back and the other stays on the rim.
	My trusty bike maintenance book says this could be caused
	by a loose pivot bolt.  Tightening that doesn't help.
	To draw a mental picture,  the pivot bolt comes through
	the frame, through both calipers and then is attached
	by two nuts.  Inside nut is a regular one and outside is
	a cap nut.  I'm  guessing this is so you can keep the 
	whole assembly attached without crimping the calipers 
	together.
	Any ideas on how to fix?

	John...
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345.1CHOPIN::JBELLWot's..Uh the Deal?Mon Jun 15 1987 13:3022
First see if the brake really works right.
	Take the wheel off and sqeeze the lever a couple times.  If
	only one of the pads moves, then you should fiddle with the
	brake itself. (disassemble and clean)

If the brake seems OK then put the wheel back and work on getting the
	wheel and brake to line up.  On the shaft of the brake, there
	is a cylindrical piece that the spring goes through.  It's
	the orientation of the spring holder that determines where
	the pads are going to return.  Some models of brakes come
	with wrench flats so that you can rotate it to match the
	wheel, but it's usually impossible to get the wrench in there.

	Most of the time (for me) I resort to taking a hammer and
	drift to the thing for the fine adjustment.  I know that I
	lose style points for the hammer, but it works.

	It also helps if you oil the contact between the spring and
	the brake arm; the return action is sharper.

	-Jeff Bell
345.2SUSHI::KMACDONALDMacarooned on a Dessert IslandMon Jun 15 1987 15:2116
>	the pads are going to return.  Some models of brakes come
>	with wrench flats so that you can rotate it to match the
>	wheel, but it's usually impossible to get the wrench in there.

I got a little wrench made specifically for these flats. It's basically 
a little spanner. Works GRAND.

>	Most of the time (for me) I resort to taking a hammer and
>	drift to the thing for the fine adjustment.  I know that I
>	lose style points for the hammer, but it works.

My former method. Works grand too, but couldn't resist the (gadget) 
wrench! BTW, with this method, it seems much better to hit the SPRING 
with the drift (can use a screwdriver, too) than the brake ARMS. Light 
taps, usually don't need to be brutal....
                                                ken
345.3A clean brake is a happy brake?MOSAIC::WASSERJohn A. WasserMon Jun 15 1987 17:137
	My tendency would be toward taking the brake apart, cleaning
	all the parts and lubricating with a light grease any places
	where two pieces touch.

	A point that hasn't been mentioned to to check the cable 
	routing to make sure that there is no pull or push applied
	by the cable.
345.4yeah for the wrenchNOVA::FISHERP-B-P qualifiedTue Jun 16 1987 12:048
    The wrench is usually the easiest way to fix this problem.  5 seconds
    vs many minutes of messing around, sometimes over and over, especially
    when you also have to mess with (yuch) fenders.
    
    I worked on another person's bike and grabbed my Park Offset Brake
    Wrench and, lo, it didn't fit.  I had to use a 14 mm cone wrench.
    
    ed
345.5ThanksPABLO::FLEMINGWed Jun 17 1987 12:117
	Thanks for all the input.  Re-orienting the spring holder
	fixed the problem.  Was necessary to take it apart to do
	it but this revealed that the nylon washer separating the
	calipers had become squashed paper-thin in the middle.  I'm
	sure this wasn't helping, either.

345.6you sure it didn't start out that way?NOVA::FISHERP-B-P qualifiedThu Jun 18 1987 07:381
    some of those washers are paper thin to start with.