Conference noted::bicycle

    Take a look at note #45 for some other people's experiences with
    bringing their bikes indoors.
    
    I used to work in MR3 and just walked in with my bike every day
    like it was the most normal thing to do.  Nobody ever said a word,
    except the "safety manager" or somebody like that told me it was
    a fire hazard.  He didn't push it, and I kept bringing the bike
    in.
    
    If there's space in your office or in a hallway out of the way,
    give it a shot.  But don't ask for permission, whatever you do.
                                                                   
    Kathy

    	Ya'll get ready for a good one. I talked to the Facilities
    	person here. He said that it was against policy to allow
    	anyone to bring a bike into the building (LJO2 - Littleton,MA).
    
    	He said, "You give people a little room, and the next thing
    	you know they'll want to start bringing their motorcycles
    	in here." I swear to you, he was dead serious. After I
    	recovered from the shock of his statement, I pointed out
    	that it took quite an imagination to progress from maybe
    	2 or 3 people occasionally bringing bikes in to the
    	motorcycle riders demanding to do the same. I swear to
    	you in all honesty, this guy was dead serious.
    
    	My only concern was that when I start riding to work from
    	home, it will be a 52 mile commute round trip. And I
    	pointed out that I was only concerned about bringing it
    	in if (for some reason) I felt to tired to make the
    	26 miles home. Luckily, I have friends here with pickups
    	and homes close where I can leave the bike if I prefer.
    
    	But, it's some story, and worth the telling.
    	Scott

    As mentioned in note #45 somewhere.
    
    MATT

    
    	Well, there may be other solutions:-
    
    	a)	Try to use a bike rack that is under a building overhang.
    		If there isn't one, but the rack is near to one, you
    		*MAY* be able to get it shifted.
    
    	b)	Keep a rain cover at work, put it on the bike if the
    		weather looks cloudy, or intensly bright to keep the
    		sun off your tyres.
    
    	c)	Keep a *BIG* motorcycle lock on the rack at work.
    
	d)	On really nice days just don't make the final turn into
    		the dec facility.  Like, just keep riding.... tell the
    		boss you've been having "transportation problems" the
    		next day.

    
    	I used a) above at MR_01,  at LTN_1 I started using c) above
    'til one of the security folks *SUGGESTED* that I could bring it
    in and leave it under the back stairs.   Since moving to LTN_2 this
    week I havn't ridden in yet, but its the same set of guards as LTN_1
    and I'm on reasonably chatty terms with most of them.
    
	Reg
    
    (and keep your cat_eye solar under your desk lamp)
        

    	RE: Asking to see the policy
    
    	I read all the replys to 45. My question is, what do I do
    	after I find out if this policy is written up. If it is
    	written up, I assume (8-) I have no recourse. If it isn't
    	written up, what's the next step?
    
    	Scott

    
    	re .5	IF (policy <> written_up) then OK
    		else 
    		argue revision of their copy
    		.end else
    		.end if
    
    	When you demand to see the policy they (think) they're quoting
    from, you are doing a couple of things,  a) you're challenging the
    policy  b) you're challenging their ability/willingness to look it
    up and show it to you.  If they back down you've sort of won, but
    good luck if you *EVER* lose a property pass or have anything else
    to do with the security folks.  If they can produce it you'll need
    a lot of nerve to tell them their manual is out of date and that rule
    has been rescinded.  By the time you get into these challenges you've
    already lost the chance to get them to let you bend any rules that
    might exist anyway. 

    	So, re_read my .4 and see if a reasonableness approach can work
    first.
    
    	Reg
    

    just a comment on perceived safety of bikes on DEC property - I
    think, unless you're in the middle of a town like Maynard, your
    property is not much at risk. I stuck my bike in the rack at Hudson
    for two years and didn't bother with the lock 95% of the time and
    nobody messed with it. I'm not advocating that casual an attitude
    of course (it's a 12-year old Fuji, maybe subliminally I was looking
    for an excuse to buy a new machine), but I think with a good lock
    you'll be OK. Just don't leave it over weekends and such when there's
    nobody around - you love your bike too much to do that anyway, right?