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Conference noted::bicycle

Title: Bicycling
Notice:Bicycling for Fun
Moderator:JAMIN::WASSER
Created:Mon Apr 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3214
Total number of notes:31946

32.0. "Conversion to VaxNotes" by MENTOR::REG () Mon Mar 17 1986 13:15

	This is a formal request to the moderator to convert ASAP.  
Any and all opposing views are welcome.

	Reg

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32.1EUCLID::PAULHUSTue Mar 18 1986 09:553
	No opposition.  I know of people who can't access it in it's
   present form.  I just wish someone had clued me in on ADD ENTRY before
   I wasted a lot of time typing OPEN ...       Chris
32.2LSMVAX::MILLERTue Mar 18 1986 11:022
I agree we shud convert. Give a weeks notice  before doing, or is it 
painless?
32.3KATIE::CRABBWed Mar 19 1986 10:481
Another vote for convert.  
32.4JETSAM::HANAUERThu Mar 20 1986 12:088
Is there an administrator for this notes file?
If so, please identify yourself.

Suggest this person, after conversion, take on a purge procedure.
Maybe notes with no response for 90 days get deleted unless it's of 
general and lasting interest in your opinion.  Other thoughts on this?

	Mike
32.5JAWS::MHARRISThu Mar 20 1986 12:1711
Aye, convert, ye heathen!

I agree in general with Mike about purging old, unused notes.  However,
some of them may treat subjects of seasonal interest -- winter clothing,
for example -- that will crop up every year and shouldn't have to be
reinvented.

The moderator is generally the person who opens the notesfile, n'est-ce pas?
Who is BETTER::LC?

Mac
32.6MENTOR::REGWed Mar 26 1986 12:5712
	In defense of "the moderator", who I assume to be Kathy 
Norton, she is on maternity leave until ??-???-19??.

	With regard to purging old notes, I for one, am against it.
There are several notes files that I have come across a year or two
after they started which have topics that are still interesting to a
new reader.  Sometimes a reply to an otherwise "dead" note will
stimulate a discussion with the original contributors, who have since
learned a little more. 

	Reg

32.7DR::BLINNWed Mar 26 1986 13:2417
I agree with Reg, while there are files (CLASSIFIED_ADS, for example) 
where purging the old stuff makes sense, there are others where it 
doesn't.  Since VAX Notes will allow the original author (from the 
original node) or the moderator to delete old notes, MAIL to the author 
(assuming he or she is still at DEC) asking whether a clearly outmoded 
note is still relevant, and suggesting it be deleted (e.g., an "I've got 
a nice used bicycle for sale"), will often do the trick, if you really 
think it's a problem.

As for converting the file, I'm surprised it isn't in SYS$NOTES, but in 
any event, if someone wants to volunteer to host the file (to be a 
conference) and convert it, and no one complains, we COULD do it even 
without Kathy (although it would be a courtesy to her to contact her and 
get her opinion).  I'm sure some of the bicyclists here know her well 
enough to give her a call at home.

Tom
32.8EUCLID::PAULHUSThu Mar 27 1986 13:315
	As a friend of Kathy, and one of those who prodded her the most 
   to get this file going, I think it's safe to say that she would not
   be concerned with the details of how we do the bike notefile.  She's
   got other concerns now-a-days.  All we really need is a host/moderator.
    I nominate Reg. (I'm a contractor, so I really can't).  - Chris
32.9DR::BLINNFri Mar 28 1986 10:3110
Well, I'd volunteer, but I'm going to be moving from LSM over to the 
U.S. Area in MRO3 around the end of next month, and I'm not sure yet 
just what system I'll be on.

I'm not sure MENTOR is running VAX Notes server yet.  LSMVAX is, and
if Gary Miller wants to volunteer to host the conference, I'll show
him how.  We have the server running, and are using it for a number
of local as well as public conferences.

Tom
32.10NOVA::FISHERWed Apr 02 1986 07:365
Gee, there hasn't been a new vote for conversion for almost a week.

I'll add mine.

ed
32.11VIKING::WASSERMon Apr 07 1986 18:0012
	I would like to volunteer to host the VAXnotes version of
	this notes file.  I have experience converting notes files
	since I have been the host for Macintosh notes and am now
	the (self proclaimed) host of the VAXnotes version of the
	SCUBA notes file.  If the original host would like to
	do the conversion, have her contact me before Monday, April 14th.
	If noone objects I will do the conversion and make the
	appropriate announcements during the week of 4/14/86.

			-John A. Wasser


32.12DR::BLINNWed Apr 09 1986 09:505
Sounds like a super idea, John.  Your systems (VIKING, etc) seem to be 
pretty accessible, and I've not had problems accessing other conferences 
over there.

Tom
32.13EUCLID::PAULHUSThu Apr 10 1986 11:255
	Since the originator of this Notefile just gave birth to a daughter,
	and will not be participating in DEC Bicycling activity for a while,
	I'm sure she is not concerned with it's proposed format.  The comments
	of the readers and current contributors should be used to determine
	what to do.  I say DO IT, John.  And thanks. - Chris
32.14LSMVAX::MILLERThu Apr 10 1986 17:461
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32.15VIKING::WASSERThu Apr 10 1986 18:1317
	"So let it be written. So let it be done."
			-Yul Brenner as Pharoh of Egypt

	The conversion will be done on Monday, April 14th (barring
	unforseen circumstances) and I will post replies to this
	note and note 1 when the new file is available.  To prepare
	for that time, the file name will be:

		RAINBO::FLG:[WASSER]BICYCLE.NOTE

	(The names VIKING:: and MOSAIC:: will also work)

				-John A. Wasser

	P.S. I wish the weather would clear up so I can take my
	new CatEye Solar out for a test ride!

32.16Saved at last!NY1MM::CORENZWITTue Apr 15 1986 13:135
    Thank you, John Wasser.
    
    May the Solar gods of Cateye (and others) always smile on you.
    
    					Julie
32.17Yeah!BLUES::HARNOISKentTue Apr 15 1986 14:144
    Hear hear! Thank you.
    
    Kent
    
32.18Let's tell EVERYONE !MENTOR::REGWed Apr 16 1986 15:257
    
    	OK, I got into the new version but heard about it n'th hand.
     Can someone please send out a broadcaste to all the recipients
    of the dec bike club newsletter ?  (Colin ?)
    
    	Reg
    
32.19And added a 2nd ptr to the conversionBANZAI::FISHERThu Apr 17 1986 11:455
And, having added a note to the other file before finding out it was
converted, note #40 in the file now says "converted refer to 32.16 for
new location."

ed