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Interesting. I built almost the same set of wheels for a good friend
of mine with an older Super Course.
If you really want sealed hubs, the Suntour Superbe is the lightest
set available, lighter than Phil Wood. They also use "standard" spoke lengths,
which might be a plus if you need one in an emergency. Unfortunately, they're
more expensive than Campy.
The Mavic rims are the best, period. The G-40's are great rims, light,
hold the tire well, and are very, very strong. They are not tempered alloy,
though. Let me clear up a common misconception.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A HEAT TREATED RIM.
Heat treating, in the standard metallurgical sense, is not feasible
with manufacturing bicycle rims. The high heat needed to harden the metal
warps the rim at the seam and weakens it. What manufacturers do is anodize
the rim. There are two kinds of anodization, soft and hard. The cheaper rims
are soft anodized, mainly for appearance. Those brightly colored Super Champion
rims are soft anodized. The real competition rims are hard anodized, which
is sometimes called Sanfordizing. The process surface hardens the rim during
the anodization, giving it extra strength and rigidity.
The Mavic G-40's are hard anodized. I've built several sets for tour-
ists and they've held up very well. Not to say that they're a touring rim
like the Weinmann concave. The G-40's are a 13mm rim, very narrow, and are
almost 100 grams lighter than the Weinmann's. They will take up to a 28mm
tire (like a 1 1/8th inch) but not the standard 32mm that most tourists use.
This means a harsher but significantly faster ride.
If you want to save some money, forget the double butted spokes.
Use high quality (read DT) straight gauge spokes instead. 15G straights are
lighter than 14/15/14 DB spokes and are a little bit heavier than 15/16/15
which should only be used for racing anyway. You can save at least 10 cents
a spoke by using 15G straights. But, only use the best spokes.
Personally, I find tubulars a lot less hassle than clinchers, and
therefore use them exclusively. But that's just me.
Best of luck,
CdH
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| I too have an old Raleigh Super Course. It was the first bike that I ever
owned. Probably put about 15,000 miles on it and still enjoy it but only
use it for touring and bad weather.
You forgot to say exactly what you want to use the wheels for. Let's assume
that these are just fast training wheels that you may race with. The hubs
and the rims that you described are good quality and I'm sure that you'll
be happy with them. There are a couple of other things to consider. One
is how many spokes do you need. If you are a light rider (under 150) then
32 spokes are plenty. A heavier rider would want 36. Fewer spokes are better
for aerodynamics as spokes give a surprising amount of wind resisdence.
Another thing to consider is what tire you will use. I would highly recommend
the Specialized Turbo S or the Turbo R. These tires are probably the fastest
clincher tires however they do not work well with all rims. I am not sure
if the G40 is one that they will work well with. You can find out by checking
the paper that is included in the Turbo S or Turbo R box. It tells which
rims work well with those tires.
I do time trials and triathalons and have used wheels with Arraya 20-A rims
and Turbo S tires. I swear they work as well as my extra light Fiamme
Ergal rims with $40 Clement Criterium Seta sewup tires. The sewups do
accelerate better but that does not mean much in a time trial.
Hope this helps,
Keith
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The G-40's work great with the Turbo S tires, we've used them at
140 lbs. pressure with no problems. The G-40's are a hooked rim which hold
these narrow bead tires well.
The G-40's are very hard to get in 32 hole, but you can get them.
If you're that concerned with speed you should consider a lighter racing
bike and sewups. The 36 hole will be a lot stronger for everyday use. I use
36 hole Mavic GP4 tubular rims for training and various other Mavic 32 and
28 hole rims for racing.
The Araya's are nice, and light too, but are softer alloy than the
Mavic's and don't seem to hold up as well. Maybe you've had good luck with
them, I haven't.
CdH
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| I second what Chris said.
When you decide on what you want I'll save you ~ $40 if you want by
knitting them up for you, if you are fairly local
(Maynard/Marlborough). This may sound like a weird offer, but I
really do find it relaxing and a much nicer way to spend the evening
than watching the idiot box. Yep, free and worth every penny - I'll
even true 'em up again after you've ridden them a hundred or so miles.
Send me mail on MENTOR if you want me to do this.
Reg (Who's_other_hobbies_include_macrame)
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| If you were interested in tubulars I have a pair. They are built with
GL-330. They look just like the
GP-4 just that the GP-4 weigh 400grms and the GL-330 weigh 330grms hard
anodized, 36 hole, front wheel laced with 15g DT SS spokes, rear is laced
with 14g DT SS spokes on the Freewheel side of the hub and 15g DT SS spokes
on the other side of the Suntour Hubs.
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| Tim Brogden
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FOR SALE
One Bridgestone MB-1 frame set/w Unicrown fork, 1992 series.
Pearl Tusk color..(metalic white)
49cm measured center to top which equals 19 inches exactly.
Excellent condition, absolutely no rust, been very well cared for!!
Can be seen in West Boylston, Ma.
This frame, built up weighs 24.7 pounds with the unicrown fork.
Tube set is Ritchey Prestige Logic tubes through out and it is a lugged frame.
The frame set will also come with the headset(bearings and cups/caps) and
more then likely the bottom bracket(bearings and cups/caps) and a Ritchey
seat post as well as an Avocet sadle as well.
The reason for selling....I rode a FAT and that is all there is too it!!
Price: $450.00 or best offer and I'm getting rid of this no later then the
second week in September! Also no tire kickers please. If you aren't really
knowledgable about mountain bikes that is fine, I'll answer any questions but
would like to keep from wasting my time as well!
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