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Title:atm
Moderator:NPSS::WATERS
Created:Mon Oct 05 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:970
Total number of notes:3630

945.0. "PVC / CBR and LANE/SVC" by NNTPD::"[email protected]" (Youda Kopel) Mon May 19 1997 02:21

Hi There ,

I wonder if someone can help me on this URGENTLY :

I have got a question that was put to me by our customer. We have a number 
of PVC configured at the moment on the new DAGGL-BA ( QLC2s ) with CBR at 
30 Mbps and s/w ver 2.1.1 at the moment ( CLIP ). The GS/ATM is between number
of Cisco routers 7010( OC3s ). Our customer wants to implement LANE / SVCs
next
week. If they SHUT DOWN the PVCs on the Cisco router can the 30Mbps CBR 
bandwidth be used for the new SVC on the same link ????? Or do we need to 
remove that configured PVC on our GS/ATM to be able to use the full bandwidth
on this link ????

My understanding that this was OK with the old DAGGL-AAs ( You did not need to
remove the PVC. SVC could used the whole bandwidth on that link..... ).


Many Thank in Advance .

Youda Kopel ,
NPB Melb/Aust.


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945.1Re .0 CBR PVCsKAMPUS::BRANDNERThat's noot eentiiirly aaacuuraate ...Tue May 20 1997 05:3330
>week. If they SHUT DOWN the PVCs on the Cisco router can the 30Mbps CBR
>bandwidth be used for the new SVC on the same link ????? Or do we need to

Yes.

>                                                         Or do we need to
>remove that configured PVC on our GS/ATM to be able to use the full bandwidth
>on this link ????

No.

If you configure CBR PVCs (i.e. 30 Mbps) it does *not* mean that those 30 Mbps
are reserved and lost for other traffic. It does mean that the switch keeps
resources reserved to do the *guaranteed* forwarding for the specified
bandwidth. If the Ciscos don't send any cells for this CBR PVC this bandwidth is
available for other connections (i.e. UBR SVCs). That's one of the main benefits
of ATM over TDM (i.e. ISDN).

Configuring CBR PVCs means to the switch:
	- if cells arrive on this PVC, *guarantee* forwarding for as much
		bandwidth as the PVC is configured for (i.e.30 Mbps).
	- if no cells arrive on this PVC (i.e. the PVC is shut down at the
		Cisco routers on both ends) use the bandwidth for other traffic.

BTW: this also applies to CBR SVCs.

Hope this helps.

Rudi
945.2Need to confirmNNTPD::"[email protected]"Youda KopelWed May 21 1997 01:3820
Dear Rudi ,

Thank you for the reply. I just need to confirm this one before I pass it on
to
our customer ( VRN you may have heard ).
Are you saying that I don't need to remove the configured PVCs on the 
GIGAswitch/ATM ??????

My customer is in the process of testing LANE / SVCs with GS/ATM and two Cisco
7000 routers. He want to ensure that if the LANE/SVCs don't work, he can fall
back to the PVC configurations without " TOUCHING " the GS/ATM ...

Please confirm this.....

Many Thanks ,

Youda Kopel ,
NPB Aust.

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945.3Re .-1: confirmedKAMPUS::BRANDNERThat's noot eentiiirly aaacuuraate ...Wed May 21 1997 05:0639
	Youda,

>Are you saying that I don't need to remove the configured PVCs on the 
>GIGAswitch/ATM ??????

Yep. That's what I say. There's still something to take care of. Be sure, that
the PVC's VCI you're using are above 64 (Signaling uses 5 and 16). VCIs in the
range of [0,63] are well known VCIs and therefore they shouldn't be used.

If your PVC's VCI range starts at, let's say 100 and is growing up, then there's
no problem at all.

Setting up SVCs the switch recognizes the configured PVCs and doesn't use the
PVC's VCIs.

>My customer is in the process of testing LANE / SVCs with GS/ATM and two Cisco
>7000 routers. He want to ensure that if the LANE/SVCs don't work, he can fall
>back to the PVC configurations without " TOUCHING " the GS/ATM ...

That's ok. But be sure that the Ciscos have the PVCs *disabled/removed* so they
don't send cells using the PVC's VCIs (which in turn means that the switch won't
receive cells on the PVCs).

You can check this by using the obm (2 -> 1 -> 8), i.e.:

        InVCI: Type: Allocation:        OutCard:Port:VCI: Xmit Cells: FLOWmaster
          68   SVC   ABR P-P  (  0 Mbps)    11:  2:   64     13662       On 
          72   SVC   ABR P-P  (  0 Mbps)    11:  3:   64     15960       On 
          73   SVC   ABR P-P  (  0 Mbps)    13:  4:   64     17338       On 
          74   SVC   ABR P-P  (  0 Mbps)    11:  4:   64     12913       On 
							   ^^^^^^^^^^

If your customer is running LANE/SVC, the "Xmit Cells:" for the PVCs may NOT
increase.

Hope this helps.

Rudi