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Title:atm
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Created:Mon Oct 05 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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831.0. "GIGASWITCH/ATM and SUN machine and LANE PROBLEM?" by SOS6::HOFFMANN (HOFFMANN Lionel/loc=evt/DTN number=858 5647) Tue Feb 18 1997 09:58

    Hello,
    
    I have installed a GIGASWITCH/ATM version 2.0 (revision code 300)
    with a new line card (a modular one)using one optical PMD and two UTP
    pmd's.
    ON these ports ,I have connected three systems :
    	_One VNSWITCH EA
    	_One Sun machine with a Fore ATM module
    	_One Sun machine with A Sun ATM module
    
    The goal of the play is LANE EMULATION
    
    I have created one Emulated LAN VLAN1 and all the three systems must be
    LEC for the gigaswitch where the BUS,LECS and LES are based......
    Issuing the commands like: uni -status, lecs -sc, les _sc ,bus -sc
    I could check that all lec have joined the VLAN.
    But I have two strange points or problems to fight with:
    
    1)I can see all three LEC that have joined the emulated LAN
    BUt when I look at the LECS : lecs -sc I just see one CONNECTED client
    (One SUn machine with the fore module) but nothing about the other sun
    machine and the vnswitch....is it normal? why this behaviour?
    
    
    2) Sometimes ,the sun machine with the sun module (only this one)
    after bootink works ok a certain time then drops suddenly.It is
    impossible to get it up back.It goes up and down continuouly.The only
    way to stop it is to reboot the machine.
    In that case,the uni -status command on the gigaswitch shows that the 
    port is in the down state .No uni is current.It seems it is the same
    with the version 3.0 or 3.1 of uni.........
    Any ideas?has somebody at the Engineering side experience of SUNATM
    modules? what about interoperability?
    How can I troubleshoot easily this problem without ATM analyzer?
    
    3)Another point:
    CAn I create different VLANs for each machine?
    CAn I use only the same lecs,les or bus ? normally yes... 
    How the link betwwen Emulated lan and corresponding bus and les is made
    on the gigaswitch?
    
    4)Is there a specific order to create and enable the elan,les or bus
    because I could use the Elanall command once and after it was
    impossible.
    I had to create The elan,les and bus separetely and precise the
    Addresses of each otherwise it was impossible to enable the les.
    netherveless,I was sure to make it before but I could'nt anymore.....
    Is it a problem of version?
    
    Any help or ideas appreciated??
    
    	Lionel
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831.1Partial answersAUBER::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceTue Feb 18 1997 11:3336

 Bonjour Lionel

  
  >>  4)Is there a specific order to create and enable the elan,les or bus
  >>  because I could use the Elanall command once and after it was
  >>  impossible.
  >>  I had to create The elan,les and bus separetely and precise the
  >>  Addresses of each otherwise it was impossible to enable the les.
  >>  netherveless,I was sure to make it before but I could'nt anymore.....
  >>  Is it a problem of version?

  it should be a version problem, i tested in V2.1.1 CMM 1.82 elanall X
  worked great, from 2.1.1 release notes this command start to be supported
  in V2.1.1 may be present in v2.0 code but really supported in V2.1.1


3)Another point:
 >>   CAn I create different VLANs for each machine?
 >>   CAn I use only the same lecs,les or bus ? normally yes... 
 >>  How the link betwwen Emulated lan and corresponding bus and les is made
 >>   on the gigaswitch?


  
  from understanding, you can create Vlans on ethernet side of VnswitchEA
  and "map them" to ELan on ATM side, i tested with VnswitchEA creating
  VLANS and mapping them to Elan , you can just create a Elan and  bus and
  les with the same name and give this name to the LEC that it want to join them
  i tested with VnswitchEA and worked as well.

 hopes that help you


  JYP
831.2c'est goodSOS6::HOFFMANNHOFFMANN Lionel/loc=evt/DTN number=858 5647Tue Feb 18 1997 12:0414
    Thank you Jean yves
    
    Ok for the version.I should upgrade but I can't on the customer site
    right now.I will do it later when the situation will be quieter...
    
    Ok for the VLAN's mapped to ELAN but my question was about different
    ELAN's on the GIGASWITCH associated with different LES and BUS ...
    
    But I will be able to test many points very soon on Anthony site ...
    See you may be tomorrow there....
    
    Regards
    
    Lionel 
831.3NPSS::NEWTONThomas NewtonTue Feb 18 1997 18:2828
>>  1)I can see all three LEC that have joined the emulated LAN
>>  BUt when I look at the LECS : lecs -sc I just see one CONNECTED client
>>  (One SUn machine with the fore module) but nothing about the other sun
>>  machine and the vnswitch....is it normal? why this behaviour?

    The LANE specification allows clients to keep the Configuration Direct
    VCC open for as long as they choose.  Fore probably just chose to have
    their LEC work differently than the ones from the other vendors.


>>  3)Another point:
>>  CAn I create different VLANs for each machine?
>>  CAn I use only the same lecs,les or bus ? normally yes... 
>>  How the link betwwen Emulated lan and corresponding bus and les is made
>>  on the gigaswitch?

    If you are talking about multiple emulated LANs ("ELANs", not "VLANs"),
    you can set up several LES/BUS pairs on the GS/ATM.

    You can then use the built-in LECS to direct clients to ELANs by either
    ELAN name or default ELAN.  If your clients don't allow you to enter an
    ELAN name, you may need a full-featured external LECS that can assign a
    client to an ELAN on the basis of ATM address or MAC address.

    The way the GS/ATM associates ELANs, LESes, and BUSes is by ATM address.
    The ELAN must have the correct ATM address of the LES, and the LES must
    have the ATM address of the BUS.
831.4thanksSOS6::HOFFMANNHOFFMANN Lionel/loc=evt/DTN number=858 5647Thu Feb 20 1997 03:583
    Thank you Thomas.It is clear and interesting to know
    regards
    Lionel