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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:	Cars in the UK
Notice:	Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:	COMICS::SHELLEYELD

Created:	Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2584
Total number of notes:	63384

2547.0. "Citreon AX oil/engine problem" by ULYSSE::GALLACHER () Mon Sep 09 1996 11:12

I think I've got a serious problem with my poor Citreon AX. It's in the garage,
but can anyone give me some advice as to what it might be and how serious?  

I'd been driving about 20 minutes and the oil light starting flashing on when 
I changed gear. The engine got *really* hot - smoke etc, but the oil level was 
normal. I had to get the car back home, and the same thing happened again, 
although once the engine cooled it started no problem. Could it something as 
simple as a blockage somewhere?

It's a G reg, by the way with quite high mileage. I only bought it recently and
had an AA report done it which said it was fine. Is there any comeback?

thanks for any help,
Linda

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2547.1		FORTY2::PALKA		`Mon Sep 09 1996 12:00`	15
	Could be a blocked (or incorrectly fitted) oil filter. Could be a defective oil pump. Could be a cooling system problem (If the engine gets too hot then the oil will get very thin, and oil pressure will fall off when the engine speed is low). It will almost certainly need new oil, and might as well have a new filter. Check that the cooling system is working, maybe flush the cooling system. Then see if it happens again - allow it to warm up while stationary, check that the radiator is getting warm, see that the cooling fan starts and stops etc. Andrew
2547.2		WOTVAX::STONEG	Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....	`Mon Sep 09 1996 13:30`	5
	Also, are you sure the oil level was normal ? it takes quite while after stopping the engine for the dipstick to show the correct level. Graham
2547.3	thanks...	ULYSSE::GALLACHER		`Mon Sep 09 1996 14:34`	17
	Hello, thanks for the quick replies - hmmm, I think the cooling system could be the problem! Now I think about it, the fan was coming on after very short journeys. The oil light flashed on and off when I changed gear down in traffic and after about twenty minutes when the engine had had time to warm up. Is it significant that it should flash when I changed gear, d'you think? The oil light didn't stay on. Well, I did check the oil about 15 minutes after I stopped the car, so the level may not have been correct, but I checked it about a week before and it was on the high side of the range. Thanks again for your help! Linda
2547.4		FORTY2::PALKA		`Mon Sep 09 1996 15:26`	11
	re .3 I would expect it to flash when you changed gear. That is when the engine speed drops to idle speed, so the oil pump is pumping less oil. The engine is also still hot, once it cools down the oil thickens sufficiently to keep the pressure up at idle speed. It could also be a head gasket, leaking into the cooling system. It should be fairly easy to find the problem. Andrew
2547.5		WOTVAX::STONEG	Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....	`Mon Sep 09 1996 16:53`	6
	Now you mentioned the cooling problem, are you sure it was smoke ? If you're low on coolant it could be a head gasket problem, with the Oil pressure drop just being caused by increased temperature. Graham
2547.6		TERRI::SIMON	Semper in Excernere	`Mon Sep 09 1996 17:24`	5
	Blown a piston ring ??? I know I did. Simon
2547.7	Thermostat	PGREEN::ROWEM	Frank Gamballi's Trousers	`Tue Sep 10 1996 13:29`	5
	My wife had cooling probs with her AX, and it turned out to be a stuck thermostat. may be a good idea to get it changed, they're only a few quid. Matt
2547.8	thanks...	ULYSSE::GALLACHER		`Tue Sep 10 1996 15:51`	8
	hello all, thanks for your suggestions - I've put the car in a garage and should be finding out what the problem is this afternoon (I hope!) Linda
2547.9	problem?	CHEFS::GERRYT		`Mon Sep 16 1996 14:09`	5
2547.10	Oil + Brake = ?	WOTVAX::CARTER_A	I've seen the Teapot	`Mon Sep 23 1996 13:00`	15
2547.11		WOTVAX::STONEG	Temperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....	`Mon Sep 23 1996 14:11`	7
2547.12		WOTVAX::CARTER_A	I've seen the Teapot	`Mon Sep 23 1996 14:37`	4
2547.13		COMICS::CORNEJ	What's an Architect?	`Mon Sep 23 1996 15:18`	8
2547.14		42333::LESLIE	Andy Leslie, sage sayings 2p a bag	`Mon Sep 23 1996 15:45`	2
2547.15	up the life insurance on your wife !!!	WOTVAX::HATTONM	Waiting for JS to offer me a drive...	`Mon Sep 23 1996 17:20`	1
2547.16	Now there's a thought!	WOTVAX::CARTER_A	I've seen the Teapot	`Tue Sep 24 1996 12:36`	1