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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2508.0. "JD Power and TopGear" by CHEFS::slagra.reo.dec.com::Slade_G () Fri Apr 12 1996 12:24

	Did anyone watch TopGear last night? (11/4/96)
	If so, does anyone have any comments regarding
	the JD Power survey, especially the fact that 
	Nearly all from the Vauxhall range were in the
	bottom 10 of the survey. Do you think it was 
	a fair report?
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2508.1See 525.340 + repliesCOMICS::SHELLEYDon't get mad, get even.Fri Apr 12 1996 12:311
    
2508.2KERNEL::IMBIERSKITGood frames, Bad frames...Fri Apr 12 1996 13:3715
    I noticed that the cars in the bottom 10 included most of the top
    selling models, while the top 10 were slightly more obscure. I would
    hazard a guess that the cars in the top 10 were bought by people who
    had thought more carefully about their purchase and chosen that
    car because it fitted their needs. Thus they give it good marks in the
    survey. 
    
    The cars in the bottom 10 would have included many drivers who had
    either not thought so carefully about why they were buying that car, or
    fleet drivers who are not driving a car they would choose to buy
    themselves. Therefore they are less likely to be satisfied with it.
    
    just a thought, 
    
    Tony I                                                    
2508.3CBHVAX::CBHMr. CreosoteFri Apr 12 1996 19:4312
Sort of cross referencing my other note, I expect that the cars in the top 10 
do a far lower mileage than those in the bottom 10.  Just to reiterate, I'd 
like to see some facts'n'figures about the sort of people who tend to buy the 
cars in question (ie Vauxhalls are more common fleet vehicles and do loads of 
miles, Toyotas are often bought by older people who may not have any business 
mileage - these are my assumptions, but don't bite my head off!)

Personally, I'm quite happy with my Calibra, no complaints so far; but, then, 
I've only done 9,000 miles in the last year (nearly all business, before 
anyone asks)

Chris.
2508.4Market Forces and all thatMUGGER::WILLIAMSHHuw Williams Digital WarringtonMon Apr 15 1996 14:549
Here, hang on a minute,

Its not for us, the consumer, to get defensive about the results,
and suggest reasons why Vauxhall and Ford didnt fare well.

We should be asking the car manufacturers what are THEY going
to do about their poor ratings?

Huw.
2508.5Dealers?CHEFS::JACKSON_GMon Apr 15 1996 17:025
    Seems to me that Vauxhall cars are OK but the dealers let them down
    badly!
    
    
    Gary..paying the extra and defected to Mercedes
2508.6Dealers - maybe not !!WOTVAX::BARRETTRMon Apr 15 1996 18:3012
    > Seems to me that Vauxhall cars are OK but the dealers let them down
    badly!
    
    Don't know about that - if you read the notes files in here regarding
    Vauxhalls you get the same impression - when I became eligible for the
    car scheme it was the writings in here that persuaded me to buy my own
    car and stay away from the scheme.
    
    Still could be worse - the scheme could give you Fiats instead.
    
    Rick
    
2508.7VANGA::KERRELLsalva res estTue Apr 16 1996 09:068
re.6:

This could have been a mistake...I am a critic of Vauxhall in here and I'm on my
fifth in a row. My wife also has a Vauxhall. On the whole they are reasonably
priced, cheap to run, reliable, and do the biz. As for dealers, I stick to the
smaller companies - you get personal service.

Dave.
2508.8KERNEL::IMBIERSKITGood frames, Bad frames...Wed Apr 17 1996 10:2611
    re. .4
    
    ... but since Ford and Vauxhall don't participate in this conference it
    wouldn't make much of a topic.
    
    People *do* get defensive about their choice of car. People also love
    telling other people why they've bought the wrong car. 
    
    cheers, 
    
    Tony I