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Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2463.0. "Stolen Roadwheels" by CHEFS::SMITH_T () Wed Oct 18 1995 14:48

    I've checked the obvious search strings and found nothing that relates
    directly to this title so here goes:
    
    I recently awoke to find the company car standing on two stones from my
    rockery and two car jacks minus its 4 road wheels. Mine appeared to be
    the last of three that were done one early monday morning and the jacks
    were stolen from the other two vehicles.
    
    All vehicles were Vauxhalls with Alloy Wheels and were probably stolen
    to order.
    
    Mine have been replaced at a cost of over 1 thousand pounds to Digital
    and have now been fitted with a set of 26 pound Vauxhall anti-theft
    wheel nuts.
    
    Questions:-
    
    Are these locking wheel nut sets any good or are there instances where
    second visits have been made either succesfully or not?
    
    As an engineer I'm now thinking of wiring in some mercury switches that
    will react if the car is tilted in either direction. Any Comments?
    
    Regards
    
    Tim S
    
    
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2463.1BANG BANG ????BRUMMY::HATTONMI could fit in an unmod'ed Mclaren, at half the priceWed Oct 18 1995 16:134
    
    put some explosives with the merc switches !!!! %*))
    
    - MARK -
2463.2BAHTAT::HILTONhttp://blyth.lzo.dec.comWed Oct 18 1995 18:403
    Snap, all 4 of mine got nicked.
    
    Don't suppose you've got a Calibra do you?
2463.3Such is life !!!!WOTVAX::buzyal.wlo.dec.com::sharkeyaJames Bond uses LoginnWed Oct 18 1995 22:065
Well, I'll stickk to my low model Citroen diesel estate. At least I 
can drive it away in the morning !!!!

Alan

2463.4Never heard of a case42054::JASPERStuck on the Flypaper of LifeThu Oct 19 1995 15:597
    I've always fitted wheel locks & never had any wheels stolen .
    
    Has anyone ever had locks defeated ? 
    I've heard many stories about stolen wheels, but never when fitted with
    locks.
    
    Tony.
2463.5RIOT01::KINGMad mushroomsThu Oct 19 1995 16:3310
    
    The locks that are a bit dodgy are the ones fitted to the central disk
    cover of some manufacturers alloys.  All someone has to do is drill out
    the lock then they have total access to the four/five wheel nuts
    underneath.  A mate of mine had this done when he bought a 535 with
    shagged metric tyres, didn't have the key for the wheel covers and
    eventually decided that it was going to be cheaper to buy some imperial
    wheels and tyres than buy a set of metric tyres.
    
    Chris.
2463.6Wheel locks look OK thenCHEFS::SMITH_TThu Oct 19 1995 18:1317
    noter .2 
    
    Yep they were on a Calibra, infact an SE4. Because the car itself was
    not a standard Calibra and would have been spotted far easier, The Cops
    reckon this saved me from having the car nicked.
    
    The gloved mucky prints over the door handles and windows suggests that
    they had a good try though.
    
    I actually found out last night that one of the other 3 was a complete
    stolen ALARMED vehicle and it had been recoved albeit slightly damaged.
    
    My mate said "I'd cut off their hands just like the arabs do, they'd have a
    job nicking anything then"
    
    Me "I'd Shoot em" 
    
2463.7Locking wheelbolt question42054::JASPERStuck on the Flypaper of LifeThu Oct 26 1995 14:0411
    
    .5, I was referring to locking replacement wheelnuts/bolts. I didnt
    consider a locking hubcap as a deterrent :-)
    
    The previous owner of my Carlton had in fact lost the key to the
    locking wheelbolt & the car had to be driven to a garage where the
    hardened wheelbolt had to be drilled out to remove it. Hence my
    now-modified question, has anyone had wheels protected by a locking 
    wheelbolt stolen ?
                     
    Tony
2463.8KERNEL::PARRYTrevor ParryThu Oct 26 1995 15:5610
    I've got a Carlton with locking nuts on the hubcap.  I don't have the
    key and keep a set of pin-nose pliers and an allen-key in the boot
    should I need to remove them.  (only 1 has the allen-key hole!)
    
    I've tried unsuccesfully to buy some locking wheel nuts to fit, but all
    the ones I've tried don't fit (Les Smith, Halfords...and J Davy said
    they don't exist).  So if anyone can tell me where I can buy locking
    wheel nuts for a 1990 Carlton CDX 3.0i Estate I'd be very grateful.
    
    worried of Basingstoke
2463.9WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Thu Oct 26 1995 17:067
    
    I bought a set for the Frontera when I first got it. From what I
    can remember from the packaging they also fit Carltons. I'll try and
    remember to look for the packet tonight - it still has the old wheel
    nuts in it.
    
    Graham
2463.10CHEFS::SMITH_TFri Oct 27 1995 13:2820
    Chaps
    
    The one's fitted on the calibra were genuine vauxhall at a cost to dec
    of a mere 26 quid. I can only assume that even if they dont fit a
    Carlton they would make some that do.
    
    The philosophy is the nut is modified so as to need a three pronged
    adapter with 1000's of different configurations. You then keep the
    adapter and its cover removal kit hidden somewhre handy. Apparantly the
    theives usually look for it in the boot where the first aid box is
    stored so dont put it there. Other suggestions were drill a tiny hole
    in it and add it to your keyring (it not too big really) or hang it by
    a bit of wire under the bonnet in a well hidden spot.
    
    Two sets I am told relly make the difference as even if Mr thief gets
    lucky with one set he can't be bothered taking the risk with two.
    
    Cheers
    
    Tim S
2463.11Locking wheel nuts can be a problem...44120::STEVIEWed Nov 01 1995 13:296
    The problem with locking wheel nuts, certainly on the Calibra, is that
    if you get a puncture, they are very difficult to remove with the
    standard wheel brace that's shipped with the car, I found this out to
    my cost just recently.
    
    Stevie
2463.12WOTVAX::STONEGTemperature Drop in Downtime Winterland....Wed Nov 01 1995 14:058
    
    I haven't found the packet my wheel nuts came in yet, I'll have
    another look this evening. My earlier reply is mis-leading though,
    these aren't locking wheel nuts, rather they're the ones that come with a
    special socket which only fits those nuts and of course the standard
    wheel brace doesn't fit them so I have to carry a spider as well.
                            
    Graham
2463.13all bits go in time!!!SEDSWS::OCONNELLPETER PERFECTWed Jan 03 1996 11:2724
    
    It isnt just road wheels, my wife parks her cavalier in a station road,
    over a period of 2 years she has had the wiper blades/arms pinched
    Twice!, one wheel trim pinched yesterday (2-jan-96) and an attempt
    on the door a few weeks ago.
    
    So far wipers and trim about cost 40.00 pounds, the door lock is still
    serviceable... just.... The wheel trims I had cable tied on so it did
    not come off in transit.
    
    I have decided to paint either our surname or registration on each
    wheel trim in Enamel to put the bloody thieves off, I have also put a
    screw and captive plate on each of the wiper blades so at least they
    will have to use a screwdirver to get em orf!!.
    
    The other choice is to pay 4.00 pounds per week in a station car park
    which I doubt would make much difference.
    
    I wish someone like charles Bronson would catch one of there bastards
    in the act and blow them into the car park in the skies, with a shorn
    off shotgun!!!!!
    
    pat
    
2463.14But apart from that, seems reasonable enough!CBHVAX::CBHLager LoutWed Jan 03 1996 13:126
>shorn off shotgun!!!!!
    
sawn off...
HTH,

Chris.
2463.15DON'T use your name.....WOTVAX::HATTONMI could fit in an unmod'ed Mclaren, at half the priceWed Jan 03 1996 14:176
     ref .13
    
    Put your reg No on, and NOT your name, or hang about with a shotgun %*)
    
    - MARK -
    
2463.16CBHVAX::CBHLager LoutWed Jan 03 1996 19:234
alternatively, buy a tank... there're some army surplus Scorpions going cheap 
apparently!  Will do 70mph and around 10mpg, but not at the same time!

Chris.
2463.17but can you fit bull bars on one?KERNEL::IMBIERSKITThu Jan 04 1996 10:092
    bit like a Frontera, then!
    8*)
2463.18 Black pots and pans and fires, methinks! ;^) CHEFS::POWELLMThe x3030 contractor.Fri Jan 26 1996 11:5913
                    <<< Note 2463.14 by CBHVAX::CBH "Lager Lout" >>>
                   -< But apart from that, seems reasonable enough! >-
    
    >shorn off shotgun!!!!!
    
    sawn off...
    HTH,
    
    >>>> Chris.
    
    	Bit rich considering you spelling, isn't it Chris?
    
    				;^) Malcolm ;^)
2463.19CBHVAX::CBHLager LoutFri Jan 26 1996 16:595
>    	Bit rich considering you spelling, isn't it Chris?
    
my spelling's usually okay.  You must be thinking of H'anus Mingus...

Chris.
2463.20KERNEL::PLANTCToo much pooh!Mon Jan 29 1996 16:1312
    
    
    I've only heard it referred to as a sawed off shot gun. :)))
    					^^^^^
    
    but if this rathole gets any deeper it will be a SOD off shotgun!
    :)))))
    
    
    Chris
    :)						
    
2463.21I STILL HAVE A FULL SET OF......SEDSWS::OCONNELLPETER PERFECTFri Feb 02 1996 09:5711
    Having done the bizz and enamelled the reg across the hubs, put 2
    huge cable ties on each also, touch wood so far no more have gone!!!.
    
    It seems to be a novel idea about the reg, whilst not looking
    wonderful they are still there, various garage mechanics/mot
    testers have made various comments!!!.
    
    (god knows how the wife will get em off if she has a puncture!)
    
    pat
    
2463.22Blow-up wifeWOTVAX::GILLILANDPI&#039;ve been mad for ******* yearsFri Feb 02 1996 14:475
    >> (god knows how the wife will get em off if she has a puncture!)
    
    Pardon?
    
    Phil Gill.
2463.23have to come off if flat...!SEDSWS::OCONNELLPETER PERFECTTue Feb 06 1996 09:3515
    Well if she wants help on the roadside to get the wheel covers/wheels
    off she may have to look enticing!?? for someone with some side cutters
    on them.
    
    The last time she had a problem with her wheels was when she was
    driving down a country lane to her station, was forced over to the near
    side whereupon a large flint inflicted a huge dent in the rim, wrote
    off the tyre also. She noticed there was a problem with the front end
    response but still managed to drive it another 5 miles to the station.
    
    So perhaps she doesn't need anyone's help!!??
    
    (mus stop rambling..........................)
    pat
    
2463.24CBHVAX::CBHOwl-Stretching Time!Fri Feb 23 1996 12:4910
My company car is the latest victim of roadwheel theft.  As usual, it wasn't 
fitted with locking nuts.  Although these wouldn't have deterred a 
professional, a professional wouldn't have nicked a badly scratched wheel, so 
I'd probably still be in possession of a full set of wheels had Digital forked 
out for them.  Now they're faced with a bill for thousands, as I expect that 
the underside of the car has been damaged due to having been dropped onto the 
ground.  At the very least I would expect a new cat will be needed, possibly 
new brake discs, exhaust, sills, brake pipes, etc.

Chris.