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| 2275.1 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Always with the -ve waves | Fri Jun 24 1994 15:51 | 9 |
| I can vouch for the 1.7TD engine. I've had my Cavalier LS for 8 months
now and 17,000 miles up with no problems and a regular 45mpg.
Its a bit of a slug at times particlularly when pulling away but
thats a diesel for you.
The biggest pain is the rather frequent 4,500 miles service intervals.
Royston
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| 2275.2 | CDX CD player? | WELCLU::CLIFTON | Paul Clifton | Mon Jun 27 1994 15:38 | 14 |
| I gather that the 1.7TD engine comes with a Catalytic Converter; do you
think this now makes it Environmentally Friendly...I gather there is
quite a debate about whether diesels are much good for the environment,
when compared to the average unleaded variety.
What about the CD player in the CDX...anybody had any experience of
these, are they reliable, do they jump at all etc.??? Has any body
added a multi CD option to their Lease Car...if so, how much extra did
it add to the lease cost, did they choose a 6 or 10 CD player, what
make etc...
In fervent anticipation,
Paul.
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| 2275.3 | | WELSWS::HILLN | It's OK, it'll be dark by nightfall | Mon Jun 27 1994 16:48 | 7 |
| The cat on a diesel will reduce the emission of gaseous rubbish, but it
doesn't do anything for the particulate emissions.
The moaning about diesels concerns the particulates which are accusedof
aggravating asthma and other respiratory ailments. What is overlooked
is that diesels have a much lower benzene emission than petrol engines.
And benzene is carcinogenic and toxic at all levels of emission.
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| 2275.4 | Let the polluter pay | BRUMMY::WALLACE_J | | Mon Jun 27 1994 17:59 | 5 |
| The moaning about diesel cars also overlooks the fact that around 80%
of diesel-generated pollutants (depending on which pollutant you
measure) come from trucks+buses, not cars. These are Govt figures so
must be OK, seen recently in the press. And of that 60% probably a
small number of trucks+buses generate a huge amount of pollution.
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| 2275.5 | CDX Demonstrator arrives! | WELCLU::CLIFTON | Paul Clifton | Tue Jun 28 1994 15:05 | 42 |
| Well...suprise suprise, Vauxhall have managed to muster a demonstrator
for the CDX 1.7TD...at short notice as well!! The car looks very sleek
and an initial test drive has proved a few things...
1. The sound proofing compared with the GLS 1.7TD is alot better, I
mean ALOT better. Driving around, even with the roof wide open,
I cant hear the engine at all; pretty amazing for a diesel!
2. The CD player (a Blaupunkt {sp?}) is a pretty good sound system
especially when compared to the Phillips thingy in my current
Renault. There is no jumping and the standard speakers do a pretty
reasonable job of handling the sound output. My only niggle there
is the single play option...a multiplay option would be alot better.
3. General trim level is very good, especially with the added passenger
air bag and all electric goodies, although Vauxhall's rationale for
removing the seat storage pockets and tape storage areas, has to be
questioned...where do I put my maps?..not the floor *again*.
4. Ride is very good, although the softer suspension on the corners can
be a little un-nerving.
5. Gearbox is smooth, and at first test, does seem to be better than
the GLS I have tried (but dont they use the same gearbox??)
6. The most unusual feature is the new Security system they provide
with the CDX. This is a two tier security system. If the car is
left with the engine off for more than a few seconds, the imobiliser
cuts in. This can be turned off again by pressing the keyfob
button, prior to turning the engine over. If you get out of the car
and want to quickly "lock up", pressing and holding the keyfob
button engages the imobiliser AND central locks the car; do the same
to unlock and disengage the imobiliser. If you want real security,
use the key to lock the door and this trips in the deadlock and the
pressure sensor alarm. Its all quite good, if a little confusing at
first.
Generally, I am very pleased and I think I may be placing my order any
day now.
Paul.
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| 2275.6 | Got one but not entirely happy | MYKENE::TCCS11::Trevor_Burns | (Just another Flunky) | Wed Aug 24 1994 16:19 | 10 |
| I have now got one of these CDX beasts with the leather CD and alarm
and after doing 2000 miles I have a problem of returning only aprox
41-42 mpg. This should not be my driving style as my previous car was
a cav 1.7 td GLS in which I did 64000 in 2 years geting not less than
45 mpg. Also this car seems to be low on power with the turbo cutting
in aprox 2500 rpm where as th GLS seemed to cut in below 2000 rpm
Has anybody else got one yet and have any impressions of it?.
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| 2275.7 | Itsa not so bad... | REOSV1::ROEM | | Wed Aug 24 1994 16:24 | 5 |
| 41-42 MPG for me too. No complaints after the Frontera Sport's 23mpg.
I'm assuming yours is the TD version and not petrol.
Mike
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| 2275.8 | Yes its a 1.7 TD | MYKENE::TCCS11::Trevor_Burns | (Just another Flunky) | Wed Aug 24 1994 17:34 | 9 |
| Yep its the TD version but I want me old 1.7 TD engine from
my cav GLS back at 45 + mpg.
Whats the difference between my old 92 k reg and my new M reg
1.7 td engine / gearbox combination thats costing me the mileage ?.
Anybody know.
Thanks for any info Trev.
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| 2275.9 | Worthless note | BAHTAT::DODD | | Wed Aug 24 1994 17:37 | 3 |
| Pure guess Catalyst, Gearing, Weight, "Improvements"
Andrew
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| 2275.10 | | BERN01::GOODEJ | Mr Dragon | Thu Aug 25 1994 09:54 | 9 |
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Re .6
>>I have now got one of these CDX beasts with the leather CD and alarm
What is a "leather CD". How does it work. Is it cheaper than the
metal/plastic ones??? 8-)
JBG
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| 2275.11 | Mpg gets better ??? | WELCLU::CLIFTON | Paul Clifton | Thu Aug 25 1994 14:23 | 10 |
| My New CDX is due at the end of September and I must admit to being a
little concerned about the mpg figures here. Could it be that the
engine is new and not "run in" yet, perhaps the mpg gets better as the
engine gets looser ??
A mate of mine has the GLS 1.7TD and he started off with 41mpg but
after 2000 miles was getting 45mpg and now never gets less than 50mpg.
Perhaps things get better ??!
Paul 8-/
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| 2275.12 | Almost certain it will improve | ARRODS::BARROND | Stuff up and it blows sky hi | Tue Sep 06 1994 15:14 | 13 |
| I'd wait a few more thousand (10K) and see. I suspect it will
improve.
My 2.1TD Espace is more economic after 20k. Average 38MPG... this
with lots of short journeys.. shopping, school runs about 4-5 miles
round trip + plus a 60 mile dash to sister-in-laws once a week.
When running in I only got 35MPG and with a more restrained driving
style. The engine was still tight at 5k and would not rev to the red
line very easily. It now whistles up there very sweetly.
Dave
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| 2275.13 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Always with the -ve waves | Thu Sep 15 1994 17:02 | 51 |
| For those interested in Cavalier turbo diesel fuel economy,
here is the complete rundown on the fuel used in my car from new.
For some reason I've always kept a record when I fill up and when I
have enough data I run it through a program I knocked together.
I think it bears out that old diesels never die they just get more
economical :-)
Royston...
Fuel Consumption Cavalier LS Turbo Diesel L257 GDP
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Date Mileage Gals Cost C/G Month Over MPG Av
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#
06/10/93 00174
04/11/93 02525 48.60 104.70 2.15 October 2351 Miles 48.37 48.37
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2351 48.60 104.70
07/12/93 04610 43.74 94.00 2.15 November 2085 Miles 47.67 48.04
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4436 92.34 198.70
06/01/94 06222 33.16 74.00 2.23 December 1612 Miles 48.61 48.19
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6048 125.50 272.70
07/02/94 08530 48.77 106.10 2.18 January 2308 Miles 47.32 47.95
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8356 174.27 378.80
05/03/94 10500 39.63 86.30 2.18 February 1970 Miles 49.71 48.27
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10326 213.90 465.10
05/04/94 12740 45.32 98.68 2.18 March 2240 Miles 49.43 48.48
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12566 259.22 563.78
01/05/94 14200 31.95 70.00 2.19 April 1460 Miles 45.70 48.17
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14026 291.17 633.78
01/06/94 16134 38.03 84.30 2.22 May 1934 Miles 50.85 48.48
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15960 329.20 718.08
02/07/94 17860 32.50 72.00 2.22 June 1726 Miles 53.11 48.90
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17686 361.70 790.08
07/08/94 19880 41.46 89.80 2.17 July 2020 Miles 48.72 48.88
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19706 403.16 879.88
05/09/94 21950 41.12 92.50 2.25 August 2070 Miles 50.34 49.01
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21776 444.28 972.38
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| 2275.14 | Tick | FILTON::PACK_J | Cloud Base is heaven | Fri Sep 16 1994 15:16 | 31 |
|
RE the 1.7TD CDX.
The CD player is great, it has features like; extended other networks,
(variable) increase in sound level with speed. Good sound and no skips,
(unless you slam the glove compartment door).
Its a slug and thats not the diesel, my BX 1.7TD's both moved when
requested to. I thinks its a combination of poor engine and heavy car.
The security system sucks, if you use the remote control to lock the
car the alarm is not armed. You have to dead lock the car with the key
to put the alarm on.
The roof is low I find it hard to keep my neck straight in the back,
and my hair touches the roof in the front.
There is now where to put your CD's, and the back window lock off
feature is where the kids can reach it!
I'm also in dispute with vauxhall about whether my alarm actually
works.
Ahh but the tunes I get from the CD and an RDS radio that feeds you
with traffic bulletins, from more than one radio station as you listen
to CD's, the radio, or nothing at all...
:J
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| 2275.15 | 10 play CD Autochanger | WELCLU::CLIFTON | Paul Clifton | Tue Sep 20 1994 14:12 | 24 |
| Not quite in receipt of my CDX yet...
Interestingly, I ordered my CDX 1.7TD back in July (94 spec) and have
recently been told that because the delivery is after September, I will
actually receive a 95 spec model. Not suprisingly chuffed with this
snippet of news, I wandered down to my local dealer to find out what
additions I would be getting for my money....
Delays on the courtesy lights
Heating ducts in the rear
Rear reading lights
Front map reading lights
Illuminated vanity mirrors
AND...the option of a 10play boot mounted CD Autochanger
Whoop..whoop I cried and quickly rang up Fleet to see if this goody
could be added to my order, since it was not an option on the 94 spec
model. Unfortunately, they told me the car had been "processed" too
far, and since it was factory fit only, I couldnt have it without a
complete reorder (at the higher VTX quoted lease value). So I am
stuffed there, but anybody looking at the CDX might be intereseted to
know that this excellent goody is now a factory fit option. It appears
pretty good too, with RDS radio, Stereo Tape and 10 play CD, all for a
list price of �600...sniff, sniff..wish I had one...
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| 2275.16 | | GENIE::GOODEJ | | Tue Sep 20 1994 14:17 | 8 |
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Hey Paul,
don't knock it man, you've still got illuminated vanity mirrors!!
8-)
JBG
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| 2275.17 | | VANGA::KERRELL | Hakuna matata! | Tue Sep 20 1994 15:58 | 9 |
| re.15:
> Delays on the courtesy lights
> Front map reading lights
> Illuminated vanity mirrors
These are not new. Had 'em on my last CD and now on my GLS.
Dave.
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| 2275.18 | why �400/year difference? | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Tue Sep 20 1994 16:31 | 11 |
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As far as I can see theres not a lot of difference between the GLS and
CDX in TD guise sure the V6 CDX has leather seats, the 2.0i 16v has
airconditioning but in TD form you get wonderful luxuries such as twin
illuminated vanity mirrors and kerb illumination lights in doors but I
can't see �400/years(company list difference) worth, or am I missing
something?
Richard
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| 2275.19 | | COMICS::SHELLEY | Always with the -ve waves | Tue Sep 20 1994 16:43 | 9 |
| �not a lot of difference
With the CDX you get alloys as standard.
Personally I couldn't be bothered to pay the extra for the GLS let
alone the CD.
Royston (Humble LS driver who has to live without rear heater ducts and
electric mirrors)
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| 2275.20 | alloys on GLS!! | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Tue Sep 20 1994 16:48 | 5 |
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Alloys are standard on the GLS now! (95 model)
Richard
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| 2275.21 | 94 CDX and 95 GLS differences? | WELCLU::CLIFTON | Paul Clifton | Wed Sep 21 1994 14:08 | 12 |
| re: .18
You're not wrong really. Now that they have announced the 95 spec
models, there isnt a lot of extras in the CDX that you dont get in the
GLS. I'm just glad I got the CDX at 94 prices...dunno what the
difference is between the price of the new GLS and the old CDX,
probably not a lot in it I should think. One things for sure, you dont
get the option of the 10 play CD Autochanger on the GLS...
8-(
still a little niffed....Paul.
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| 2275.22 | Single CD option | WELCLU::YOUNG | Policemen aren't nasty people | Wed Sep 21 1994 14:57 | 13 |
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No you don't get the optoin of a 10 play autochanger but you do get the
option of a single play one instead of the tape player for a very
modest �38/yr
What about the 16v engine in the LS and GLS are we going to to get
those for the current listed prices?
Does anybody tow a caravan with a 2.0I 16 Ecotec engine (in a Cavalier
CDX, SRI or Calibra)
Richard
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| 2275.23 | After five months | FILTON::PACK_J | Cloud Base is heaven | Tue Jan 31 1995 15:47 | 10 |
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Reference .14
I've now 'blown up' (no quite) my speakers in the CDX ie the quality of
sound is becoming worse and VAUXHALL refuse to recognise the problem.
Ghrrrrr
:J
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