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Conference terri::cars_uk

Title:Cars in the UK
Notice:Please read new conference charter 1.70
Moderator:COMICS::SHELLEYELD
Created:Sun Mar 06 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2584
Total number of notes:63384

2134.0. "Vauxhall Car Hi-Fi Options" by ROTHKO::AUSTIN () Fri Aug 13 1993 15:42

Has anyone heard or used the CD player and Radio Cassette with RDS - 4870 that is
listed in the Vauxhall accessories catalogue. 

I have been quoted a driver price of �275 per annum , it lists at �800+ in 
Vauxhall option price catalogue.

Any opinions on the use or quality of this system would be useful.

Thanks,

Simon Austin
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2134.1CHEFS::BRIGGSRFour Flat Tyres on a Muddy RoadFri Aug 13 1993 16:138
    
    The implication is you think you are getting a good deal. As I
    understood it 'extras' were always priced to be written off over the
    lease period on the basis that very few extras actually increase the
    second hand value of a car. Therefore �275 x 3 = �825 which sounds
    about right.
    
    Richard
2134.2KERNEL::SHELLEYRFri Aug 13 1993 16:487
    ��275 x 3 = �825 which sounds about right.
    
    Sounds like a rip off to me. The new car policy states that there would be a
    discount of between 25% and 50% for Vauxhall options. (Air con which
    is �725 is available for �90/yr on some models!)
    
    Royston
2134.3BRABAM::ROBERTSJust DO ITFri Aug 13 1993 17:266
    I was quoted �1,000 to have one installed in a Calibra Turbo - since
    it's not on the PCL you need a separate quote. I was also informed 
    by Wadham's in Reading that you have to have ICE which GM supply or
    recommend i.e NO Sony, Alpine, Kenwood ...... etc.
    
    Keith
2134.4WHAT !!!NEWOA::CROME_AFri Aug 13 1993 17:4815
	Wadham Kennings are the sort of garage who ring up PHH when you have a
problem with your Vauxhall alarm and tell them not to allow Digital to have VSL
alarms fitted !!!!

	So as for the ICE bit - IMHO - they haven't got a *%%%ing clue.

	Andy_who_had_his_CDi_towed_in_because_the_Vauxhall_alarm_screwed_up

PS

I had it towed in again the next day because they didn't fix it properly the 
first time, only this time they were fully booked with no garage space and the
poor mechanic had to fix it outside in a terrible rain storm !!

Should have done it right first time !!!
2134.5Change supplierVANGA::KERRELLPluck a Plump PlumTue Aug 17 1993 09:035
re.4:

I use RAC/Stratleys and don't get these problems ;-)

Dave.
2134.6CD Player for VauxhallsWOTVAX::ROXBURGHAWed Nov 10 1993 14:139
I've just rung up the local Vauxhall dealer and they will supply their single 
CD/Radio for 108 quid + vat. This is a one off payment that is not connected 
to the annual lease agreement. 

The CD player replaces the Radio/Cassette player.

Rgds,

Andy.
2134.7driver cost for cd player in Vauxhall CavalierUKARC1::HUDSONThat's what I thinkMon Jan 17 1994 17:504
I had a quote for �35/per year extra for the CD300 CD/Radio upgrade in a
Cavalier LS 1.7TD (cost price in Vauxhall catalogue �108+vat)

nick
2134.8COMICS::FISCHERTue Jan 18 1994 10:205
Is �108 the cost price for the CD player or for the upgrade?
ie you pay �108 to have the standard radio cassette removed
and the CD put in.

Ian
2134.9upgrade costUKARC1::HUDSONThat's what I thinkTue Jan 18 1994 12:235
re:.8

�108 is the upgrade cost; you lose the tape and gain the CD.

nick
2134.10COMICS::FISCHERWed Jan 19 1994 08:402
So, in other words you're saying that the �35/year is another
car scheme rip off!
2134.11BAHTAT::DODDWed Jan 19 1994 10:127
    Why do you think this is a rip-off? A CD will make no difference to the
    residual value so the lease company recover the extra cost over the
    term of the lease 108/3 = 36 so �35 seems OK to me. It has always been
    the case that non-significant extras have been fully charged over the
    lease.
    
    Andrew
2134.12COMICS::FISCHERWed Jan 19 1994 11:287
From Craig Johnston's letter to all employees - June 28th 1993

"Employees will also be able to order from this list a range
of Vauxhall factory fitted options at between 25% and 50%
discount..."

or is a CD dealer fit.
2134.13UKARC1::HUDSONThat's what I thinkWed Jan 19 1994 12:357
well, if you count the fact that the price including VAT is �128, then the
cost of (3*35 = 105) means you could argue that there is a discount of around
18% being offered...

[no, it's not a dealer fit option]

nick
2134.14No vat payableWELCLU::YOUNGPolicemen aren't nasty peopleWed Jan 19 1994 22:386
    
    
    Why should the vat be included, vat registered companies don't pay vat
    do they?
    
    Richard
2134.15Everybody pays VAT!CMOTEC::POWELLNostalgia isn't what it used to be, is it?Thu Jan 20 1994 10:386
	The difference is that if you are registered for VAT (compulsory if
your turnover exceeds, I think, �35,000.00 per Annum), that you can claim back
the VAT paid out against the VAT you have to pay in to H.M. Customs ans Excise.

				Malcolm.
2134.16Ah, but ...MUGGER::GRAHAMGraham Smith, Solution Support GroupThu Jan 20 1994 12:084
    But there are some things which a company has to pay VAT on which they
    cannot claim the VAT back on. Some years ago the rules changed, such
    that the company that I was working for at the time could no longer
    claim back the VAT on the (one and only) company car.
2134.17SUBURB::THOMASHThe Devon DumplingThu Jan 20 1994 12:238
>	The difference is that if you are registered for VAT (compulsory if
>your turnover exceeds, I think, �35,000.00 per Annum),
	
	a nit, but it's  45,000 now

	Heather

2134.18SUBURB::THOMASHThe Devon DumplingThu Jan 20 1994 12:3122
>    But there are some things which a company has to pay VAT on which they
>    cannot claim the VAT back on. 

	This is not true, if it was for the use of the company.

>   Some years ago the rules changed, such
>    that the company that I was working for at the time could no longer
>    claim back the VAT on the (one and only) company car.

	The rules changed to try to prevent a personal car being disgused as a 
	company car.

	Digital changed the rules of it's car scheme at that time, to be able to
	claim the VAT back.

	You just have to talk with the Inland revenue, and find out what the
	allowances and restrictions are.
	Then you take your choice - to stick within the allowances/restrictions
	and claim the VAT back - or to work outside those 
	allowances/restrictions and pay the VAT.

	Heather
2134.19CD playerROTHKO::AUSTINWed Nov 23 1994 14:2610
Hi,

Has anyone any experience with the Vauxhall single CD/Tuner.

Any comments on sound quality, what makes it skip etc., would be very welcome.

Thanks,

Simon Austin
2134.20RIOT02::KINGWed Nov 23 1994 16:597
    
    The one fitted in the Calibra I had was OK, nice sound, good volume,
    but it cooked CD's (like all-in-one tape units can do).  Not sure what
    adverse effect this would have on the CD's, but they were seriously
    warm after 30 minutes.
    
    Chris.
2134.21KERNEL::WITHALLGThe HeroThu Dec 08 1994 13:428
    
    Had my CD player four days now. I've got a  1.7TD gls wrapped
    around it. No problems yet, Infact I think its rather good. I would
    have liked a few other gadgets + speakers that can handle base, but on
    the whole  I like it.
    
    
    Gary
2134.22replace Vectra hifi with own unit for duration of lease?KZIN::HUDSONThat's what I thinkMon Mar 03 1997 16:0622
I went for the CD upgrade mentioned in .7 when I had my last Cavalier.

I've been really pleased with the CD player; it was well worth the extra
money.

But now my car is up for renewal.  In order to have the option of a CD
player in a Vectra, you have to get a GLS.  For an LS or an Envoy, the
catalog (and Wadham Kenning) say that you can't upgrade to a CD player.

I don't want to pay an extra load of money + tax to get a GLS just so I
have the option of adding a CD player!

I mailed Vauxhall to ask if it would be possible to take out the unit
that comes with the LS or Envoy and then put it back at the end of the
lease but they didn't answer me.

Has anyone any experience of doing this?  I realise that if I take out
the original unit then any one I put in won't work with the dashboard
display stuff but I'm not bothered about this...

Thanks for any comments
nick
2134.23COMICS::SHELLEYDon't get mad, get even.Tue Mar 04 1997 10:509
    Nick,
    
    You may want to get in touch with Simon Austin as he is planning to
    fit his own personal CD player and auto changer into his new Vectra
    which is being delivered shortly. Currently he has it in his Astra.
    
    Regards
    
    Royston