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| 2106.1 | I'll try anything!! | WOTVAX::BROWNR | Andy Brown | Sat Jun 19 1993 12:22 | 15 |
| Hi Roger,
I haven't actually had a bash yet but I intend to in the coming month.
Unfortunately I'm working in Warrington at the moment which is about
240 miles from where I live so I don't get much free time at weekends.
A friend of mine is trying to get hold of a car. He may have it already
so I'll have to give him a ring later today. After we've done the
necessary mods we'll be ready to bump & bash.
I've always wanted to have a go, so I guess It'll be a bit of a giggle.
I'll let you how I get on later!!
Cheers
Andy
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| 2106.2 | Learning the hard way | VESSA::GOSWELLR | ( Roger Goswell @NEW 774-6253 - U.K. ) | Sat Jun 19 1993 12:34 | 13 |
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Andy ..
Where abouts will you be racing ?
I use Swindon at present but there is a large team meeting at
Farringdon this Sunday.
So far there are 29 teams of 5 cars entered.
Should be fun.. I will let you know the outcome.
Roger
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| 2106.3 | | WOTVAX::BROWNR | Andy Brown | Sat Jun 19 1993 18:06 | 15 |
| > So far there are 29 teams of 5 cars entered.
I think the track's going to be a tad overcrowded!!
Only joking.
The nearest track to me is Matchams which is near Ringwood, so I
suspect we'll end up racing there although I might be tempted to have a
go on a grass track as well.
I'll look forward to hearing about your escapades in the near future.
Andy.
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| 2106.4 | | VANTEN::MITCHELLD | "Management is opaque" | Mon Jun 21 1993 11:14 | 3 |
| >> Im a new commer to the sport but having FUN...
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I didnt know they raced vans
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| 2106.5 | Big End | NEWOA::LAWSON_M | | Mon Jun 21 1993 20:59 | 4 |
| Re.1
I here your big end has gone where you got banged up the arse !
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| 2106.6 | ;^) | NEWOA::DALLISON | | Tue Jun 22 1993 01:30 | 6 |
| Mike,
"Here" should be spelt "hear".
Hope this helps,
-Tony
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| 2106.8 | Long time racer. | BAZZER::CULLEY | BARRIE CULLEY | Tue Jun 22 1993 11:57 | 19 |
| re a few replies back, Yes they do race Vans and Caravans.
I race at Aldermaston and have done for several years. I am the captain
of a team called the Hillbillies (team colours are Red and Blue). We also
race at Faringdon and Standlake. Faringdon and Aldermaston are both dirt
tracks whereas Standlake is tarmac. My race number is HB5 so if you
come to one of the tracks I race at, drop over for a chat.
I am not racing at the moment as I have a broken leg, from football not
banger racing I hasten to add, but when I do race I prefer front wheel
drive cars such as Maxis and Princesses. They feel a bit small when up
against the Jags but are nimble enough to keep out of too much trouble.
My son drives in the kids race at Aldermaston, he is 14 now and has
been racing since he was 12. He has a 1500 Maxi of his own. I got fedup
with him telling me to preserve my car for him to race, so now I end up
towing 2 cars to the track which is only about a mile from my house.
Barrie...
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| 2106.9 | light me up !! | CRASHR::JILLY | COSROCS -- In Thrust We Trust | Tue Jun 22 1993 15:56 | 5 |
| Would someone please illuminate this Yank as to what the he!! "banger
racing" is :*) ??? Is it demolition derby as we call it or something else ?
Jilly a_Yankee_circle_track_fan
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| 2106.10 | | TIMMII::TOMMII::RDAVIES | Amateur Expert | Tue Jun 22 1993 16:15 | 3 |
| Got it in 1
Richard
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| 2106.11 | Well, they get a new paint job.... | PAKORA::CDOUDIE | Zig....IN YOUR FACE !! | Tue Jun 22 1993 16:18 | 5 |
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YUUUUUP, you got it in one. Cars fit for the scrap heap are raced and
no holds barred.
colin.
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| 2106.12 | Explanation. | BAZZER::CULLEY | BARRIE CULLEY | Tue Jun 22 1993 17:23 | 36 |
| >> YUUUUUP, you got it in one. Cars fit for the scrap heap are raced and
>> no holds barred.
Almost, there are some rules, but they are regularly broken.
1) No turning round and going the wrong way.
2) No hitting the drivers door.
3) No jacking (hitting stationary cars especially if the drivers still
in it. Can be painful to be hit by a car doing anything upto 45 mph.
4) No following in. Tracks usually have a ditch around them, you can
push, roll or whatever a car into the ditch but you should not
follow it in. The car will come to rest against the other side of
the ditch and the effect of 2 cars coming to rest rather quickly is
again painful/dangerous.
Thats about it.
Not sure what US Destruction Derbys are but with Banger racing, as said
before thay are old cars that are fit only for the scrap heap. The cars
are prepared by moving the cooling system further into the car, small
petrol tanks are fitted inside the cars, batteries have to be sealed
(wrapped in plastic) to prevent leakage in the event of a roll and
supports must be fitted behind the drivers seat to hold it in place to
prevent the roof crushing in. About 30 something cars race round an
oval for about 12 laps, the winner is the 1st car to complete the laps
and as said before almost anything goes. a meeting is usually split
into qualifiers and a final, then individual trophy races.
We also have Destruction Derbys ( often called Death and Destruction)
where the last car running wins and here the only rule is No hitting
drivers doors. These are usually the last race and enables people to
finish off their cars if they want to (cars sometimes last more than 1
meeting).
Barrie...
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| 2106.13 | | OASS::FLASHE::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Tue Jun 22 1993 18:15 | 8 |
| Most, if not all of the US Demolition Derbys are based on the second part
of your description - a basic free-for-all with the last car running
declared the winner.
I have seen a few Figure 8 races held on a 1/4 mile oval. Now that's
interesting!
Dave
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| 2106.14 | | CRASHR::JILLY | COSROCS -- In Thrust We Trust | Tue Jun 22 1993 21:04 | 12 |
| > I have seen a few Figure 8 races held on a 1/4 mile oval. Now that's
> interesting!
To say the least !! We have them at Beacon Hill in Pueblo, CO.
Is there any circle track racing in Europe similar to the US 'Saturday
night bullrings' ??
I think 'banger' racing would take it's place with train racing here.
Jilly
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| 2106.15 | SAnswers on a post card | VESSA::GOSWELLR | ( Roger Goswell @NEW 774-6253 - U.K. ) | Thu Jun 24 1993 20:29 | 11 |
| Hi Guys .....
..
Yes Mike the cars dead but the next is ready..!!
..
Hi Barrie were you at Farringdon for the team meeting.....?
..
I woz, "READING RAIDERS" No. 447 ......
Roger
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| 2106.16 | help welcome. | VESSA::GOSWELLR | ( Roger Goswell @NEW 774-6253 - U.K. ) | Fri Jun 25 1993 20:53 | 20 |
|
Barrie....
Any tips on setting up the car would be gratefully apreciated.
So far :-
Role cage using a 4 poster scaffolding settup
Motorcycle Fuel Tank
Rad in Rear Window + Fan
Battery where the passenger sea used to be.
I am at present trying to stick to on type of car
Ford Cortina's/Capri's/Granada's
I'm using cortina's at the moment.
Roger
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| 2106.17 | | NEWOA::DALLISON | They make redundancies don't they? | Sat Jun 26 1993 08:02 | 5 |
| Roger,
Why not use the Renault ?
(I think your R19 16v would do quite well!)
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| 2106.18 | General info. | BAZZER::CULLEY | BARRIE CULLEY | Mon Jun 28 1993 10:17 | 46 |
| Hi Roger,
No, I didnt go to Faringdon for the team meeting, I went to watch my
daugther participate in a gymkana(sp) wher she was riding a friends
horse. My mate raced at the team meeting, in our team colours HB6, he
has a Capri with a 2.3 engine, that goes well. I am not much of a
spectator, I much prefer to drive but dont expect to get back into
racing until August.
With regard to setup, everybody has their own way of doing things, I
prefer front wheel drives but one thing you should think about is
getting a water tank. It has the advantages that
1) Its not pressurised and if you overheat you can just remove the cap
and top up.
2) Also if a hose goes you dont get sprayed with boiling water.
3) As tanks hold about 16 gallons of water you are less likely to
overheat.
4) If you mount the tank between the back wheels the extra weight of
water will help with handling, stop the back bouncing so much.
Different cars have different weaknesses. Dont know tto much about
Fords and it also depends what effort you want to put into it.
Cortinas have a crumple zone at the back and drop very quickly, you
want to find a way of starting the boot to bend upwards so that further
impacts will increase the strength. This saves cutting the boot off
later which exposes the rear axle. People who bend boots use a HIAB or
JCB to lift the rear end and then drop it on a stack of tyres or logs,
not the sort of equipment most people have. The front torsion bars (I
think thats what they are) on Cortinas are rubber mounted on the inner
wings, remove the nut and fit large washers, this stops them getting
pulled through when the front ends hit. Cortina front ends are quite
strong but keep a spare thermostat housing as these can get broken when
the front is pushed in. The only other thing I know about them is to
keep a spare cam belt handy as they have a bad habit of breaking.
Capris are very strong at the back and the fronts quite good as well,
their weak point seems to be the front struts, my mate always carries
spares. They are also light on the rear end when stripped out, use a
water tank to compensate.
Thats about it.
Barrie...
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| 2106.19 | RULES !!!! ??? What Rules...????? | VESSA::GOSWELLR | ( Roger Goswell @NEW 774-6253 - U.K. ) | Fri Jul 02 1993 10:20 | 29 |
| Hi Barrie....
Sunday went a little to far at Swindon.
? Drivers Door Rule ? What Rule ?????
My friend (Stan) was Deliberatly hit in the Drivers Door
by car number C10 (Dougie). No action was taken regards
this but Stan has three cracked ribs, Two teeth missing.
and is in a severe amount of pain.
On recovering the car at the end of the race (race was
restarted ) the C10 drivers comments were " IF YOU CANT
TAKE IT DON'T COME BACK" Stan happened to be in the
ambulance on his way to hospital at this time.
On getting home and transfering another freinds days
recording of the racing onto normal video tape, I came
across the said event. Visual evidence of deliberate
'DD', We are taking this pluss photo's back to the
track next week to show the officials and to get them
to do something about this before somebody gets even more
seriously hurt.
I will keep you posted on the outcome.....
Regards
Roger
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| 2106.20 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Fri Jul 02 1993 15:24 | 5 |
| What sort of door beam protection is added to help save the driver? You you
just have stock door panels? Maybe a few beams of roll cage tubing could help
in future events?
Dave
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| 2106.21 | there was | VESSA::GOSWELLR | ( Roger Goswell @NEW 774-6253 - U.K. ) | Fri Jul 02 1993 16:20 | 18 |
| Re: -1
Roll cage wich included door bars.
the main bar accross the door is bent and in about one
third of the way across the drivers seat.
about a 25 degree bend in the scaffold pole.
the attached upright is now between the acelorator and
the brake pedal (Rover SD1 2600cc Auto)
Doors were welded shut and all weld's were broken.
the hit was hard.
Roger
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| 2106.22 | Bangers - Essex mans Formula 1 | CHEFS::MARCHR | | Fri Jul 02 1993 17:20 | 7 |
| Why don't you choose a Motor Sport where contact is not part of the
game.
I don't condone the actions of "Dougie", but his sort are prevalent in
Banger racing (IMHO). What can you expect! I expect they usually win.
Rupert
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| 2106.23 | | OASS::BURDEN_D | This is a Studebaker Year | Fri Jul 02 1993 17:20 | 15 |
| Pending any rules clarification, maybe it's time to make a NASCAR-type chassis
and watch other car bounce off it! The door 'frame' on the a NASCAR chassis
consists of multiple horizontal beams with a verticle beam down the middle. Not
much would get through that.
Granted, all this reinforcing kind of detracts from the 'sport', especially if
one aspect is to keep the costs low. Didn't Derek Mitchell go down this road
with his Lotus and rules at a local track? The organizers seemed to look the
other way as long as it was a long time member breaking them. Seems to happen
everywhere.
Hopefully the organizers will do something when you present them with the video
of the incident.
Dave
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| 2106.24 | St Johns getting worried!!. | BAZZER::CULLEY | BARRIE CULLEY | Mon Jul 05 1993 10:45 | 29 |
| Went to Faringdon to watch on Sunday (yesterday). There was an
interesting announcement concerning the St Johns who attend the
meetings. It appears that a directive has been issued by the St Johns
organisation that in the event of an accident where a driver sustains
injuries such as neck, pelvis or back injuries, that the County ambulance
service should be called out and that they should make no attempt to
move the person. The track organiser pointed out that in their case
this would mean interruptions of upto an h, therfore jackings of
stationary cars which is the main culprit for this type of injury would
be more severely dealt with in the future.
This is supposed to be UK wide, so maybe you should point it out to the
Swindon organisers what impact long delays will have on spectator and
driver attendances. I for one would not race at a track where racing
was being held up by the loonies jacking cars.
Tracks are run mostly on a voluntary basis (Faringdon and Standlake are
the only exceptions I know) so the people who help the organiser
prepare the track seem to get away with various rule infrigements or
should that be blatant disregard for the safety rules.
Mick Hook at Faringdon/Standlake wont stand for any nonsense and bans
these people staright away. If specattors dont come he loses his income
and he wont stand for that. His tracks are both very fast and so there
are good pilesups and rolls to entertain the spectators, he doesnt want
the drivers injured by people breaking the basic safety rules.
Barrie...
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| 2106.25 | Yet more | VESSA::GOSWELLR | ( Roger Goswell @NEW 774-6253 - U.K. ) | Sat Jul 10 1993 21:16 | 22 |
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I couldn't make the Faringdon meet Sunday due to working shifts. And I am
unable to make the next two weekends, but I'll be there for the third (This
will be Swindon)!
I will be spectating Tomorrow @ Swindown but only for a short time. But this
is mainly to present the pictures to the official's and let them sort it out.
Even if this only gets them to tighten up on the rules from now on it will
be something.
Barrie i will be visiting Farringdon in three week time ( !! CAR PERMITING !!)
so may see you there.
Present car : Mk V Cortina
Team Name : Reading Raiders ( Temporary )
Colors : Red/White
Number : 447
Regards
Roger
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| 2106.26 | SWINDON TODAY | VESSA::GOSWELLR | ( Roger Goswell @NEW 774-6253 - U.K. ) | Sun Jul 11 1993 22:23 | 23 |
|
SWINDON was quite good today, Only got to see the first half due to being on
shift tonight.
VISITOR today were the SURREY STREET SQUAD with nothing smaller
than a 2.8 Granada in tail. Yanks & Jags being the favorite choice.
Good & Entertaining
SPIKEY getting the better of the SQUADS Jag by putting it on its roof.
Mr. BEAN's full length run at the Granny getting a welcome cheer.
Circncester yank actually rolled completely over back onto wheels and
carried on.
>>
Barrie ..If you want to have a look at some of this I have it on vid.
send a tape to put it on and I'll make a copy for you.
>>
Roger
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| 2106.27 | | VESSA::GOSWELLR | Looney in the making >> | Wed Aug 25 1993 14:37 | 11 |
| Hi Barrie
How are things going.
I beleive there is no racing at Farringdon
until the 15th-Sep. Is this correct ?
Regards
Roger
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| 2106.28 | | FORTY2::GEDDES | Gordy | Tue Sep 14 1993 16:01 | 14 |
| Hi,
I've just recently moved to reading. I have been banger racing at the
Horndean race track near Portsmouth for the past 3 years. I've currently got a
2litre cortina estate for the last meeting of the season this Sunday. Now I'm
living in Reading I'm hoping to move all my equipment up here and race somewhere
local. Does anyone have a contact for any of the local racing clubs?
I'm also looking for somewhere secure to store my equipment, mainly a
trailer, preferably with a car on it, tanks, spare tyres etc. I haven't really
started looking yet, but has anyone any ideas?
Thanks,
Gordy
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| 2106.29 | Remaining Venues | SUBURB::GOSWELLR | Roger Goswell (830)3105 @REO | Wed Oct 20 1993 22:52 | 29 |
| Gordy
Have you done any racing in REdaing area yet....?
Remaining events this year are :
Standlake Arena (A415 Standlake - Witney Road ) Concrete Track
12:30p.m. Start
31/10/93 - Banger Marathon + D & D
7/11/93 - Bonfire Fireworks + #60.00 D&D
14/10/93 - Banger D&D #50.00
27/12/93 - All Classes Christmas Capers
2/1/94 - Bangers Only Classic + D&D
Faringdon (A417 Faringdon - Wantage Road ) Dirt Track
1p.m. Start
24/10/93 - Banger Maraton + D&D
If interested I will be going to Faringdon Sunday if you want to have a
look. My regular track is closed at present and that is Swindon.
Regards
Roger
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| 2106.30 | Thanks for the dates. | FORTY2::GEDDES | Gordy | Thu Oct 21 1993 14:46 | 15 |
| Roger,
Unfortunately I haven't had time to race in Reading yet, due to having
to move house. I'll hopefully be going to Aldermaston on the 31-OCT as a
spectator, and hopefully race some time next season.
Thanks for the dates, I'll try and get along to some of those. A couple
of other good dates that are coming up that I definitely won't miss are :-
13-NOV-93 Matchams park Ringwood #3000 Banger open.
21-NOV-93 Wimbledon world championship.
Gordy.
PS Are there any strange rules at Faringdon or Standlake e.g Side ways
acros or size of water tanks. etc..
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| 2106.31 | And theres more | SUBURB::GOSWELLR | Roger Goswell (830)3105 @REO | Tue Oct 26 1993 08:29 | 11 |
| Gordy
No weird rules at Farringdon/Stanlake as of yet, Next season there is
rumour of compulsory Drivers Door protection.
Also you can only put tyres/Wrap Overs on front wheel drive cars.
Regards
Roger
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| 2106.32 | Next Years Fixtures (1994) | SUBURB::GOSWELLR | Roger Goswell (830)3105 @REO | Tue Oct 26 1993 08:42 | 53 |
| Fixture List for Next Year :
Standalke Arena ( 12:30 Starts except where stated * 12:00 Start )
Sunday March 13th
Sunday March 20th
Sunday March 27th
Friday April 1st Bank Holiday
Sunday April 17th
Moday May 2nd Bank Holiday
Sunday May 15th
Monday May 30th Bank Holiday
Sunday June 12th
Sunday June 26th
Sunday July 10th
Sunday July 24th
Sunday August 7th
Sunday August 21st
Monday August 29th Bank Holiday
Sunday Septemb 11th
Sunday Septemb 25th
Sunday**** October 2nd SEGTO Championship Round **********
Sunday October 16th
Sunday October 30th
Sunday November 6th
Sunday November13th
Monday**** December26th Boxing Day
Sunday**** January 1st Bank Holiday 1995
Faringdon ( One of these fixtures will have to canceled ??)
( All fixtures start at 1 p.m. )
Sunday April 3rd
April 10th
April 24th
May 8th
May 22nd
June 5th
June 19th
July 3rd
July 17th
July 31st
August 14th
Septemb 4th
Septemb 18th
October 9th
October 23rd
Roger
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| 2106.33 | Any Cars will do | SUBURB::GOSWELLR | Roger Goswell (830)3105 @REO | Thu Nov 11 1993 11:26 | 24 |
| Last meeting at Standlake( Except specials) this weekend , 14/11/93
.....
Will be Racing a 2600 SD1 Rover,,,,,,,,
If your interested Gordy and the car last you quite welcome to have
a go.
.....
!
On the other hand ..... I am interested in any car out there that
is big/Bulky and as hard as nails, This is for the Christmas
meeting. If anybody knows of anything (local to Reading would be
helpful). (Jag or the size of would be good)
If anything out their then either mail me on
Vax Mail SUBURB::GOSWELLR
EMail Roger Goswell @REO
or phone
Wrk 0635-526070/774-6070
Home 0734-885706
Regards
Roger
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