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2096.1 | | PEKING::SMITHRW | The Great Pyramid of Bloke | Wed Jun 09 1993 10:14 | 16 |
| Funny, I was reading an old issue of CAR last night ('86 vintage) that
had a short item on the BX ci auto. They reckoned it was equivalent in
performance terms to a 1300 petrol auto. Other reports I recall put
forward the view that the engine and gearbox, although each very worthy
items of kit, were mis-matched in this application. Citro�n tried
again, a few years later, after the power of the 19 XUD engine was
increased, with a much happier result but "still a slow drive".
All the above is, of course, hearsay.
There's not an enormous number of turbo-diesels around, which may be
part of the answer.
Richard (Currently non-fundholding Xantia turbo-diesel CVT purchasing
opportunity... 8*) 8*) )
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2096.2 | Might not all fit under bonnet? | HEWIE::RUSSELL | I'm not a free man, I'm a QS-PRMU9-04. | Wed Jun 09 1993 10:16 | 12 |
| on the BX, a garage told me it was "impossible" to fit the auto gearbox
on the turbo engine, due to the under bonnet clearances, etc.
This was also the reason you couldn't get air con with the auto on the
standard diesel.
However, I agree with you; the torque curve is ideal for the TD...
Maybe the Xantia will allow this combination?
Peter.
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2096.3 | | MGB::GILLOTT | Mark Gillott, CBN, 831-3172 (RKG) | Wed Jun 09 1993 11:29 | 9 |
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The current range of ZX turbo diesels have an auto option. I did look at
the published performance/mpg figures and remember thinking they were ok -
nothing startling, just ok. Have you checked out the ZX?.
Like you, the idea of a TD + auto-box really appeals, its just that there
are very few about.
Mark
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2096.4 | and ABS | PAPERS::CORNE | John Corne - Product & Technology group | Wed Jun 09 1993 12:24 | 5 |
| Many diesels also seem to lack ABS as an option - maybe the extra
weight means its not required :-)
Jc
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2096.5 | | WAYOUT::WAYOUT::LOAT | Ahead groove factor 5! Yeah! | Wed Jun 09 1993 13:25 | 5 |
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A ZX Volcane Turbo Diesel with an auto box was tested by Autocar a while ago and
it got a very good review.
Steve.
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2096.6 | .0 = 2000.6 | WIZZER::WEGG | Some hard boiled eggs and some nuts. | Wed Jun 09 1993 14:17 | 6 |
| re .0>
NOTES> DIR/TITLE probably wasn't much help in finding note 2000,
which is dedicated to the topic of Diesel Automatics :-)
Ian.
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2096.7 | Not a Turbo Automatic | TIMMII::RDAVIES | An expert Amateur | Wed Jun 09 1993 16:03 | 14 |
| Let me set the record straight:
From the current catalogue the ZX is available as diesel as
1.9 NON-Turbo REFLEX AVANTAGE AURA
1.9 NON-Turbo AUTOMATIC REFLEX AVANTAGE AURA
1.9 Turbo AVANTAGE AURA VOLCANE
Hence the no-great-shakes performance of the automatic diesel
They are both 1905cc engines, hence maybe the confusion.
Richard
P.S. The Xantia does not have automatic as an option on either the
normally aspirated or Turbo diesels in the current catalogue.
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2096.8 | 2 Tested | FAILTE::THOMSONS | | Thu Jun 10 1993 09:37 | 6 |
| Auto Express tested a ZX Volcane turbo diesel automatic and a Seat Toledo
turbo diesel automatic a couple of months ago.
Stuart
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2096.9 | The facts come from the manufacturers data | TIMMII::TOMMII::RDAVIES | Amateur Expert | Thu Jun 10 1993 16:20 | 10 |
| This is getting worse!!!! NEITHER of these manufacturers has or has ever had the
combination of Turbo-diesel and Automatic on offer. I should know, I'm following
these closely as possibilities to replace my current lease.
The Citroen does offer an Automatic Normally aspirated diesel, the Seat only
offers an automatic in petrol, and then on only one model, the 2.0 GTi.
Richard
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2096.10 | You can get all the options on one car here... | NZOMIS::FINLAY | Only at work if its raining.... | Fri Aug 13 1993 19:30 | 11 |
| As a field engineer when I worked in Inverness I had a BX diesel
followed by a BX diesel Automatic and then wanted a BX turbo auto, it
was not available so I took the manual version. All were GREAT cars and
I bought the BX auto at the end of its lease and kept it to 90,000
miles.
Now I am in New Zealand all the varients are available, they sell BX
diesels, Turbo, ABS and air-con, the only problem is they take 8 weeks
to arrive!! but worth waiting for.
Richard
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