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I think it looks more like a micra or something....

I prefer the old shape...and I bet the new one isn't as narrow as the old one

:-(

    
    I prefer a Dolomite over a Lexus...

Well, after seeing the new GSI 16V on Top Gear a few weeks ago, I want one.

2 problems.. I have an SR already and I love it 
             Insurance.


Say no more !

    
    	Did anyone see the commercial for the Corsa last night?
    
    I'll let you know how it the 1.4 and the 1.5 TD drive on Monday.
    
    
    	Andy.....It's ugly but pretty....
    

    Is the new Corsa bigger/smaller than the Nova....
    
    
    Xtine

    IMHO  I think the new Corsa is exactly like the Peugeot 205 replacement
    should have looked like. It's good to see a car-maker not just turfing
    out another Euro-box !
    
    In an article in CAR magazine on the Corsa a comparison (however brief)
    was made between the Corsa GSi and 205 GTi... something to do with
    smoothness of drivetrain I think, coming out on the side of the
    Peugeot. The 205 comparison says to me, how Peugeot got things so right
    first time around (and how off-target they are now); and just how good
    the little Vauxhall is.
    
    IMHO
    
    Reargards,
    
    Stephen

>    first time around (and how off-target they are now); and just how good
>    the little Vauxhall is.
    
ah, but have they put in all those things that were "missing" off the Nova ?

Like:

central locking reaching the tailgate
deadlocks
a clock that you can see from the driver's seat
upper door frame that doesn't drip onto the seat when door open & raining
door side impact strengtheners

etc

:-)

re.7:

Can I believe my eyes? Jane being critical of the Nova?

Dave.

    re.7
    
    Janes obviously lost her rose tinted specs...
    
    
    Shaun.

Nope, I've never used rose-tinted specs where the Nova is concerned, I just
don't see why people should get away with saying things about it that are not
true; especially those who have obviously never even driven one !

    
    
    I think the new Corsa looks like the Mazda 121 bubble car with the
    back chopped off....
     

    RE .6:

    > IMHO  I think the new Corsa is exactly like the Peugeot 205 replacement
    > should have looked like. 
    
    What DOES the 205 replacement look like then?
    
    ~sam

    
    	well,I drove the Corsa on saturday,and I must admit I was very
    impressed.The guy took me out for about half an hour,and really enjoyed
    the drive.The car I drove was the 1.4i LS (hi torque 60 ps).
    
    Good points.
     
    Less engine noise in cabin.
    Better road holding.
    Better suspension set up (due to longer wheel base and wider track)
    Better instumentation.
    Windscreen moved forward 7ins (better side and front visability)
    
    Bad points.
    
    More wind noise.
    More tyre rumble.
    Slightly less rear vision.
    
    I must admit that the looks have grown on me,and I think that it's all
    together a very tidy little car.The interesting point about the car is
    that each model of the Corsa is about 1000 pounds cheaper than it's
    corresponding Nova model,and there is an improved optional extra list.
    
    Some prices.
    
    Nova:Merit 1.2i 3dr         8085.00pounds.
    Corsa:Merit 1.2i 3dr        6370.00pounds.
    
    Nova:Merit 1.5TD 3dr        9175.00pounds.
    Corsa:LS 1.5TD 3dr          8060.00pounds.
    
    Nova:SRi 1.4i(82ps)3dr      10030.00pounds.
    Corsa:SRi 1.4i(82ps)3dr      8900.00pounds.  (Very nice car/price)
    
    (This one will interest Jane)
    Nova:GSi 1.6i 3dr           11685.00pounds.
    Corsa:GSi 1.6i 3dr          10975.00pounds.(Available from July 1993)
    
    GSi.You can swap the sc201 Radio/cass for a CD300 Radio/CD with RDS for
    no extra cost.Comes with PAS,ABS,C/L+deadlock,Alloys,Alarm(with
    imobiliser).
    
    When pressed the Guy told me that the price cut was to make them
    competitive.In my opinion it's a bargain,i'm saving now!

What a crap advert on the TV. I wonder how much that cost.
The car looks incredibly ugly, but, like most new cars I
suppose we'll get used to it and maybe one day I might 
like it. It's just a bit too Jap looking.


	Ian

    Re Corsa Advert.
    
    	Seemingly it cost about 1.5-3 Million pounds.
    	They are all top models (female kind that is!) who are doing
    	 the walk on parts - and they cost > 10,000 pounds a day photo shoot. 

re.15:

>It's just a bit too Jap looking.

and what's that supposed to mean?

Dave.

    
   >> They are all top models (female kind that is!) who are doing
   >> the walk on parts - and they cost > 10,000 pounds a day photo shoot. 
    
    Hmph! No Cindy Crawford though so I'm not buying one.

I heard that the "super"-supermodels (eg Naomi Cambell?) were paid
�400,000 to �500,000 EACH for the work, and the whole advert cost
around �3M.

Nice work if you can get it!

mb

    But no Cindy Crawford 8^(

    What complete waste of money !
    
    Surely, most people wouldn't know who these so called super-models were
    anyway. Interesting idea but completed wasted on the vast majority of
    the audience I think, including me to start with, although I suspected they
    were.
    
     I still liked the advert for the face-lifted Uno that was around about
    two years ago. The one that used some music from Yellos 'The Race',
    very catchy, made me want one... for about 5 minutes or the next ad
    came along...
    
    
    
    /paul (1 minute attention span:)

    
    
    The reason that the CORSA does look "Japanese" - (ie looks like all
    the Civic,CRX,MX,121 baby Jap cars) is coz the designer was Japanese!
    
    He previously worked on the MX-5. Mazda obviously knew he was passed
    his sell by date and so let him go!
    
    Richard.

A bit too Jap looking means that it looks a bit too Japanese in styling
for my tastes. Japanese cars tend to date very quickly in comparison with
European styled models. The Corsa looks like it'll date very quickly.


	Ian

    
    Did anyone see the other three short ad's for the Corsa last night?
    
    The narrater told the names of two of the girls (Naomi(we all knew
    that)and I think the other was angela)
    
    The first ad had Naomi cutting the car in half to show how much space
    it had in it.
    
    The second ad had a model saying something about a tree,I suppose to
    make it green.
    
    The third ad had three nutcases banging there heads on the side of the
    car,and commenting on the two side-impact-bars.
    
    		Do they want to sell this car or what!
    Andy.LIke the car,hate the ad's

    Was Cindy Crawford in it ?

    They didn't hold the cut-in-half view for long enough to see 
    anything, imo.  I got the impression that back-seat legroom was no
    better than potentially average...
    
    There's one in the window of Barnes in Wokingham, round the corner from
    my house.  My daughter and I pass it on the way to the sweet-shop.  I
    think it looks nice.
    
    Richard
    

    
    I must admit it's grown on me.Do you know what model is in Barnes?
    I'm looking for an SRi to play with.
    
    	Andy

    I think it's a 1.4 ...err
    
    I'll look tonight.  I'm sure I'll be obliged to take Madam round to the
    shop for a bag of crisps or something.....8*)
    
    Richard
    

    Does she look like this....?
    
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    It's an LS 1.4i.  That's the white one at the front of the showroom. 
    There's also a red one and a sort of candy-apple green one, and a
    couple of murky-looking ones that may have been blue in the shadows
    down the back.
    
    I don't think this shape will date too badly.  Curvy-looking cars tend
    to do better than ones that are all lines and angles, eg Cavalier v
    Sierra.
    
    Richard
    

    
    
    	Has anyone else had the (expensive) mailshot from Vauxhall. Even
    the envelope has got colour photos of the girlies on it!
    	I think the car is beautifull...goes to show doesnt it.
    
    	Graham.
    
    	PS.....the ad doesnt need Cindy Crawford...'cos Naomi Campbell is 
    	in it!

    
    Blasphemy!

No I don't think Cindy Crawford was in it!

    
    Speaking of ad's,has anyone seen the pirelli ad?
    
    	A pretty female gets into a black/blue merc,then after a while
    swaps places with the driver!
    
    Is it Sharon Stone.
    
    I thought it was until I realised that she was neither Naked or
    involved in a gratuitous sex scene.
    
    Any thoughts!
    
    	Andy

    	
    -1
    
    Are you sure,she's got her Kit on!
    
        :-(
    Andy.

    Re:     <<< Note 2058.34 by PEKING::ATKINSA >>>
    
    >>    Any thoughts!
    
    
    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............    Plenty !!!
    
    
    
    Steve. - Yes I am a sexist pig :-)

Well i actually like the look of the new corsa... i know it's the same style
as everything else now, but i like this style...

The advert would obviously make me want to go and buy one... "I'd like the
Naomi model please"... "you mean in leather sir?" ;-)

    Is that really Sharon Stone ?
    
    Is there a convertable model available ? (ie topless).
    
    -Sexist$Piglet

    
    RE-1  
    
    Vauxhall seem very tentative in releasing the Corsa (i.e. just a few
    models now,then 5 door,then the GSi)at this rate if the do decide to do
    a convertable it'll be the year 2000 before anyone finally see's it.
    
    Andy.
    
    P.S. I do beleive BSM are considering buying a load of Corsa's to
    replace to Metro.

    They may be tentative releasing the car, but I'm getting heartily sick
    of the ads.  The Corsa is starting to look like another dull clone to
    me now....
    
    Richard
    

re.41:

Oh dear perhaps you should contact Vauxhall and get them to stop or then again
you could always stop watching/reading them.

Dave.

    My point was that the car's virtues become immaterial when you start to
    become fed up with seeing it on the TV.  You start to look anew at the
    Clio, Peugeot 106 or what have you.  As Rover's marketing director once
    said, if everyone bought cars for purely sensible reasons, they'd all
    buy Maestros....
    
    Richard
    

    
    I've decided to get a Corsa 1.4 SRi.I drove one yesterday and compared
    it to the Clio 1.4 RT and the Corsa came out on top!
    
    Buying privately and will probably be getting it in November.
    Any Corsa drivers out there? Any opinions?
    
    
    Andy.

	If you are buying it new, don't forget to claim the 500 quids worth
	of delivery/tax/numberplates, that was mentioned in the letter with the
	new car scheme details.


	Let us know if they deduct thia after you've haggled, or they try to
	take any haggled discount from the 500.


	Thanks
	Heather

    
    RE-500 quid.
    
    	Heather,
    		I'm going in tonight to discuss it with sales manager.
    
    Thanks anyway.
    
    Andy.

Hi,

I'm interested to know what you thought of the two.

My impression was that the engine feels stronger on the Corsa, but that the
Clio handled better, and felt more refined.

Also, as the Corsa is newer, it looks more fashionable!

Mark.

    
    RE-1
    
    	The first thing that struck me about the CLio was how plasticky the
    car was inside.Don't get me wrong the Corsa's dash is plastic,but it
    seemed to look better and made the car feel worth something.I found the
    clutch action on the Clio a little unfriendly,it was very hard to push
    in and did tend to snap up when you pull away,where as the Corsa's 
    clutch was very light.Both cars seemed to handle equally well,but the
    Clio's engine seemed a little gutless (Single point fuel injection for
    the Clio,Multi point for the Corsa)and it seemed to have no life.The
    Corsa on the other hand seemed alive (but did need to be reved up to
    3000 rpm before it let rip)the Corsa also had a satisfying roar to it.
    
    
    	Corsa 9 out of ten        Clio  6 out of ten.
    
    Only plus on the CLio's side is that it gives you a good level of
    extra's as standard (on the 1.4RT anyway).
    
    Andy.

    
    Collected my Flame red SRi on saturday.The car is a dream.I'd
    previously been driving a 1989 Nova sting which compared to some Nova's
    was excellent,but the Corsa is a complete evolution.The engine and 
    gearbox work together superbly (perhaps a little noisy at about 80mph)
    to give good torque through the gears,and good response from the
    multi-point injection unit.The car handles well and the level of
    extra's and general comforts are superb.
    
    In short i'm a happy puppy.
    
    Andy...   :-)

I've just got my Nova 1.2 club   -  the best thing that's happened to me in a 
long time...the first step to getting rid of the company car tax !!!!!

re .50

Wow, what an exciting life you must lead!

Re: .51

> Wow, what an exciting life you must lead!

since thanks to digital's policy of 0% increases over the last 5 years, and
that my obligatory outgoings considerably exceed my constantly reducing
incomings...

no I don't lead an exciting life...

    On the purchase of my new corsa, I am well impressed with the
    following;  Colour(Rainbow blue)
                Interior 
                Fuel consumption
                Heater
                        

    
    	Re-1
    
    	I agree the heater is smart.The settings go like this.
    
    
    
    
    	1 = gentle breeze.
    	2 = Gust.
    	3 = Gale.
    	4 = Tornado.
    
    Andy.
    
    	;-)

    Well there hasn't been much discussion here for a while.
    
    I'm looking to replace my Cavalier TD early next year and don't want to
    pay any more than I'm currently paying for a lease which is �2600.
    
    As you can guess there isn't much to choose from at this level apart
    from an Astra Merit. 
    
    The Corsa is a little small but considering the impressive list of
    standard gear on the Sport which at �2500 is a much more attractive
    option than an Astra Merit with wind up windows and no central locking.
    
    The 16v 1.4 engine in Sport gives impressive performance with a 0-60
    time of 10 secs.
    
    Anyone got a Corsa Sport or driven one and could share some thoughts
    here.
    
    Royston

    If it were me.... I'd test drive the Corsa, and then pop down to Pooles
    Peugeot dealer in Fareham... Ask to test drive their 106 Rallye
    demonstrator.... Then let the heart decide.
    
    If it has to be a Vauxhall... and you don't need back seats... The 1.4
    Tigra is a far better bet from a handling point of view. (Mind you that
    breaks the 2,600 limit.)
    
    From the Corsas I've driven (though admittedly I've never driven the
    16v 1.4), my overall impression I am left with is that, visually the 
    Corsa promises a lot, but in reality delivers very little.
    
    Just my tuppenth' worth

    Had my Corsa CDX 1.4i 16v 5-door for a week now and done 500 miles, so
    here's some initial comments:
    
    Likes:
    - heated door mirrors
    - 5-door body shape (better than the 3-door)
    - CD/radio - good sound quality - CDR500 from Delco Electronics
    
    Dislikes:
    - gear change 2nd to 3rd - bit hit & miss - guess I'll get used to it
    eventually
    - not much room for left foot - either rests against heater vent and
    roasts, or keep it resting on the clutch!
    - central locking petrol flap - very flimsy with a lot of play -
    wouldn't take much to prise off with a screwdriver - I'll be asking the
    garage if it can be tightened up
    
    Things it ought to have:
    - radio volume control on steering wheel
    - lumbar support on front seats
    
    Overall comments:
    - performance not bad for a 1.4 (I'm used to a Clio 16v 1.8), very
    nippy in traffic - haven't done a decent long run yet (most of the 500
    miles has been motorway driving in fog - oh, yes, the brakes are good!!)
    - a "nice" car - but not what I really wanted - I'd have liked another
    Clio, but the changes to the lease scheme put paid to that.
    
    So not disappointed sums it up!
    Sue