Conference terri::cars_uk

    re .0
    
    	Well, at least the inside lane will get used then ! Most drivers
    seem to think that using this lane is just for looking at.
    
    Terry

    Perhaps they'll try the idea, common in North America, of having one
    lane reserved for "Car Poolers" - the definition is usually 3 or more
    people in a vehicle (although it's 2 or more in Los Angeles, as far as
    I remember).
    
    Obviously this isn't easy to enforce (although the Gatso company will
    no doubt come up with something!) In Boston, they have a purge every now
    and again and nick hundreds of people abusing it. Then it's obeyed for a
    few weeks, then it isn't for another few weeks, then they have another
    purge. 
    
    D.

From the way coaches and buses drive on motorways at 
present, I take it the Bus lane will be the right hand lane
with a 95 mph speed limit!


	Ian

    More gos is the plan to increase the width of the M4 in deference to
    providing local relief roads beside the M4. "Different budgets, you
    see" was the reason given for encouraging local traffic to use a
    widened M4.
    
    The good news is that roads planning is to be privatised in Berkshire.
    To often it seems teams count traffic at problem areas instead of
    taking heed of the complaint mail from drivers who understand the
    problems. Maybe the politics can be removed from roads decisions when
    this happens.
    
    Tony.

    Does anybody know about any plans to but a bus lane over the Caversham
    Bridge. I ask because yesterday when I was travelling through Caversham
    towards the bridge yesterday I saw a partly uncovered bus/cycle lane
    sign just before the traffic lights.
    
    Just curious,
    
    Neil 

    
    Maybe if the local councils spent a little more time in improving the
    quality of the vehicles thenselves, they wouldn't have to sod around
    with digging the roads up.
    
    -Tony (2p's worth)

I recently read in our local "freebie" paper that Birmingham City Council
are going to re-surface the existing bus lanes with GREEN TARMAC, to make
it easier for drivers to spot them!!!

This wasn't the 1st of April edition either. Still, anything to keep those
dirty, smelly, noisy heaps out of my way will be appreciated.

mb

    Those dirty, smelly, noisy heaps are keeping 20-30 dirty, smelly, noisy
    cars apiece out of your way.  Which would you rather have?
    
    Richard

    
    Re .8
    
�    Those dirty, smelly, noisy heaps are keeping 20-30 dirty, smelly, noisy
�    cars apiece out of your way.  Which would you rather have?
     ^^^^
    Err.. Passengers surely? :) 
    
    The trouble is they use those same dirty,smelly, noisy buses for the
    other 16 hours of the day when no one uses them!
    
    Richard.

    If the passengers don't have a bus to go on, they'll go by car.  I'm
    not defending dirtines, smelliness, noisiness or heapness per se,
    although each has its place.  8*)
    
    However, buses (and public transport generally) are a Good Thing.  They
    don't even have to be particularly d/s/n either.  Reading buses are
    currently experimenting with rape seed oil as a fuel, which apparently
    gives a slight chip-shop aroma.  I remember the electric trolley-buses
    in Belfast (about thirty years ago) emitting a subdued mmmmmmmmm (and
    the occasional zap from the overhead lines.  And dirty?  The streets
    are dirty, the buildings are dirty, the cars are dirty, the people are
    dirty (and no, not just because of the buses).  The buses are no
    dirtier than anything else, considering the use they get.
    
    And if more people used them, not just those who haven't an
    alternative, and cared about them, maybe the scum in Westminster who
    have no more of a transport policy than they have of an economic policy
    would have to do something to improve them...
    
    Sorry for ranting....
    
    Richard